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6thGenTexan Aug 04, 2004, 10:48 PM Napoleonic Europe -- C3C v1.22
Team
6thGenTexan
Dwip
-0blivion-
Bede
Opening Thoughts:
We are the Militaristic and Industrious Austrians. Our military consists of Hussars, 6-4-2 Cavalry, and Grenzers, 4-4-1 infantry. From the looks of things, they are both on the weak side. To compensate, we need the Grand Battery, bombard of 12 and rate of fire 2. Unfortunately it is 3 techs away. We can get the first, Nationalism, in 15-20 turns. Our Grenzers require this tech so we start with 14 musketmen.
We start with 12 cities and corruption is an issue. We need a FP and I'm thinking that should go in Cracow. Warsaw would bee a good place ot pop out workers if we can get it to 5 uncorrupted shields per turn. Why workers? We start with 5 but there is a lot of development needed: one more shield in Warsaw, more shields around Cracow or other FP location and 3 unconnected luxuries to trade.
I'm thinking initial builds of courthouses in cities lacking and cannons/Hussars. Once Nationalism arrives, we can build Grenzers. In 40 turns we should be ready for war. The question will be who? Naples has a small front and there are 2 VP Locations in Italy. Prussia is another posibility with 2 VP locations on the border.
Our World:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Austria.JPG
Bede Aug 05, 2004, 12:00 AM Checking in.
Will review later today.
-0blivion- Aug 05, 2004, 04:13 AM Checking in.
I checked this one out last night, and Cracow was my choice for the FP.
A lot of our towns are far too food heavy. Warsaw needs a lot of irrigation changing to mines.
I myself turned Budapest into a 2 turn worker factory, but maybe that city is too worthwhile as a core city producing military.
Take the Nationalism - Advanced Tactics (? - the one that gives Britain/France/Prussia/Russia infantry units) - Artillery Tactics tech route.
Grenzers are pretty crappy. The French cavalry has 8 attack i seem to remember, as does the Prussian, British and Spanish. Sipahi is 6 attack i think. Grecnzers are only 4 defense so cannons are a big priority.
Its really very hard to say who we will attack first now. It all depends on which way AI alliances go. You don't want to be at war with Russia. In my game, on about turn 40, about 30 hussars using an ROP with Prussia swept into France and took 6 cities in 4 turns.
In my game everyone turned on France, so i declared on them and did OK. But in another game, the AI may turn on Prussia, or Spain. It all depends on what happens in alliances between the AI.
Dwip Aug 05, 2004, 12:10 PM Checking in.
Will see about saying productive things later today or so.
Dwip Aug 06, 2004, 02:49 AM Ok. Ponderances. I've played all of about 2 turns of this scenario as the British, for whatever that's worth.
And I'll be repeating stuff that's been said. Sorry. I do that. Polly wanna cracker, already.
We have 96 turns in which to either hit the 40/40 domination limit or 60,000 VPs. VP locations are 25/turn, cities are 100*pop, and units are 5*shield cost. So any way we look at it, that's a lot of warring.
Cracow looks like the spot for the FP.
Too, it looks like beelining for Grenzers and Grand Batteries is the way to be going.
As far as everyone else's units go, It's like this:
France
6/5/1 Voltigeurs with Nationalism. (Which they have)
8/8/1 +1 hp Imperial Guard with Advanced Tactics. (Eep)
8/4/2 Imperial Cavalry
Russia
4/5/1 Jaeger infantry with Nationalism.
6/6/1 +1 hp Guard infantry at Advanced Tactics.
5/2/3 Cossacks
Prussia
4/4/1 Fusiliers with Nationalism.
5/4/2 Cuirassiers
Ottomans
3/4/1 Sekhan with Nationalism.
5/5/1 +1 hp Jannisaries with Advanced Tactics.
5/3/2 Sipahi
Naples
2/4/1 Musketmen
3/5/1 Musket Infantry with Nationalism.
5/2/2 Cavalry
With our lack of an Advanced Tactics unit, there will come a point at which we will need to be wary of Russia, and fairly wary of the Ottos. After nationalism hits, we have a sort of curious situation where we're better off attacking the Prussians and their 4 defense Fusiliers rather than the 5 defense Musket Infantry of Naples. What's more, not only does Prussia have those VP locations that are closer than any of the Neapolitan ones, they have good land close to our own.
Too, France can probably run us over without even breaking a sweat whenever they feel like it, so I'm thinking that we'll need to at least maintain friendly neutrality towards them, likely for the whole game. As to Russia/Ottos, the more they fight each other and leave us out of it, the better. If we eventually decide to take on the Ottos, that works too.
Fighting's a long ways in our future, though. We are, to put it nicely, pathetic. Vienna's pretty good, and our core isn't doing TOO badly, but the rest is...enh. So I like the Budapest worker farm idea. We indeed have too much food, too few shields. Vienna lends itself to Hussars. Courthouses where needed. I can't decide if I'd rather have cannon or muskets elsewhere. Somebody else decide that one.
It would begin to look like we signed up for the hard game. Or the mostly hard game - we COULD be playing the Dutch, after all.
Doc Tsiolkovski Aug 06, 2004, 06:12 AM You forgot the 8.4.2 Imperial Cavarly France already starts with...
Bede Aug 06, 2004, 07:21 AM "The hills are alive with the sound of....shovels
Knowledge is expensive in this scenario!!!
Accordingly we need a horde of Industrious workers to push the gpt output. Some towns start with one, rush others elsewhere, and then set up a couple of worker farms. Keep the citizens working river tiles for the added commerce. I doubt if building self research is worth it, given the length of 96 turns, so it is either buy, steal, or extort it. To do the last we need military, for the second military and money, for the first money, so banks will help at least as much as Hussars.
Definitely a challenge: a small nation surrounded by larger warmongering neighbors.
-0blivion- Aug 06, 2004, 08:10 AM Warsaw and Budapest are both easily capable of being two turn worker farms. Warsaw just needs to become a bit more shield heavy instead of food heavy.
Dwip Aug 06, 2004, 12:41 PM Knew I was forgetting somebody. Edited it in up above. It's what I get for doing that late at night.
As to the tech thing, I haven't quite made up my mind about the tech thing. On the one hand, it's 20ish turns of research at deficit for Nationalism. On the other hand, our entire economy for France's monopoly on it gets us to doubtful. *shrug*
That having been said, I think I'd rather have hussars than banks, but our cardboard cutout army kind of frightens me more than a little. So does the turn limit.
Kiech Aug 06, 2004, 12:54 PM If your plans include a lot of workers, maybe you should grab Code Civil first. Surely you can trade it out for the military techs.
-0blivion- Aug 06, 2004, 01:13 PM England has a monopoly on Naval Tactics on the first turn. Surely our whole economy can get it on the first turn? Then we can maybe trade it out for money, or wait until the other civs get Nationalism, and trade it then?
Bede Aug 07, 2004, 05:46 PM Sword and boots from last Austrian game all polished, horses brushed/braided and have shiny new shoes, uniform retailored and repaired, so
Reporting for duty, Emperor 6thGenTexan, who wants to open the ball?
6thGenTexan Aug 07, 2004, 06:30 PM After reading through the starts of the other games to see some opening diplomacy, I realize that we are in a unique position. We are not a super power (England, France) nor are we isolated (Russia or Spain.) I'm leaning towards holding off of trying to get Nationalism or Naval Tactics and see if the AI will pass them around. Hopefully we can pull a 2fer during the second turn. The key is to accurately track which way the alliances fall so we do not end up caught by the web. If we do anything on the opening, I'd get the Russians and Ottomans on our side to protect our backs.
As to who goes first....I've got a heavy turn in another SG up at the moment so unless someone is chomping at the bit, I'll play the first turns on Sunday night.
