View Full Version : New Units from Summer (August 25, 2004)
utahjazz7 Aug 25, 2004, 10:01 PM First of all, I need to publicly thank Kinboat for his help. First of all, I switched to his newest set-up. Secondly, he modelled some props for me. Without him, I wouldn't have been able to work on these models this summer. I would also like to thank ripptide, who helped me tweak some of the render settings in Poser5. LouLong posted a picture for me; thank you. I think there was someone else too, but I can't emember right now.
So, now on to the units. These are units, the models for whom I made and animated while I was on vacation this summer. Two of them were requests by TopGun and Zulu. One other I saw in a magazine over the summer. The last, the Frank Axe Thrower, is a remake of an earlier unit that I wasn't happy with. However, I needed to arrive home before I could make CivIII units out the renderings. I have four units completed, and I have three or four models already completed; I just need to animate and render them.
I made these units' models on a mac. When I transfered the renderings to the PC, they looked a little big, and a little dark. That may be the result of the monitor I was looking at, but I'm not sure. Hopefully the units will be acceptable. You may want to play with the sounds a little bit. I just linked some sounds to the standard CivIII sounds, and some animations are not linked to sounds.
If there are any problems, fix 'em. ;) Then post the corrected files. Thanks. :)
Aluminium's improved, resized units with better sounds
Thank you very much Aluminium!
Polynesian Spearman (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Alu__U7_PolynesianSpearman.zip)
Native American Rifleman (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Alu__U7_NativeRifleman.zip)
Frank Axe Thrower (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Alu__U7_FrankAxeThrower.zip)
Koori Crocodile Warrior (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Alu__U7_CrocodileWarrior.zip)
original files
Frank Axe Thrower (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Frank_Axe_Thrower.zip)
Koori Crocodile Warrior (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Crocodile_Warrior.zip)
Native American Rifleman (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Native_Rifleman.zip)
Polynesian Spearman (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Polynesian_Spearman.zip)
bombshoo Aug 25, 2004, 10:06 PM Wow! 4 excellent units! I especially like the crocodile warrior..Is it historically accurate? I wasn't aware the aboriginies wore armor or costumes like that...
utahjazz7 Aug 25, 2004, 10:08 PM Wow! 4 excellent units! I especially like the crocodile warrior..Is it historically accurate? I wasn't aware the aboriginies wore armor or costumes like that...
No, I don't think that it is accurate. TopGun drew a picture, Kinboat made a crocodile head, and I finished the unit. ;) It's kind of a fun unit though.
Dease Aug 25, 2004, 10:16 PM I think there was a request for a mounted unit with a croc head, the one from the croc warrior would work great for it IMO
Anyway great units! :D :goodjob:
Goldflash Aug 25, 2004, 10:17 PM Sweet Home Alabama! Thoes are TOPPICUS NOTCHICUS!
Gogf Aug 25, 2004, 10:23 PM Awesome new units! I've got to find something to do with them.
TopGun Aug 25, 2004, 10:40 PM Wow, Utah.... great work there! :) You sure were busy over the summer. Thanks for making the Crocodile Warrior, the first unit for the Koori (a.k.a. Australian Aborigines). He's awesome and so are the other threee units. Thanks again, for giving us four great units to add to our mods. :goodjob:
ocedius Aug 25, 2004, 10:58 PM Holy CRAP!!!! :eek: Wow! Wow! Wow! ... Oh wait Wow! 4-in-1. Christmas came early. Wow! :eek:
Midnight Piper Aug 26, 2004, 12:27 AM Wonderful. Lots of flavor here. I might end up putting the French back in my game just to justify the use of that Frank; the Native American immediately takes the place of my previous NA Rifleman; and that Croc Warrior is headed for Africa to take the place of the Zulu Archer (not historical but waay better than the color-adjusted unit I'm using now)...
Redking Aug 26, 2004, 12:58 AM Your best work yet, Utah. Really top rate.
I actually thought of your old Frankish unit as your best.
Any chance you'll give the SlavicHorseman this new treatment?
- Redking
Rob (R8XFT) Aug 26, 2004, 01:22 AM Thanks, Utahjazz7 - they're all great :goodjob: !
