View Full Version : Term 2 - Presidential Office: Back to Prime Time Chats!


Chieftess
Aug 30, 2004, 10:28 PM
Presidential Office - Term 1 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=95537)

The turnchat schedule is in the turnchat listing in the main forum.

President - Chieftess
Vice President - DaveShack

Epimethius
Aug 31, 2004, 07:09 PM
Finally, chats I can attend.

*goes out and buys more alcohol*

Congratulations, CT. Hopefully your term will be more organized and successful than the last.

Black_Hole
Aug 31, 2004, 07:54 PM
Finally, chats I can attend.

*goes out and buys more alcohol*

Congratulations, CT. Hopefully your term will be more organized and successful than the last.
i wouldnt say the last term was unorganized and unsuccessful, but exactly the opposite. i didnt mind the turnchats because everybody should be able to make 1/3 of them

DaveShack
Sep 02, 2004, 08:53 AM
Madame President,

I would like to point out another reason the Iroquois might have fortified within our borders -- to discourage us from moving a settler that direction. I wonder if the other two units in the area could be a settler and escort?

For the settler in the area of the cattle to the south, I recommend moving the escort first. If that reveals a settler about to plant, then build our town in place (not at 8E as instructed) to get there first.

Chieftess
Sep 02, 2004, 07:15 PM
Madame President,

I would like to point out another reason the Iroquois might have fortified within our borders -- to discourage us from moving a settler that direction. I wonder if the other two units in the area could be a settler and escort?

For the settler in the area of the cattle to the south, I recommend moving the escort first. If that reveals a settler about to plant, then build our town in place (not at 8E as instructed) to get there first.

The AI isn't that smart. Besides, the Iroquois have declared war on us, like I thought they would. Immo defended well, and I promoted the garrison in the city for their valiant defense!

JackA
Sep 02, 2004, 07:35 PM
All Hail to CT the New President.I hope we teach the Iroquois do not mess with Japanatica!

ravensfire
Sep 03, 2004, 12:59 PM
Madame President,

Will you be providing a summary of the turn chats? If so, when may we expect them?

-- Ravensfire

Cyc
Sep 04, 2004, 10:44 AM
Our Sunday Turn Chat start time has been moved up an hour?

Chieftess
Sep 04, 2004, 12:03 PM
It was a typo. No conspiracy here.

blackheart
Sep 04, 2004, 02:12 PM
It was a typo. No conspiracy here.

It's those darn Abstainians that are doing this! :crazyeye:

Cyc
Sep 04, 2004, 03:51 PM
It was a typo. No conspiracy here.

I think you need help. Ms. President. How could you have reckoned a conspiracy out of that? You're getting as paranoid as eyrei... :rolleyes: ;)

I don't find this even mildly amusing, even if you intended it as a joke. The next time you make a statement like this you will be banned from the demogame for an entire term. Eyrei.

Sir Donald III
Sep 13, 2004, 11:34 AM
Madame President, I have to ask, why are we clearing the Jungles near Fanatikku? We can get better production out of mining the 3 hills nearby than clearing Jungles at this point. We probably won't need such a square until the Industrial Era.

Also, I have heard reports that some of these trees may be of a type of springy substance, which some use in their military training. What if these may have a use in the future beyond recreation and dummy swords?

(OOC: i.e. Will we still get Rubber if we chop these Jungles down?)

Provolution
Sep 13, 2004, 11:37 AM
I would preserve the Jungle since we do not need it. I cannot understand that CT is cutting down our little resort :) Go for the hills.

Sir Donald III
Sep 13, 2004, 12:01 PM
Well, what she is doing, she has done. But let's preserve the other Jungle Squares. Please?

Cyc
Sep 13, 2004, 12:27 PM
Well, what she is doing, she has done. But let's preserve the other Jungle Squares. Please?

I have to disagree with you, SD3. As you can see, CT plans on having this Worker tied up for at least 12 more turns, clearing Jungle on a city that has 6 excess food right now. She keeps complaining about how we don't have enough workers, yet she'll clear a Jungle when it is obviously a bad move. We should stop now, and build a mine on the hill next to the city. As I said, we have 6 extra food right now, so let's double the shield output of the hill tile while only having the Worker work half the time?

The Jungle clearing is comparable to the 3 Workers we had building a road on a mountain tile no city will ever use (see red arrow), even though we could have built the road on a hill tile right next to it that a city could use.

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Workerprob2.jpg

We need better Worker allocation from this administration.

Provolution
Sep 13, 2004, 12:30 PM
I agree with Cyc here, leave that jungle and build that mine.
CT has made a strong profile on her micromanagement skills, which certainly is better than mine, yet here I think CT did an obvious miscalculation.

Cyc, we disagree sometimes on city locations, but your micromanagement inputs I find excellent :)

Cyc
Sep 13, 2004, 12:32 PM
@ SD3 - And if a tile is going to have a resource, it will appear, even if a Jungle or Forest has been cleared. ;)

Thank you, Provolution. I admire your work also.

ravensfire
Sep 13, 2004, 02:24 PM
Madame President,

The Judiciary has declared the office of the Minister of Culture vacant. Subsequently, the Minister of Culture posted their resignation. Although a formality, please appoint the deputy, who has already provided us with useful information, to the office on a permanent basis.