Bede Aug 07, 2004, 08:53 PM :dance:
Looking forward to the opening reel.
-0blivion- Aug 09, 2004, 10:08 AM Hello Texan?
If you want someone else to take it, don't hesitate to ask.
6thGenTexan Aug 09, 2004, 01:40 PM This weekend turned out busier than I expected. I be done tonight.
6thGenTexan Aug 09, 2004, 01:41 PM It is January of the year 1800. There is an ill wind blowing across Europe. From the west, the wind carries the massed drums of the mighty French infantry columns. The only break in the drums is the massive cry of thousands of men shouting, “Viva Le Emperor!” The constant rumble of the Napoleon Cannons insures there is not a moment of silence. A mighty cloud of dust kicked up by thousands of hoofs chases the scared, scattered enemy into the ground. Only England can stand against Napoleon, but they are on an island that might as well be on the other side of the world for a battle on land. Their “puppets”, the Dutch, Portuguese, and Naples, will not be able to hold out for long.
Who are we? We are a nation of artisans and musicians. We sit in the middle of the continent controlling the overland trade routes. We are no great military power……..not yet.
I must watch the diplomatic exchanges carefully. I do not want to engage the enemy until we are ready. I will wait a season to see how the cards fall before showing my hand. In the mean time, I must prepare us for war. What to do first you ask? Build a summer palace in the mountains around Cracow. Although Vienna is protected by a river, she is too close to the French border. My military mind must be preserved in cases Napoleon looks our direction before we are ready. Only four cities are capable of producing military now. Vienna will continue to train Hussars while Venice, Budapest and Salzberg build cannons.
May courthouses will be built. The corruption must be curtailed so there is more resources available for our army. And to aid the production of the means of war, we need more workers.
Let the pages of the calendar now turn………
6thGenTexan Aug 10, 2004, 01:26 AM IBT no one talks to us.
Mar,1800-1 The techs have not traded.
IBT Prussia joins Denmark against Portugal. Sweden joins Britain against France.
May, 1800-2 Warsaw worker-->worker
IBT Dutch ask for an alliance against the Danes with RoP....No.
Jul, 1800-3
IBT Russia joins Bitain against Denmark. Russia asks for our TM and 46g. He can have it for now.
Sept, 1800-4 Warsaw worker-->worker Venice cannon-->cannon
IBT The Prussians want and embargo vs. the Portuguese....No. Ottomans and the Russians have signed a MPP.
Nov,1800-5 Vienna Hussar-->Hussar Salzburg cannon-->cannon
IBT Kindy give Britian our TM and 53g.
Jan, 1801-6 Budapest cannon-->cannon
IBT Denmark come offering a RoP for an alliance v the Neopolitans....No. Prussia and Sweden have sighned a MPP. The Neopolitans offer the reverse of Denmark.
Mar, 1801-7 The monopolies have broken. France, England and Prussia hve both Navel Tactics and Nationalism. Russia only has Nationalism. Prussia gets 53GPT and 852g for Naval Tactics. Naval Tactics and 9GPT to Russia for Nationalism. Sell Navel Tactics around the world so everyone can build ships they will not need against us. We gain wines, 37GPT and 1277g. Best sustainable rate for Advanced tactics is 39 turns, way too long for self research. Spend 840g upgrading our Musketmen to Grenzers.
IBT Ottomans and Prussia have formed a MA against Portugal.
May, 1801-8 Vinice cannon-->Grenzer Warsaw worker-->worker
IBT Portugal comes asking for an MPP and RoP...no.
Jul, 1801-9
IBT Two Ottoman Sipahi cross the border. I believe they are heading to Portugal.
Sep, 1801-10 Vienna Hussar-->Hussar Salzburg cannon-->Grenzer Prague courthouse-->Grenzer
I have not asked the Ottomans to remove their units. I have spread our our cannons and Hussars in case someone decided to get adventuresome. We will need to consolidate them in about 10 tursn when we are ready to attack someone. We have the funds to rush the remaining 5 courthouses. FP due in 6. Workers have been mining and building road on worked tiles.
The Game (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/RBC15D-Sep,1801.zip)
Bede Aug 10, 2004, 07:34 AM Nice start, Tex.
Dwip Aug 10, 2004, 11:15 PM Assuming that I'm supposed to be next, can we put me third or last? I won't have time to get it for a day or two, and I'd hate to slow things down.
-0blivion- Aug 11, 2004, 06:19 AM Alright then Dwip. I am available today, so i'll switch with you.
-0blivion- Aug 11, 2004, 04:39 PM Texan, could you repost that as a .sav file?
I am having a real problem opening zips at the moment for some reason...
Bede Aug 11, 2004, 06:56 PM @ -Oblivion-
Try this attachment
-0blivion- Aug 12, 2004, 03:34 AM :goodjob:
Thanks Bede. Dunno what my problem is with zips right now, when i download them they have nothing in them to extract, even though they have a file size.
-0blivion- Aug 12, 2004, 08:27 AM Inherited turn: Sep, 1801 AD
This is a short scenario, so i think we should only play 6 turns from now?
6 turns is a year, and it would be nice to get 2-3 turnsets in on this scenario.
Rush Courthouses in Zagreb, Kosice and Sibiu.
Turn 1: November, 1801 AD
The two Ottoman Sipahis move further into our territory, and another one appears.
I hope they are going to Portugal.
Budapest Cannon-Cannon (4 turn cannons)
Zaghreb Court-Cannon (5 turn cannons)
Kosice Court-Grenzer
Sibiu Court-Grenzer
A mine completes and FP drops from 5 to 4 turns.
Rush the other 2 courthouses.
Turn 2: Jan, 1802 AD
France declares on Russia...
Warsaw worker-worker
Lvov Court-Grenzer
Tarnopol Court-Grenzer
Turn 3: Mar, 1802 AD
Denmark declare on Swedes.
Prussia declare on Denmark.
The Ottomans are definetly going to Portugal.
Turn 4: May, 1802 AD
The Ottomans have 8 Sipahi scattered around Venice, all going to Portugal. A bit annoying, but we still need to build up our lands before we go warring.
Warsaw worker-worker
Venice Grenzer-Grenzer
Hmm. GB, Russia, France, Prussia pick up Espionage. France and Prussia have Advanced tactics as well. I will buy AT and sell for Espionage and money. But i am a bit unsure whether i should buy AT from Prussia or France. Do i fuel the VP leader or do i lock us in a deal with a likely target. In the end, i buy from France.
I ship France 390 gold and 68 gpt for Advanced Tactics.
Advanced tactics to Russia for Espionage and 120 gold.
Advanced Tactics to GB for 49 gpt.
Budapest is size 12 and needs a taxman.
Turn 5: Jul, 1802 AD
Fp completes. Cracow makes 20 spt. Most cities get a couple of corrupted shields knocked off. Income from 113 gpt, to 126 gpt.
Vienna hussar-hussar.
Budapest Cannon-Cannon.
Espionage to Spain for WM and 248 gold.
Spain declares on Portugal.
Turn 6: Sep, 1802 AD
Russians take a Danish city.
Because of the aggression of Spain towards Portugal, GB, Netherlands and KoN declare on Spain. French take Rome.
Still loads of ottoman units all over our southern lands.
Russia, Prussia, France and Spain get Code Civil. That would be really useful.
Budapest for example needs a lot of work.
Give Russia 65 gpt for Code Civil.
Code Civil to GB for 30 gold and 25 gpt.
Spain obviously sold France Code Civil btw, because Spain has all of France's money.
Bede Aug 12, 2004, 07:11 PM Got it. Play tomorrow early.
Workers, Grenzers and Hussars. Watch the six.