My favourite out of these is the Polynesian spearman, who'll I'll get in my personal mod immediately!
zulu9812 Aug 26, 2004, 02:25 AM Many, many thanks - glad to see that you sorted the 'puter problems. :goodjob:
Supa Aug 26, 2004, 02:44 AM They're great. Thanks utahjazz :)
Steph Aug 26, 2004, 04:16 AM Nice ones! Do you also plan to finish the horse lancer you previewed some time ago?
BeBro Aug 26, 2004, 04:56 AM A lot of great units here :goodjob:
Olixas Aug 26, 2004, 05:14 AM WOW, 4 nice flavor units…
Many thanks to you (& Kinboat)
I love so much the native rifleman. He will be an excellet adition for many people, Thanks again.
Arne Aug 26, 2004, 07:01 AM They are great! Thank you. :)
utahjazz7 Aug 26, 2004, 07:23 AM Nice ones! Do you also plan to finish the horse lancer you previewed some time ago?
Yes, I do plan on finishing the lancer. I don't want to, but I'll do it. Still, it'll be in the next pack. I'm also doing a Russian Pikeman and another Native American Rifleman that could be used for Western mods.
LouLong Aug 26, 2004, 07:52 AM Nice ! (especially the Frank of course) !
Nah, feels great to be in the "thank you list" but my contribution is (by far) the smallest of all ... lol
utahjazz7 Aug 26, 2004, 08:42 AM I'm wondering how these units look on a PC. Are they okay? Do the civ-colors work okay?
DoubleT Aug 26, 2004, 09:25 AM Thanx, nice misc units :)
Dease Aug 26, 2004, 11:11 AM I'm wondering how these units look on a PC. Are they okay? Do the civ-colors work okay?
first off, there is a minor error in the axe thrower .ini, the fidget is missing a .flc at the end ;)
Here's an ingame preview, some are maybe a touch too big but IMO the firaxian units are too small. Civcolours work great! :goodjob:
Dom Pedro II Aug 26, 2004, 11:40 AM Awesome! I was wondering if you were going to finish these... beautiful job on all of them! :goodjob:
utahjazz7 Aug 26, 2004, 11:58 AM first off, there is a minor error in the axe thrower .ini, the fidget is missing a .flc at the end ;)
Here's an ingame preview, some are maybe a touch too big but IMO the firaxian units are too small. Civcolours work great! :goodjob:
Thanks for the feed back, Dease. Since I don't have CivIII installed anymore, I wasn't sure how the units would look in the actual game. They seem to be good though. But, looking at the in-game preview, I think that they are a bit too big. I think though, if I remember correctly, the units that shipped with Conquests seemed to be a little bigger than the original Firaxian units--especially the Enkido Warrior. If it's too much of a problem, I'm sure someone will shrink them with the SBB. Thanks again for the screenshot!
Redking Aug 26, 2004, 12:13 PM I'm wondering how these units look on a PC. Are they okay? Do the civ-colors work okay?
They look very clean. Other than the size, they fit in very nicely with the Firaxis and Kinboat units. Everyone seems to be making units a bit larger, Firaxis included.
- Redking
Dom Pedro II Aug 26, 2004, 12:32 PM I think I'll be bumping the Iroquois Rifleman utahjazz originally made to a Musketman position and slide this guy in at the Rifleman level.
The Polynesian Spearman will, obviously, be a spearman replacement... and I don't really have any particular use for the other two in the Age of Man mod, but perhaps the Croc can be used as a Med. Infantry replacement for the Polynesians...
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 26, 2004, 02:45 PM I didn't think today would be a good day to go onto Civfanatics...then you and DPII unleash another wave of new units and BAM!!
I honestly have to thankyou for all of these...Topgun must be happy! At least one unit based off his art is now a reality..Thankyou Utahjazz!
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 26, 2004, 02:47 PM I think I'll be bumping the Iroquois Rifleman utahjazz originally made to a Musketman position and slide this guy in at the Rifleman level.
The Polynesian Spearman will, obviously, be a spearman replacement... and I don't really have any particular use for the other two in the Age of Man mod, but perhaps the Croc can be used as a Med. Infantry replacement for the Polynesians...
