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aar0nak
Nov 17, 2001, 12:15 PM
This file (a scenario) contains the Arabia and Israel civs. Can someone tell me if there is a way to put these civs in a game w/o using a scenario?

Old version deleted after 100 downloads.

An updated version is available (see 5th post in this thread):

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=113594

Dimy
Nov 17, 2001, 01:16 PM
First back up the civ3mod.bic in your civ3 directory, then open it in the editor... now you can change the names of the civilizations and save it. When you start a new random game you will be able to play with the civilizations as you named them.

Dimitry
http://www.netrexgp.nl/civ3/

aar0nak
Nov 18, 2001, 04:48 PM
I mean, can you put them on the net without that other space-taking information found in a scenario?

Dimy
Nov 18, 2001, 04:52 PM
no, i'm afraid not.... all information is in the .bic file, including the civs.

Dimy

aar0nak
Nov 24, 2001, 09:47 AM
I have made a revised version of the arab israeli civs. I changed the israelis special unit.

G-Man
Dec 13, 2001, 05:34 PM
What was our Special unit before? What is it now? I guess at least one of them is:
Merkava I/II/III, Lavi, Kfir, Arava, Matkal soldier or the Hetz. Was I right? :D

Sh3kel
Dec 16, 2001, 07:00 PM
You honestly beleive yesh lo musag who the Matkal are?

G-Man
Dec 17, 2001, 03:36 PM
A lot of the guys in the OT know a lot about them.

axe-man
Dec 28, 2001, 07:50 AM
I think the Arab and israeli civilizations should be revised,

I mean the game is about long term civilizations so the modernist approch (ie: adopting the 50's incarnations of the civilizations) just won't do.

Make the Israeli civilization into the ancient Hebronic one, and the Arab civilization to the muslim one of the middle ages (ie: each one at its zenith, Omayyad arabs, and Solomanic Jews).

G-Man
Dec 29, 2001, 11:10 AM
What's the difference? It would still be a one-era civ. The hebrews existed only in the ancinet times. Modern Israel existed in the end of the industrious age and the modern age, so it's an era an a half, and therefore longer in civ-years.

axe-man
Dec 30, 2001, 08:26 AM
Modern israel is a state not a civilization.

It may speak its own language but it is part of a greater western european civilization. With things such as classical music, the eurovision song contest, and generally speaking the very life styles of the people, one maybe not be able to tell the different between tel aviv and a western european mediteranian city if one hid the hebrew signs. Besides its only 50 years old.

Ancient (Solomanic) israel is was a civilization, by the very defintion of the word. That was the zenith of Hebrew culture, that was the time, when the greatest Hebrew wonder, the great temple of Jerusalem still stood (I think). So why not?

Modern Israeli and Modern Arab civilizations would be more suited to Civ 2 style scenario's.

G-Man
Dec 30, 2001, 08:35 AM
Isreali culture is very different then european culture in a lot of ways. The Israeli has elements of every culture because people came here from all around the world. This creates a uniqe culture that's not like anywhere else.
Also, Israel has it's own history, it's own heroes and anything other civilizations have.,

PS
Solomon built the first temple. But his leadership wasn't very good - he made the people angry about the monarchs and when he died his kingdom splited in half and all the areas he conquered were lost.

Sh3kel
Dec 30, 2001, 09:46 AM
Solomon was THE leader, but his underlings were a group of greedy morons!
Think of it as the Israeli version of the fall of the Greek Empire after Alexander.

axe-man
Jan 01, 2002, 12:57 AM
G-Man: Modern israel is within the american cultural orbit (it is westernised, globalised, and has mc donalds), true its Arab (christian and muslim), Ethiopian Jewish and Arab Jewish (the ones that fled the arab countries in the late fourties, and early 50's) provide a nice mix, but the rulers are as european as Classical Music. And ideas such as zionist socialism, and the like are european ideas, coming from the tradition of Marx and other great jewish political thinkers.

G-Man
Jan 01, 2002, 01:50 PM
Israeli culture is VERY different then the American or european one. I've been to europe a few times and Israel is something completely different.

axe-man
Jan 02, 2002, 06:09 AM
All miderteranian countries are the same.

roalan
Jan 02, 2002, 03:48 PM
what is this civ3mod.bic? The only file I see is civ3mod with NO extension under WME. Is this the same file as the .bic one?

Sirotnikov
Jan 04, 2002, 11:37 AM
axe-man, either stop trolling or get a clue.

I've seen you post in several threads with mods regarding Israel. Your knowledge is unfounded and very very wrong.

You have blurry general ideas about Israel which are far from the truth, so I suggest you stop spreading them around.

axe-man
Jan 06, 2002, 07:07 AM
bah proove me wrong.

roalan
Jan 17, 2002, 04:46 PM
The proof is in your own words

roalan
Jan 17, 2002, 04:49 PM
I know where to put the civ3mod.bic but where do you put the other files i.e. armor etc.in the mod ?