Bede Aug 13, 2004, 11:13 AM 0-Sept 1802
With Nationalism we can make use of cops in a few food heavy towns to boost income, so make the swaps needed and pick up three more gpt. Not much but the uncorrupted gold is more useful than tax revenue. Rush a 'duct in Prague to get the population up to working the improved terrain and to help with our unit costs.
There are at least a couple of customers for loans but the best I can do is negative interest rates.
Hussars are 110spt and Grenzers are 70 so I need to focus on getting 22spt or 14spt wherever I can. Some more citizen reassignment and Vienna will do 22spt and Salzburg gets a growth spurt. Salzburg needs worker turns to get really productive though.
Turns out the Turk Sipahi were heading for Naples as the sign an alliance with the Spanish and attack down the boot of Italy. Then the Turks sign up with France against Great Britain.
The French need money and extort 44g and our Territory Map.
1-Nov 1802
Sweden and Spain sign Protection Pact for which the Spaniard paid 1000g, and Sweden uses it to upgrade a bunch of units.
Spain wants an embargo agianst the Portugese. Not right now Carlos.
Sweden declares on the British. The Brits have Seapower now.
Spain declares on the Danes.
2-Jan 1803
Working the land and pushing spt, gpt and fpt.
Ottomans and Spain sign an alliance against the Dutch.
sweden delcares on Portugal.
3-Mar 1803
Lots of the same.
4-May 1803
Even more of the same. Income will hit 100gpt soon.
5-Jul 1803
Seapower monopoly broken, big time. See if I can buy it and take some cash somewhere. It is way expensive still and there really aren't any customers for it.
We have 12 cities and 16 very productive workers. It may be time to shut off the worker farm and get some military out of Warsaw.
Prussia now joins the war against the French. Our opportunity is coming.
6-Sep 1803
All of a sudden everybody in the world has learned Medicine.
THe British are broke and will sell Medicine for a nice discount @80gpt. There is a possibility to use it to acquire Seapower from the French which would be a nice addition to our inventory for trading for Artillery Tactics.
With Prussia and the Ottomans embroiled in warfare in the west I think we will soon have a nice opening to go up against the Prussians.Napolean will pay us for an alliance, or give up tech for a Protection pact.
We can now mobilize our economy for a production boost. Something to consider even in peace time, especially if we think we want to take on the Prussians soon.
Vienna can do Hussars in 5 now and Cracow needs one more citizen to get there. Budapest will make a nice Grenzer producer once the bank finsihes in three. With another citizen and some mining work Salzburg will also make a nice Grenzer trainer. Prague and Zagreb are bang for training Grenzers, and Lvov is getting close. Venice needs a hill mined mined but the Turks have been blocking access.
The short of it is that we have some very productive cities now, so we can really crank out the military and the gold.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/RBC15D_Sep1803_01.jpg
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/RBC15D_Sep1803_02.jpg
6thGenTexan Aug 13, 2004, 11:50 AM It looks like We are closing in on D-Day. I'm still leaning to attacking Prussia first. If they are at war with France, I doubt they will have any numbers to send south. Lets get enough troops to take Konisberg and Frankfort on the same turn and then march on their core. The tricky part is identifying any MPP the Prussians may have and how that may affect our timing.
Dwip-->UP
6tthGen-->on deck
-Oblivion-
Bede
Dwip Aug 13, 2004, 12:14 PM Got it. Will try and play tonight.
Dwip Aug 13, 2004, 10:29 PM [0] September 1803 - Preflight check. We're getting close to the Day, but it's not quite there yet. Few too many underdefended towns (Warsaw), and a couple three too few Hussars for my taste.
Russia will do Medicine for 70gpt + 10g.
Britain will do Medicine for 74gpt.
Prussia (;)) will do Medicine for 72gpt.
Spain will do Medicine for 59gpt + Furs.
France, Russia, and Prussia have Seapower. So it'll be France we get Seapower from. I'm dubious about needing Seapower, and only slightly less so about Medicine, but we may as well.
The only potential MPP cleverness with Prussia at the moment is one with Sweeden, who in turn has one with Spain. Too, Prussia has an MA with Britain vs. France.
Russia has an MPP with the Ottos, of all people.
Quoth the military advisor, "If we teach our cannoniers the basics of Artillery Tactics we will be able to form Grand Batteries -- more bang for the buck, I say!" Yeah. Get right on that.
70gpt+10g to Russia for Medicine.
France will actually give Seapower and all their money happily for Medicine. If they had more, I'd take it, but they don't seem to, so whatever. Take it anyway.
Nobody has Sanitation yet, not that we could get it from them if they did.
I can see a few places to move troops, but I'll give it a turn and see.
(IBT) - Denmark/Russia declare peace, as do France/Russia.
[1] November 1803 - Prague Grenzer->Grenzer. It also gets a mine, dropping it to a Grenzer/4 turns.
[2] January 1804 - Lvov Grenzer->Grenzer. Warsaw Worker->Grenzer. I think Warsaw's worker days are about over. Tarnopol 'duct->Grenzer.
France, Britain, Prussia, Russia, and Spain have Military Logistics. We're a long way off from needing to worry about the General Staff School.
[3] March 1804 - Vienna Hussar->Hussar. Budapest Bank->Grenzer. Salzburg Grenzer->Grenzer.
(IBT) - Denmark/Prussia sign peace. France/Prussia sign peace. Ruh-roh.
[4] May 1804 - Venice Grenzer->Grenzer. Cracow Hussar->Hussar. Move some troops around.
Hrm. At some point, Russia ran over Denmark. No wonder.
(IBT) - Our Wines deal ends. This doesn't appear to be a problem, so I won't renew. It might be nice to get some sort of deal with the Ottos before we attack Prussia, though, because there's a LOT of Ottos kicking around.
[5] July 1804 - I do assorted things.
Russia and Britain have Artillery Tactics. We could trade for this now, or we can think about it for a turn. I'll think about it for a turn.
(IBT) - In news of earth-shattering importance, Portugul and Sweeden sign peace. So do Sweeden and Britain, for that matter.
[6] September 1804 - Well, you losers were happy LAST turn. Budapest riots. Quickly fix everywhere else before they go, too.
Prague Grenzer->Grenzer.
We could use a renewal of that wines deal, I guess. I leave that to my successor to accomplish, along with a couple worker moves.
Too, Spain, Russia, and Britain all have Arty Tactics. If we want to snag that and do a twofer for Military Logistics, now seems to be the time.
Too, we're probably pretty close to the Prussian war. Might be wise to wait for the next round of Hussars, but we're about there. I left a bunch in Warsaw.
6thGenTexan Aug 14, 2004, 01:26 PM I'll play tonight. I'll only play 2 turns to get to the end of 1804 to get our turn counts even. A little bit of tranding and backside covering and Oblivion will have the honor of guiding us into war.
6thGenTexan Aug 15, 2004, 01:32 PM Our military consists of 10 Cannons, 10 Hussars and 25 Grenzers which set us up as average versus the Prussians. We are weak to the superpowers and strong versus the underlings.
Denmark is now in Russian hands and has moved the seat of government to Oslo. Spain has captured Lison rendering Portugal a OCC also. France has capture Milan and Rome while destroying the city in between. They also control the VP in Frankfurt.
Out of Generosity, grant Denmark the knowledge of Medicine for 2 workers, 3GPT and 19g.
We are paying Russia 65GPT for 8 turns and 70GPT for 14 more. They will not be stabbing us in the back any time soon.
We are paying France 68GPT for another 6 turns. Be wary of them when this deal ends.
Offer Carlos IV some fine Austrian furs and 87GPT for the knowledge of Artillery Tactics. I keep our cash for upgrades.
MM every city for max income.
To Sultan Selim of the Ottomans, we offer Artillery Tactics, 12GPT and 173g for Military Logistics, Wines and Dyes.