My to-do list includes a Polynesian Swordsman(based on Kal-els drawing) and a Polynesian Med.Infantry.....I'm going to try poser TODAY(I tired of waiting to try it)....we shall she what I'll be able to do with it.
Ozymandias Aug 26, 2004, 02:48 PM "Welcome back my friend to the show that never ends ..." :)
Hopefully the rest of your summer was as fine as these units you've produced!
Abraxas,
Oz
tjedge1 Aug 26, 2004, 04:53 PM Nice work Utah. Any chance these have been resized yet or is it going to be done. They aren't too big so I can live if they aren't resized.
Aluminium Aug 26, 2004, 10:10 PM What a comeback! The crocoman is coolest. :thumbsup: :goodjob:
No idea Aug 27, 2004, 12:50 AM Sword of Geddon, you should base the polyniesian units on Maori warriors, they were polyiesian and were very good fighters in wars like the New Zealand wars in the 1860s against the british.
Plotinus Aug 27, 2004, 06:39 AM Wow, a remake of the Frank! I've been using him and I like him anyway (although I have no icons for him, which is annoying). Thanks for the update. How open are you to requests at the moment...?
Rhye Aug 27, 2004, 07:52 PM utah, is the lancer or the alternative poleslinger the next one?
utahjazz7 Aug 27, 2004, 09:46 PM utah, is the lancer or the alternative poleslinger the next one?
I have the default, fortify, and attack animations for the lancer animated. After I do the death and run animations, I will begin to render them. I have everything rendered for the more western looking Native American Rifleman. I have a model "done" for a Russian Pikeman, but I might want to tweak it a little bit; I'm not totally happy with it. I'm also playing around with one more model, but I'm not sure that I can make it happen.
Anyway, because I have to transfer files between my mac and pc, I prefer to do multiple units at once. That way, I only have to do one transfer session. So, it might be a week-and-a-half or so before all the units are done. The lancer will definately be with the next group though.
The modified Pole Slinger will more than likely not happen. The problem is that I don't know where the files are for that unit, so it wouldn't as simple to just making a couple of changes. I would have to redo everything, and I don't really want to.
Rhye Aug 28, 2004, 05:35 AM The modified Pole Slinger will more than likely not happen. The problem is that I don't know where the files are for that unit, so it wouldn't as simple to just making a couple of changes. I would have to redo everything, and I don't really want to.
Oh please! I don't need it right now, let's say I need it (and the lancer) for mid-late september, after the 22th.
By that day, please try to do it!
Rhye Aug 28, 2004, 05:40 AM I'll ask you another thing, in case you want. Why don't you try to improve your cataphract. It's quite old and you could improve the detail and the size (it seems quite smaller than the knight)
Kinboat Aug 28, 2004, 09:59 AM All great units :D
Xen Aug 28, 2004, 10:02 AM SUPERB!
I love them quite a bit :D Just the right blend detail and lack thereof to mix with the standard civ units
Xen Aug 28, 2004, 10:05 AM that said, I will be honest with you; they are a bit big, scaleing them down just abit to make them civ sized could improve thier over-all effect quite a bit, even if they are supurb as it is, what seperates them from perfection of the art is only a thin line really
Sword_Of_Geddon Aug 28, 2004, 12:27 PM Sword of Geddon, you should base the polyniesian units on Maori warriors, they were polyiesian and were very good fighters in wars like the New Zealand wars in the 1860s against the british.
Theres an idea...I want to try making Kal-El's Swordsman into a unit first, but Polynesia is underepresented, so I will definitely be focusing on them.
didaskalia7 Aug 30, 2004, 02:38 PM The FrankAx is awesome ! In he goes ! :D :D
Sword_Of_Geddon Sep 05, 2004, 05:39 PM Just to let everyone know, the Civilipedia Images(Large and Small) for these units DO NOT show up in game. This is probably due to the fact that they aren't 256 colors(which Civ uses). If someone would correct this problem, or point out how we all could do it ourselves, they'd be doing us all, and Utahjazz a great favor.
Supa Sep 05, 2004, 05:56 PM Load them in a paint program, reduce the number of colors to 254, add 2 more colors (last in most program, first in psp) to make 256 and here you go.