Sutlan Selim is now Gracious and the rest of the world is Polite. Everyone except King Friedrich Wilhelm II who is cautious, and for good reasons.
300G upgrades all 10 cannons.
Re-adjust workers to compensate for the two new luxuries and we are still +10GPT.
Move remaining workers.
END TURN
IBT Sweden and Britain have signed an Alliance against the Ottoman Empire.
November 1804 Zagreb Bank-->Grand Battery We love the King days break out in several towns.
Move some workers. Starts moving Grand Batteries to the North. GB's in Venice are stuck until we sign a RoP with the Ottomans. They are blocking all but one road out of the town.
Rush Aqueduct in Kosice for 76g.
Most of our land has been developed. Take a look at all the cities to find where the workers need to go.
I'm tempted to change all Grenzers to Hussars, but we want to hold onto what we gain.
IBT Spain and the Ottomans stop fighting the British and her allies. ONLY the locked alliances are at war now.
January 1805 Vienna Hussar-->Hussar Kosice Aqueduct-->Grenzer Lvov Grenzer-->Hussar
France/Russia/Ottomans/Spain now know Sanitation.
Prussia picked up AT.
Move a few workers.
We will be at war in a few more turns. I'd leave the Grand Batteries in Prague to help defend against the attackers from their core. When we have enough, our Hussars can sweep north from Warsaw to Konigsberg and Danzig. If we bring in Russia (after we have Konigsberg's VP), The Prussians may decide Russian holdings in Denmark are easier to attack than our home. Our income is minimal but we have plenty of cash on hand for some rushes if Oblivion does not feel we have enough troops to attack.
The Game (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Franz_II_of_the_Austrians,Jan_1805_AD.SAV)
-0blivion- Aug 15, 2004, 01:51 PM Thanks for the setup Texan.
Should we mobilise now? I feel we have built everything we need except military units by now.
6thGenTexan Aug 15, 2004, 01:55 PM We could build a few more banks, but I do not see the need for them. We are free to mobilize.
-0blivion- Aug 19, 2004, 10:18 AM Sorry about being overdue.
Inherited Turn: Jan 1805 AD
Shuffle some units. Mobilize. Vienna is now Hussar in 3 turns.
I will wait a few turns to hit Prussia, as i believe the number of Hussars in
Warsaw is too low right now.
[IBT]
The French destroy the Dutch.
Turn 1: March, 1805 AD
Not much. Will attack Prussia next turn. Lots of Russian units moving through Prussia
[IBT]
Nothing
Turn 2: May, 1805 AD
Declare on Prussia. Grand Batteries and Grenzers await the assault on Prague.
Hussars and Grenzers move towards Konigsberg.
[IBT]
9 cuirasseurs move next to Prague. 1 cuirasseur attacks Warsaw and dies on our Grenzer. 2 cuirasseurs attack our hussar stack and both die. Our GA kicks off. MM Vienna to 55spt, which is a hussar in 2. Impressive!
Turn 3: Jul, 1805 AD
The Grand batteries go 8 from 8 in Prague. Most Cuirasseurs have a HP off.
Hussars mop up 4 damaged cuirasseurs. Move stack next to Konigsberg.
[IBT]
Ouch. 7 Hussars attack our stack of Hussars and Grenzers by Konigsberg. We kill 4 of them, but lose 2 hussars and a grenzer. More cuirasseurs move next to Prague, but less than last turn.
Turn 4: Sep, 1805 AD
We kill 5 fusiliers in Konigsberg losing 1 hussar. Still Fusiliers left though, and our stack is injured. Not going well there. Grand Batteries go 8 out of 8 again. Kill all 5 Cuirasseurs at Prague. A couple of promotions to elite.
[IBT]
Lose one Hussar, but kill 3 cuirasseurs on defence. Russia declare on Denmark and Spain.
Turn 5: Nov, 1805 AD
Only 2 units by prague this turn, bombarded then destroyed.
I am regrouping a bit here.
[IBT]
Only one cuirasseur attack this turn. The Prussians are gassed, all out of cuirasseurs. We fend it off, and it retreats.
Turn 6: Jan, 1805 AD
Bombard Fusilier by Prague, killed by Hussar. About my 10th elite attack that one, no luck yet.
Notes:
Well, luck didn't go our way at Konigsberg. However, the Prussians are officially gassed for attack units. I have left the next player lots of grand batteries, Grenzers and Hussars in Prague. You can move on Leipzig soon. We are still at Konigsberg, with a lot of hussars covered by a Grenzer, but nearly all are injured.
Bede Aug 19, 2004, 05:44 PM Got it but won't be able to play until Sunday. Can somebody swap?
6thGenTexan Aug 19, 2004, 08:54 PM DWIP--If you can play between now and Sunday take it.
Dwip Aug 19, 2004, 11:15 PM I'll try and get it tomorrow.
Dwip Aug 22, 2004, 01:12 PM I didn't have time to play, so go ahead and take it.
Bede Aug 22, 2004, 08:12 PM 0-Jan 1806
Move some batteries to support the seige of Konigsberg. Want to wait for the move on Leipzig.
Prussian curaissier gallops out of the fog and kills a Grenzer on the road.
Other Prussian cavalry appear at Prague.
Sweden joined an alliance with somebody against somebody else and get a pile of coin. They can spend it with us.
1-Mar 1806
Buy General Education from Ottomans and include an RoP for 55gpt. It's a tech we can't use right now but it helps cover out hind end from a cranky Turk and gets his troops moving across our territory instead of clogging up the roads.
Sell Medicine to the Swedes for 257g, then spend it on Grenzers.
Grand Batteries at Prague perform beautifully making Prussians curaissiers into dog food precursors and two Hussars slice them up and put them in cans.
Move batteries and covering Grenzers and Hussars to start tearing up the countryside at Leipzig.
Move troops at Konigsberg back into forest.
Britain joins Prussia in a trade embargo against us.
Russia joins Britain against the French.
Prussia joins Britain against the French.
The British destroy the Danes.
The Boots and Saddles survivors at Konigsberg go 2 for 1 against Prussia's curaissiers.
2-May 1806
Going to take chance here as I don't want the Prussians to join Russia against us, so I sign an RoP with Alexander and ship him gems.We have an extra source in the south which will hook up shortly.
Then send 70gpt to Britain for Sanitation, then replace the gems with a 25gpt deal with the Ottomans. The net result is we owe everybody except the French and Swedes money or goods.
Pull the wounded hussars back from Konigsberg to heal in our territory and await batteries and Grenzers.
Send batteries, hussars and Grenzers to invest Leipzig and a Prussian iron source.
Send Code Civil to Naples for small change.
3-Jul 1806
Setting up to attack Leipzig and protecting the wounded on the eastern border.
Bombard Leipzig.
4-Sep 1806
Shell Leipzig until the last defender is wounded. Four Hussar attacks capture the city, no losses.
The King of Naples joins with Prussia against us.
Sweden signs a trade embargo with Prussia against us.
Portugal and Ottomans ally against Russia.
5-Nov 1806
Consolidate hold on Leipzig and move on Berlin.
Watch the Spanish and French battle the Russians on our western border. The Spanish are driven from the field, the Russinas and French fight each other to a standstill.
Spain joins France against Britain.
6-Jan 1807
Move forces on Berlin and attempt to seal the border at Leipzig.
Move forces toward Konigsberg.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/RBC15D06.jpg
Dwip Aug 23, 2004, 04:35 PM Got it. See if I can't get it back by tonight.
Dwip Aug 24, 2004, 09:52 PM [0] January 1807 - Familiarization.
(IBT) - Go 2 for 1 versus Prussian cav, with one of ours promoting. Bunch of Prussians get dropped off near Konigsberg.
[1] March 1807 - Move back the wounded, move up some fresh troops, and pretty much regroup.
(IBT) - Prussians do a lot of counterattacking. At Konigsberg it goes not so well - we lose some hussars, they lose relatively little. On the main front, a pair of brave Grenzers holds off 5-6 cav before finally dying.
Ottos sign up with France vs. Britain and Prussia.
Naples declares on the Ottos. The Ottos are presumably very much afraid of the might of Naples' OCC. Portugul declares on said Ottos, as well.
[2] May 1807 - Zot some Prussians, retake our Grand Battery that was captured, and move in on Konigsberg.
(IBT) - In a massive display of tactical cunning, Prussia moves a ship out from Konigsberg and drops a couple of wounded cav a whole two tiles away from the city to attack our SOD there.
In other news, Sweden and Spain stop fighting.
[3] July 1807 - Assorted Prussian cav go to the great glue factory in the sky.
(IBT) - Seems the French aren't exactly happy with Prussia, either.
[4] September 1807 - We start assaulting Berlin, with fairly average results. We win more than we lose, and we don't actually lose any units. So fair, except...
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/rbc15d-Mack.jpg
He immediately runs back to Leipzig to form our first army, to be filled with Hussars next turn.
Switch a few Grenzer producers to Grand Batteries and Hussars.
(IBT) - The French raze Hannover. Prussia, obviously being led by leaders of great skill and ability, does the 1-tile amphibious landing thing again.
Russia and Sweden sign an MPP.
[5] November 1807 - After some hella serious bombardment and Hussar combat, Berlin is ours.
(IBT) - Naples declares on Spain. Ooo. So does Portugul. Sweden declares on Spain.
[6] January 1808 - I decide that this is a good time to hand off, and so I will. The army is ready and waiting, though it needs a bit of healing. We have other assorted troops ready to go for either Stettin or Posen. It ought to be noted that whichever one of them we don't take, the French probably will, unless we're clever.
The Konigsberg attack is stalled - too few cannons, too few Hussars to really make a difference. Might see what we can do about that. There are a bunch of Grand Batteries in Warsaw, but Hussars...dunno.
We have 9395 VPs, France has about 15k.
6thGenTexan Aug 25, 2004, 10:14 PM I've got it.
6thGenTexan Aug 26, 2004, 01:00 AM Jan-1808 I believe we will not be able to keep France from Hamberg so I will press on Stettin and Posen. I kill 2 Fusiliers in Posen and streatch but lose two Grenzers and a Hussar also. I was short 3 hp. I kill 6 Fusiliers in Konigsberg and lose one Hussar. Only 1 hp to go but only have a 1hp Hussar left.
IBT Sweden has joined a trade embargo with Naples against us. Trade horses with the Prussians but they get a leader. Lose our wines and dyes. We have wines from the Prussian land and pas on the dyes from Otto. Berlin loses a resistor and riots. Lepzig, Salzburg and Sibiu liked the dyes.
Mar-1808 Leipzig Grenzer-->Grand Battery Vienna,Budapest,Salzburg Hussar-->Hussar Cracow GB-->GB Kill 3 more Gusiliers in Konigsberg. Our Hussar's fail to do the job at Posen losing 1 and retreating 3 more. The Army arrives to kill two Fusiliers. I find another Hussar in range and he leaves only the 2 1hp defenders left. I send in the Grenzers to take Posen with Barracks, Granary Courthouse and 3g. I start a worker. Kill two Cuirassiers and von Blucher outside of Stettin. It appears we needed those Dyes so I buy them for 530g. Move troops to block road to Stettin from the French. Rush Hussar in Prague for 152g.
IBT The Prussians come asking for peace but since they will not part with a city, the war will continue. They do kill a 1hp Hussar trying to retreat from Konigsberg. Spain joins France against the Prussians. We are infided to build the Military Academy....I forgot about that.
May-1808 another resistor leaves Berlin and completes a worker to start another. Posen loses a reistor and riots. Prague, Venice Hussar-->Hussar Lvov GB-->GB Warsaw GB-->Grenzer Bomb Konigsberg but do not attack. Move troops to take Stettin next turn.
IBT Russia and Spain find peace. The resistance in Posen and Berlin ends. Britain declares on the Russians. Naples follows suit.
Jul-1808 Vienna, Hussar-->Military Academy Cracow GB-->GB Lose one Hussar but capture Stettin with 7 resistors, barrack, granary, courthouse, bank, aqueduct, 3 slaves and 10g. Bomb konigsberg again. Move Army and another Hussar to Hamberg to watch that battle. Rush Hussar in Prague for 304g and in Venice for 324g. Complete GB in Lvov for 108g, Warsaw for 128g and Leipzig for 72g.
IBT The Prussians capture a GB just outside of Warsaw but the Ottomans end up claiming it. France offers to exchange WM's and I see no problem with that. France captures Hamberg. Russians and the Frence stop fighting. Stettin loses 3 resistors and riots.
Sep-1808 Berlin worker-->Grenzer Leipzig, Lvov, Warsaw GB-->GB Budapest, Salzburg, Prague, Venice, Zagreb,Sibiu Hussar-->Hussar Kosice,Tarnopol Grenzer-->Grenzer Usual bombardment of Konigsberg. Move troops to that corner.
IBT Ottomans send their captured GB home, not forward against the Prussians or the Russians. We can now trade with Portugal only to find out the Spanish have destroyed them. Our Golded Age ends. Two resisters leave Stettin. Prussian Trop ship left Konigsberg.
Nov-1808 Cracow GB-->GB Konigsberg now has a Musketman on top. After a fine display of artillery, our Hussars clean up any remaining troops without a loss taking the city with 21g, 4 resisters, Granary, Marketplace, Courthouse, Aqueduct and Bank.
We are blocking the East/West roads north of Stettin to keep the French back.
I have started sending troops to Tarnopol for the second arm to attack Russia. Yes, Russia. Call me what you want, but I do not want a piece of France yet. We sould have the troops to form 3 battle groups. One can back up and take Denmark (with a French RoP and an Alliance after we fill the choke to Copenhagen. The Second will stride East from Konigsberg for Vilnius and Minsk. The Third will leave from Tarnopol for Keiv then south for the ultimate goal of Sevastopol. We have another year to decide anyway(5 game turns). Oblivian has the honor of removing the Prussians from the map and setting up Bede for our next Victim.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Franz_II_of_the_Austrians,_Jan_1809_AD.SAV
Hit spacebar on game screen so caledar changed to 1809. Prussians return their troop ship to drop off the Elite Fusilier and a horseman.
Forgot to take another look at VP but we are about 13000 to France's 17000.
Doc Tsiolkovski Aug 26, 2004, 02:26 AM Denmark is in a locked alliance with France, you cannot get a MA with Napoleon aginst them.
6thGenTexan Aug 29, 2004, 03:13 PM @Doc Denmark is no longer in our game. Russia now occupies that land.
Oblivian-->up
Bede-->on deck
Dwip Sep 01, 2004, 12:22 PM Heloooo out there...
Bede Sep 02, 2004, 12:57 AM -Oblivion- seems to be MIA.
I'll try and pick up and play tomorrow morning
Bede Sep 02, 2004, 09:28 AM Partial set...
Jan 1809
Danzig capture. Prussians are no more. The Riech is united under Austrain rule! During the assault Alvintzy's Army is formed.
Take advantage of the brief interval of peace time production to build Public Schools where it can be done quickly. When finished will remobilize for the Russian war.
Sign a peace treaty with Naples. They are no threat to us but have some gold we can collect for our technology. Sell him Sanitation for 70g
Pay a call of Gustav of Sweden and sell him Sanitation for another 120g.