Sword_Of_Geddon Sep 05, 2004, 07:42 PM I tried that in Paint Shop Pro 8....(Increase/Decrease Color Depth) it still wouldn't showup in game for some reason...help! :cry:
utahjazz7 Sep 05, 2004, 09:46 PM Hmm . . . I did apply a 256 color palette to them, so I don't know what the problem would be, but I'm sorry that they don't work.
Sword_Of_Geddon Sep 05, 2004, 11:45 PM I'm not sure...They should work, I've tried fixing them myself again (with Paint Shop Pro) and they don't work. Do they show up for you in game Utahjazz?
utahjazz7 Sep 06, 2004, 10:42 AM Well, I actually don't have any custom units in my game. I just reinstalled CivIII this last week. I hadn't actually played for probably six months or more. I'm just making units for . . . well, no real reason other than I like it.
Dom Pedro II Sep 06, 2004, 11:42 AM Well, I actually don't have any custom units in my game. I just reinstalled CivIII this last week. I hadn't actually played for probably six months or more. I'm just making units for . . . well, no real reason other than I like it.
I know the feeling... :rolleyes:
I haven't played a full game of Civ in over a year....
W.i.n.t.e.r Sep 06, 2004, 12:31 PM that said, I will be honest with you; they are a bit big, scaleing them down just abit to make them civ sized could improve thier over-all effect quite a bit, even if they are supurb as it is, what seperates them from perfection of the art is only a thin line really
Hey, for once I agree with Xen ;)
utahjazz7 Sep 06, 2004, 12:53 PM Hey, for once I agree with Xen ;)
Aluminium said that he would resize them at some point, so check back later. I'm not sure when though.
Sword_Of_Geddon Sep 06, 2004, 04:03 PM I discovered that It was my fault it wouldn't show up in game... :lol: I mispelled the unit when I added it. Its fixed and looks great in game.. :goodjob:
By the way Utahjazz...I wanted to get into unit making...but I have Poser One(and that is incompatable with everything out these days, seeing as it came out TEN years ago), and so I can't proceed with my plans to do the Polynesian Swordsman(That was Kal-el's final concept art drawing he did before leaving for the Navy)..seeing as you have done two Polynesian units already(The Spearman and Warrior), could you do the Swordsman in the future?
Aluminium Sep 06, 2004, 05:29 PM Aluminium said that he would resize them at some point, so check back later. I'm not sure when though.
The Crocodile Warrior and the Frankish Axe Thrower are done and game-tested. But not the Pedia-Icons :rolleyes:. I will make the two others tomorrow.
utahjazz7 Sep 06, 2004, 09:41 PM The Crocodile Warrior and the Frankish Axe Thrower are done and game-tested. But not the Pedia-Icons :rolleyes:. I will make the two others tomorrow.
Oh, wonderful, Aluminium! Thank you again, very much. The pediaicons are okay, I think. So, that shouldn't be a problem.
Sword_Of_Geddon Sep 06, 2004, 11:20 PM I discovered that It was my fault it wouldn't show up in game... :lol: I mispelled the unit when I added it. Its fixed and looks great in game.. :goodjob:
By the way Utahjazz...I wanted to get into unit making...but I have Poser One(and that is incompatable with everything out these days, seeing as it came out TEN years ago), and so I can't proceed with my plans to do the Polynesian Swordsman(That was Kal-el's final concept art drawing he did before leaving for the Navy)..seeing as you have done two Polynesian units already(The Spearman and Warrior), could you do the Swordsman in the future?
:goodjob: :goodjob:
utahjazz7 Sep 08, 2004, 08:45 PM Aluminium has finished the resizing. The files are here and in the first post.
Thank you, Aluminium! I greatly appreciate your help.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Alu__U7_PolynesianSpearman.zip
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Alu__U7_NativeRifleman.zip
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Alu__U7_FrankAxeThrower.zip
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Alu__U7_CrocodileWarrior.zip
Dom Pedro II Sep 08, 2004, 09:05 PM I too would like to thank Aluminium for myself and on behalf of everyone else! :)
He has saved us time and effort and thanking him is the least we can do... :D
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