Swedes call back and want an alliance against Carlos of Spain. No advantage to that methinks.
Britain and the Turk sign a Peace Treaty.
Naples and the Turk sign a Peace Treaty.
The Turk wants an embargo against the Swedes. No thanks.
March 1809
New public schools kick WLTED in the largest towns and the reductionin corruption provides a nice income kicker.
Will finish tonight....
romeothemonk Sep 02, 2004, 11:52 AM oblivion is on vacation until about the 4th of September. I am in a PBEM with him and that is what he told me.
-0blivion- Sep 02, 2004, 02:40 PM Thanks Romeo, back today though. Forgot to post a note here. Shall i slot back in after your set Bede (asked same question over at RW2)?
Bede Sep 02, 2004, 05:54 PM Sounds OK to me. Finishing shortly.
Bede Sep 02, 2004, 07:48 PM 0-Jan 1809
Danzig captured. Prussians are no more. The Riech is united under Austrian rule! During the assault Alvintzy's Army is formed.
Take advantage of the brief interval of peace time production to build Public Schools where it can be done quickly. When finished will remobilize for the Russian war.
Sign a peace treaty with Naples. They are no threat to us but have some gold we can collect for our technology. Sell him Sanitation for 70g
Pay a call of Gustav of Sweden and sell him Sanitation for another 120g.
Swedes call back and want an alliance against Carlos of Spain. No advantage to that methinks.
Britain and the Turk sign a Peace Treaty.
Naples and the Turk sign a Peace Treaty.
The Turk wants an embargo against the Swedes. No thanks.
1-March 1809
New public schools kick WLTED in the largest towns and the reduction in corruption provides a nice income kicker.
Swedes declare on the British.
The trade embargo between Naples and Sweden against us ends.
Naples declares on Sweden.
2-May 1809
Boosting production in the border towns. Getting ready to remobilize.
3-Jul 1809
Sell Seapower to the Swedes for 7gpt and 30g. I'm tempted to ship wines to England but resist the temptation until I can get another harbor up and running.
Russia brings the French against the Ottomans.
4-Sept 1809
We are set to invade Russia north and south. There is one bank left to finish then we can mobilize the economy and declare on Russia. They have units inour territory in the south so a demand to dpart should result in a declaration.
5-Nov 1809
Demand Russians leave and they comply.
There are two Cossacks and an Imperial Guard on the NW border and and four infantry on the SE border.
Put the economy on a war footing.
Pull the troops back from the borders into the border cities.
Spain and Sweden sign a Peace Treaty.
Sweden and Ottomans sign a Peace Treaty.
Sweden declared war on the Ottomans.
6-Jan 1810
Pulling workers back from the borders. The French, allied with the Russians against the Ottomans have a lot of units near Venice and Salzburg, Imperial Cavlary in the vanguard and nineteen Imperail Guards in the Mountains above Venice.
I cancel all our per turn payment deals with the Ottomans to give the nextplayer the maximum flexibility. They still owe us dyes for something but we owe nothing in return.
Rather than facing the Russians and the French I wonder if we could ally with the French against the Ottomans and then declare on the Russians. If we pay the French something for the deal against the Ottomans then the Russians probably could not buy the French against us. There are fewer Ottomans in our territory than Frenchmen right now. Or we could join the French and Russians against the Ottomans and race them to the Ottoman capitol. Then when the Turk is gone declare on the Russians....
We have 6 years left to gain a whole bunch of victory points so buying our way into the Ottoman war then attacking the Russians may be the way to go.
The attacking forces on the Russian border are poised to strike at Vilnius on turn 0.
6thGenTexan Sep 03, 2004, 10:42 PM It does not look like France will turn on Russia for all we can bribe them with. It will take 3 turns to get our armies and the Hussars from the southern force to the hill overlooking Bucharest.
We are only down 3000VP to France now. We need to drive down the Bucharest-Varna-Istanbul highway as fast as we can. Leave Chisinau, Odessa and Sulina for the Russians. Use the Greners in Venice to fortify Zagreb and slow the French down by filling the roads.
36 turns to make up 3230VP.
-0blivion- Sep 04, 2004, 03:32 AM I took a prelimnary look at the save, and France won't go for Russia even for all our money - 319 gpt and 55 gold. So, it is obviously the Ottomans that we need to target. Hopefully we can get there before the French.
The Ottomans have some big cities, some around size 16. That is a lot of VPs.
-0blivion- Sep 09, 2004, 03:31 PM Sorry 'bout these turns. I was taking them slowly at first, then 2 days ago my hard drive failed. This is the first chance i have had to post here, from another computer which is not civworthy. I will hopefully be back in a few days. Obviously i have to reinstall windows, civ, e-mail and other things. Thats once i have a new hard drive. My turns are clearly lost and i regretfully have to ask for a skip.
Could one of you please post a similar message in SGOTM3-Team Oblivion? I only have limited time here.
Dwip Sep 09, 2004, 07:57 PM Yuck. HD failure is nasty. Good luck with it. :|
I think that puts me up, so got it.
Dwip Sep 12, 2004, 03:38 PM [0] Jan 1810 - Well, this is fun. On the one hand, we can attack Russia if we want, and so long as France doesn't backstab us, we're good. On the other hand, we could join up on the Ottos, and even do so without ruining our rep, if only we didn't have a 9 turn dyes deal with said Ottos. Normally, this wouldn't be the end of the world, and we could, say, go invade Sweden, but of course they're paying us money for 17 turns.
Every instinct I have says that going for the Ottos is the better deal for us in the end, but breaking the deal is...ungood, last I checked. Nevertheless, I see nothing good for us in Russia. So I'll get our troops down to Ottoland, and do things that way.
With that in mind, I begin deploying along 6GT's plan. Zagreb is fortified with Venetian troops, and we'll see what we can do about road blocking RSN. Too, everyone else moves out of position and down the road, along with some random troops sitting around in various places. Hopefully we'll be ready by the end of my turns.
End turn.
[1] March 1810 - Konigsberg Rax->Grenzer. Budapest Hussar->Hussar, Zagreb Hussar->Hussar, Warsaw Grenzer->Grenzer.
Lots of troops moved, and the roads are blocked off from the French about as well as I can block them off.
Our mobile forces will be in position in two turns, and the cannons and Grenzers by the end of my turns.
(IBT) - Spain signs up versus the Ottos.
[2] May 1810 - Leipzig Hussar->Hussar.
The blockade now stretches from Venice to Cav is in position. Support units are a ways behind. Can we go next turn? We'll see.
(IBT) - Russia and Naples/Britain sign peace. Ooo. And then they immediately go back to fighting.
[3] July 1810 - Venice Grenzer->Grenzer. Kosice Grenzer->Grenzer. Lvov Grenzer->Grenzer.
Cav is all in position to strike. Do we go without the arty support? The armies at least can reach Belgrade this turn, with the rest of our ~20 Hussars next turn. So, we conduct a little investigation of the city, and...3 Jannisaries, a musket, and 3 batteries. We'll go for it, deal or no deal.
Dial up Selim, and yell at him to remove his forces or declare war enough times so that he actually declares.
Army vs Jannisary - Army -6 HP
Army vs Jannisary - Army -5 HP
And we're off.
(IBT) - And, you know. When your city is under seige, and you've barely got any troops there, the smart thing to do is pull your best guy out of the city to attack a hussar in the open, and die.
[4] Sept 1810 - Konigsberg gets all unhappy and riots, but I fix that. Posen GB->GB, Vienna Military Academy->Army, Salzburg Hussar->Hussar, Prague Hussar->Hussar, Cracow Hussar->Hussar, Sibiu Grenzer->GB.
Incidentally, we're fighting this random little war in the SE with that little army group down there. Few Grenzers, some GBs, couple Hussars. Lots of assorted Otto zotting.
But you really want to hear about Belgrade, so:
Army vs Sekhan - Army -5 HP, and we're up to a conscript Sekhan.
Elite Hussar vs Sekhan - Hussar -3 HP, and another conscript.
Elite Hussar vs Sekhan - Hussar -3 HP, and Belgrade is ours!
Among other things we take 3 workers and 3 GBs.
[5] Nov 1810 - Danzig Grenzer->Grenzer, Warsaw Grenzer->Grenzer, Tarnopol GB->GB.
Lots of resting and healing going on.
(IBT) - Britain and the Ottos embargo against us. And I dunno where the Russians are, but our SE forces aren't strong enough to be fighting all the Ottos in the world like they're doing.
[6] Jan 1811 - Berlin Hussar->Hussar, Budapest Hussar->Hussar, Venice Grenzer->Grenzer, Zagreb Hussar->Hussar.
Cash rush the army building in Vienna because I can.
And we start marching on Orsovo.
On the one hand, the first army takes -10 HP while killing the Janissary defender there. On the other hand, they're very suddenly out of Jannisaries. The next army goes up against a vet Sekhan, drops it to 1 hp without taking a scratch, then proceeds to lose five straight rounds of combat with it before killing it. The next round does pretty much the same thing. WTH.
And another Vet Sekhan showing. A couple more vets retreat against it, then another kills it, and Orsovo is ours!
And then I move up some more troops, and there's the turn.
So far, so good in the South and West. We've blocked off the French fairly well, and we're making gains on the Ottos. As a quick note, we have a rax in Belgrade, but not in Orsovo, so I'm sending the armies back to Belgrade to heal. Also, the main force of arty and
In the East, it's shaky. While we have way more troops than we really need in the South, we have almost none in the East - 2 Grenzers, 4 GBs, and a Hussar are currently holding off the Otto field armies. So I've been sending any newly produced Hussars over there to help out. It might be worth forming another Hussar army out of the new army, and sending it over there to help.
Meanwhile, here is a very large map (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/RBC15d_1810.jpg) of the current situation.
The magenta line in the west is our worker hordes holding off some slightly more threatening hordes of French military units. They're starting to trickle a few around the top, but nothing major as of yet.
The light blue circles in the south are our armies. The dark blue circle is all of our unattached Hussars - 17 of them. There are also a few more in each city, plus some Grenzers. The purple circle is our arty support, to the tune of 23 GBs and a couple Grenzers. The red circle in the east is our little force holding off the Ottos - 2 Grenzers, 4 GBs versus 2 wounded Jans and 2 wounded Sekhans, with another Sek and Jan nearby. Haven't seen the Russians do much in a while.
Thinking over battle plans, I think what we might want to do is just keep the armies running down through Bucharest and Varna, backed by a few Hussars. Maybe send the new army down there to get filled with Hussars, and in any case, cash rush another army in a couple of turns and send it down there.
Meanwhile, the support troops and most of those hussars can go deal with Otto Greece. At the very least, deal with Sofia and meet up for the seige of Istanbul.
As to the East, either send the new army over there, run most of our new production troops over there, or both. Eventually, we'll want to start taking those Otto cities - I'm pretty sure the Russians aren't in any position to do anything about it, so if we're quick about it, we can probably snag some or all of them.
In any case, we are now at 19390 VPs versus France's 19730 VPs. We have exactly 30 turns left in the scenario.
Roster:
6thGenTexan - UP
Bede - On deck
-0blivion- Out with HD problems
Dwip - Sacking Orsovo
6thGenTexan Sep 12, 2004, 10:05 PM Well done Gerneral Dwip! Drink a toast to me as I continue onward towards Istanbul.
6thGenTexan Sep 17, 2004, 10:10 AM I send the extra Grenzer from Budapest to a border town. I exchange a GB on the wall with another worker. I send a Hussar from Danzig to the East Front.
IBT France and Sewden sign a peace treaty. Russians beat the Ottomans in their battles.
March 1811 Vienna Army-->Army Kosice Grenzer-->Grenzer Lvov Grenzer-->Hussar Kill a Janissary in the East. Move Hussars to attack Bucharest. Heal Armies. Send three Elites to join our Army. Salzburg starts a Great Fast to Complete the General Staff School in 5 turns.
IBT Naples and England sign peace treaties with Sweden. Lose a Grenzer near Chisinau and Kosice. One Hussar retreats near Bucharest.
May 1811 Leipzig, Prague,Cracow Hussar-->Hussar Sibiu GB-->GB Hussar promotes on the Janissary near Kosice. I lose 11hp from the Army attacking a Janissary in Bucharest. I'll have to wait for the Artillery.
IBT I lose a Grenzer which adds 4 GB to the defense of Chisinau. Our Prussian Territories decide to riot.
Jul 1811 A lot ot towns keep building. Rush another Army in Vienna. Pick up 2 slaves moving towards Sofia killing 3 Janissaries. After bombardment, move in on Bucharest.
Vet Hussar dies dropping Janissary to 1hp.
Army receives no damage removing a Janissary but is out of movement.
2nd Army loses 6hp defeating his Janissaary.
VH retreats 1-3
VH wins 4-1
VH retreats 1-3
VH dies 1-4
VH dies 1-4
VH dies 1-4
VH dies 0-4
VH dies 1-4
VH promotes with 2-0 win.
VH dies 0-4
That is one crappy streak of bad luck. 5 Hussars die doing 4 hp of damage. Move bulk of GB to Bucharest with 5 more Janissaries on the horizon. Raise taxes to help apease the north.
IBT Lose a Hussar and second retreats. Kill a Janissary. Naples declares on Russia.
Sep 1811 Defeat a Sekhan to regain one of our GB near Chisinau. Redline all defenders in Bucharest.
VG promotes on a Sekhan.
3H defeats Janissary.
3H promotes on Janissary.
3H dies.
VH defeats Janissary
VH dies.
8hp Army kills three Janissaries losing 1hp.
12hp Army kill the last defender to take Bucharest and one GB and a Barrack.
The Army picks off two Janissaries heading to Orsovo. Three more Janissaries fall near Orsovo promoting 2 Grenzers.
IBT Naples joins the Ottomans in an embargo against us. Kill a Janissary and retreat a Sipahi. Spain stops trying to take Gibralter. Naples joins that peace treaty.
Nov 1811 Kill the Sipahi. Move troops and heal.
IBT trade a GB and a Hussar for a Janissary.
Jan 1812 General Staff School completes. Fill all 4 armies. First army takes out two defenders in Varna. Second Army takes care of the other two to capture Varna w/o a barrack. Three Hussars are needed to kill the two defenders in Chisinau. I did not come with a barrack but it did have our 4 GBs, 6 Ottoman and one Russian slave. Kill another Janissary outside the city.
Three armies between Bucharest and Varna need to heal (-12hp,-8hp,-7hp). The bulk of our GB are over here in and about Varna.
The troops in and around Chisinau should head to Sulina next. The Russians moved a lot of troops to the fog next to Odessa. It may fall to them IBT.
I have another army with 5 Hussars and 3GB north of Sofia. They can take the town on the way to Istanbul or pick it up on the return trip.
We have the cash to rush the next army now but we are running low on lose Hussars.
We have passed France in VP 25465 to 20660.
The Game (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/RBC15d_Jan_1812AD.SAV)
Bede Sep 18, 2004, 05:17 PM I'l play it tomorow if -Oblivion- doesn't pick it up...
-0blivion- Sep 18, 2004, 05:22 PM Woops, i'm up :confused:
OK, i got this one.
-0blivion- Sep 20, 2004, 03:08 PM Update on these turns: 4 turns in, have taken Sofia and Sulina, Istanbul under heavy bombardment.
-0blivion- Sep 21, 2004, 02:34 PM Inherited Turn: Jan, 1812 AD
I like the worker wall. Familirising myself.
Hit enter.
[I] The Russians take Oddessa. Lots of Guards move down from Kiev towards Ottoman territory.
Turn 1: Mar, 1812 AD
Kill 3 Janissaries with Armies.
Moving troops.
[I] Lose one isolated Hussar, takes 3 Janissaries out of Istanbul though. Ottoman horseman comes out of Sulina and suicides on a Grenzer :lol:
Turn 2: May, 1812 AD
Take Sofia with 5 hussars and an army.
[I] Russian units kill a couple of Janissaries.
Turn 3: Jul, 1812 AD
Take Sulina before the Russians. Area around there blocked off so Ottomans cannot take any more Ottoman cities.
[I] Ottomans sign peace with Sweden. Russians an French sign MPP. Get the twenty turns to go warning.
Turn 4: Sep, 1812 AD
Mack and Alvintzy kill 6 sekhan in Istanbul. Lots more Janissaries though.
Rush army. Kill Janissary outside Sofia.
Moving troops near Istanbul.
[I] Russians and Ottomans kill one unit of each other. French get round to destroying Neapolitans.
Turn 5: Nov, 1812 AD
8 Janissarys and 4 sekhan later, and the Ottomans still hold Istanbul.
[I] 5 Janissaries move out of Istanbul. Thanks, that will make this a whole lot easier!
Turn 6: Jan, 1812 AD
3 Sekhan and 2 Janissaries more and we take Istabul. Mop up four of the five Janissaries outside the city.
I misplace a Grenzer and a hussar moving to the front. Doh!
Three armies are in Istabul, two of the very beat up. Luckily, Istanbul has a barracks.
VP is at 31535. France are 22350.
Bede Sep 21, 2004, 03:26 PM Got it......
Bede Sep 21, 2004, 05:30 PM RBC15D
Start by picking off exposed crippled Janissarie for another 45pts. Only 632 Janissaries to go.....
Looks like the next target is Thessalonika then on to Athens.
Spain joins France against Britain.
Mar 1813
Manuevering to enter Greece at Thessalonika: Hussar army, elite hussars, batteries and Grenzers.
Spanish troopships show up in the straits and land their cavalry in east of Istanbul.
Wounded Ottomans take on Russians in the mountains near Thessaly and win.
Russians come looking for RoP. Turn them down.
May 1813
Mishandle the assault on Mostar and get a badly beat up Hussar army.
Force the mountains pass into Thessaly.
Janissaries destroy the army at Mostar and a Hussar in the mountain passes.
Jul 1813
Quiet midsummer. Chain the batteries and armies through the passes of Thessaly, killing Janissaries on the way.
Sep 1813
Thessalonika falls after mighty bombardment. No losses but armies are hurt a little.
French are making me nervous with Imperial Guards massing on the borders to Venice.
Napolean is broke and antsy so I pay him 100gpt for a World Map and hope greed overcomes his belligerence.
Nov 1813
Setting up for Athens and healing armies at Thessalonika.
Jan 1814
Cross into the Greece proper heading for Athens: two healthy armies, lots of batteries and some elite hussars.
Russians bypass the land blockade with troop transports.
Rush an army out of Vienna.
The March on Athens
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Dwip Sep 21, 2004, 11:53 PM [0] Jan 1814 - Well, here I am, beating up on some more Ottos. But at least I'm not trying to take Istanbul (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2201293&postcount=64) again.
Also, I don't think I can make up 25k VPs in 12 turns, but I'll try.
[1] March 1814 - Leipzig Hussar->Hussar. Vienna Army->Army. Istanbul Worker->Grenzer.
We take Mostar with little fanfare. And then we move on Athens with probably more GBs than we really needed.
And I'm sort of dying to know where the Ottos got Musket Infantry.
(IBT) - Ottos and Russia sign peace. Russia MPPs with Spain.
[2] May 1814 - Budapest Hussar->Hussar. Zagreb Grenzer->Grenzer. Tarnopol GB->GB. Belgrade Grenzer->Grenzer. Rush the army in Vienna. Finish moving on Athens.
(IBT) - Ottos and Spain sign peace.
[3] July 1814 - Vienna Army->Army. Prague Hussar->Hussar. Venice Grenzer->Grenzer. Kosice Grenzer->Grenzer. Lvov Hussar->Hussar. Sibiu Grenzer->Grenzer.
We kill some guys. And really, we don't have quite enough GBs to bomb Athens down to 1hp guys, but then we miss a lot, too, so whatever. In any case, we kill a lot of Ottos. Because as good as Sekhans thought they were, no.
[4] Sept 1814 - Berlin Hussar->Hussar, Salzburg Hussar->Hussar, Cracow Hussar->Hussar, Sofia Rax->Walls. Rush the Army in Vienna.
This random 1hp conscript Musketman in Skopje somehow kills our 7hp Army, only to die to a random Grenzer. My RNG luck today just sucks. We take the city anyway. Also, we take Athens.
[5] Nov 1814 - Vienna Army->Army. Zagreb Grenzer->Grenzer. Warsaw Grenzer->Grenzer.
We kill some Ottos with armies, because that's we do around here.
[6] Jan 1815 - Leipzig Hussar->Hussar, Danzig Grenzer->Grenzer, Posen GB->GB, Budapest Hussar->Hussar, Prague Hussar->Hussar, Venice Grenzer->Grenzer, Sibiu Grenzer->Grenzer.
And then, just to be all different, we killed some Ottos.
39975 VPs.
6thGenTexan Sep 22, 2004, 04:46 PM I've got it.
6thGenTexan Sep 25, 2004, 05:00 PM January 1815 Six turns left so this will be the end. Complete teh fall of the Ottomans and join as many workers as I can to increase our population. Raise the Lux tax to 30% to lose a few more clowns.
March 1815 Max population of Konigsberg. Move 3 Armies to Angora.
IBT British Navy approaches Athens.
May 1815 Ask the British to leave.
Attack Angora:
18hp Army v Vet Janissary loses 10hp killing him.
16hp Army only loses 6 v a Vet Hanissary.
12hpArmy defeats the third losing 6hp but captures the town and two GB's.
Pick off two more Janissaries outside the town and move in hurting Armies.
Sulina increased by one, Belgrade gets two immigrants and Cracow gets one.
IBT
July 1815 One Army is enough to take Afyan losing 3hp killing 3 Vet Hanissaries.
Tarnapol adds a worker. Kosice is now at 12. Cracow is now at 12, also. Belgrade and Orsovo increase by one.
IBT The British drop a Lifeguard and 2 Household Cavalires near Istanbul.
Sep 1815 I demand they leave and they do. 16hp Army takes on Smyrna killing 2 and dropping to 5hp. Next Army arrives to kill a third and is now at 13hp. Kill another Janissary outside toe town. Other Armies cannot reach Smyrna this turn.
Eight slaves join Varna. Two join Mostar and Zagreb. Four immigrants arrive in Belgrade. Skopje, Thessalonika and Sofia each get one.
Nov 1815 Two Janisarries and 2 Sekhans are not enough for the Ottomans to survive to the end of the game.
Happiness breaks out across our land. Stettin and Athens swapped to temple ot lose the last clowns.
Boot the British troops again. Boot out the Russians, also.
Rush Aqueduct in Chisinau for more immigrants.
Mostar adds two immigrants. Sulina gets five. Belgrade gets 2 more. Skopje adds four. Bucharest gets one.
End Turn and hit return a few more times for builds and the game is now over.
VP 44620 to France 26785
Land 25% to Russia 21%
Population 20% to Russia 27%
Final Save (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Franz_Jan_1815AD--END.SAV)
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