Thanks!
-- Ravensfire

Chieftess
Sep 13, 2004, 04:44 PM
I would preserve the Jungle since we do not need it. I cannot understand that CT is cutting down our little resort :) Go for the hills.

ok, ok!! I'll spare your little resort! Just don't give me any more Mure's! ;)

@SDIII - Resources appear on their base terrain, so it'll still appear even if a jungle, say, turns into a desert.

Provolution
Sep 13, 2004, 04:49 PM
Honorable Queen :)

I am not going for a new Mure, I go for Roman Iron and Ironport.

CivGeneral
Sep 18, 2004, 02:06 PM
President Chieftess,

I would like to request that the Turn Chat Instruction thread to be posted within imediately or 2 days after the last turnchat.

Thanks,
CivGeneral

MOTH
Sep 18, 2004, 02:09 PM
Just a friendly reminder that a TCIT is needed.

Chieftess
Sep 18, 2004, 02:18 PM
Ok, ok. ;)

I thought I had posted one, but forgot about it...

Sir Donald III
Sep 19, 2004, 12:46 AM
Your Majesty, If I may approach!

As per the recently ratified Code of Law O(1) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2103800&postcount=2), I am providing you with recommendations for Interim Governors for the Future Provinces should Cyc's Proposal be ratified. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=100066)

My Recommendations are TimBentley, MOTH, and Invy. All three are not presently Officers or Deputies, (sorry Regentman,) and have contributed in varying degrees to this term:

TimBentley has proven to be an keen micromanager, advising Governor Zarn of Zarnia three times (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=98719) on the placement of Laborers. I feel that his talents can be put to great use in a Province of his own, and proudly give him my full backing. As he is the namer of Bentropolis, it is only fitting that he be appointed the Interim Governor of the Northlands, a land of great growth possibilities.

MOTH has posted a few recommendations recently, including a possible Temple Rush in Bentropilos instead of Pete (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=100068). Besides which, MOTH has actively requested (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2192104&postcount=46) for the Interim Governorship of the Southern Province.

Invy has recently posted recommendations (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2181607&postcount=62) in the Governor's thread. I needed a third option, so Invy gets it. Ironically, three of the six towns mentioned in the referenced post are in the Eastern Province, so that completes the table.

In Sum:
TimBentley = North, Full Backing
MOTH = South
Invy = East

I thank Her Majesty, and await her decision upon the completion of the Border Ratification Poll.

invy
Sep 19, 2004, 06:32 AM
Thanks for proposal.
I'm still new to the idea of the demogame and its legal procedurs but i would like to take more part than a regular citizen. I'm looking forward to any position in goverment of japanatica and will try to do my best.

MOTH
Sep 19, 2004, 09:28 AM
Madame president:
The are two workers currently expected to build a road NW of regent town. Upon completion of this I suggest that roads be built on each of the unroaded cows by spliting the workers into individual work parties (move then road is 4 turns each instead of 6 turns total).

The reasoning is that regent town will grow to size 6 in 4 turns, so extra irrigation/food is not needed until we can build a aquaduct.

The above orders take us 5 turns to complete. I suggest that we then start mining the cow to the north (3 turns) and then to the sw of Regent Town (3 more turns) which should get one more shield after corruption.

This takes 11 turns of worker actions which should get us to the next TC. If the chat extends then I recommend going back and irrigating the plain on which the workers current are building a road.

TimBentley
Sep 19, 2004, 09:15 PM
JackA has requested to be the deputy of my province that I haven't come up with a name for yet. I don't have to be insured of his competency very much since he wouldn't have a very important position (hopefully I won't be absent), but I still think I can trust his competency.

While I'm here, it would be nice to connect Bentropolis to the rest of the empire, making its citizens happier and reducing corruption, as well as connecting those horses near the city. I have a feeling you would have done this soon anyways, but I still thought I'd request it.

Chieftess
Sep 19, 2004, 09:34 PM
Yes, the workers will be headed that way next turnchat.

MOTH
Sep 20, 2004, 05:13 PM
Honorable Queen,
I beg the attention of a few moments of your time. First, I wish to thank you for my appoint as interim governor of the southern province.

Second, I like to bring to your attention this poll. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=100242) .

Third, I'd just like to comment that I've seen your note regarding Courthouses and I am taking into consideration.

invy
Sep 21, 2004, 02:02 PM
This is what i posted in Eastern province thread. Since President and Domestic are in control of workers this is my humble :) suggestion:

3 workers near Shorin-Ryu to mine and road hills Shorin-Ryu is using. Then irrigate plain north of Shorin-Ryu.
Effect: +4shields, +2 commerce in Shorin-Ryu

1 worker south of Shorin-Ryu (currently mining desert) to be immediately moved to irrigate tile SE of Shorin-Ryu. That tile should be used by Corrino to increase its growth rate. Then clear the forest 2 tiles south of Shorin-Ryu.
**(Corrino doesn't have free tiles/food to grow and that must be dealt immediately. After we clear the forest , grassland tile should be irrigated).
Effect: +2 food, +1 commerce for Corrino and space for its growth.

3 worker mining desert near Odawara to be immediately moved to roaded hill near En'Gha/R'yleh. Mine and road 3 hills En'Gha/Ry'leh is currently using.
Effect: +6 shields, +2 commerce in En'Gha/R'yleh.

MOTH
Sep 23, 2004, 08:41 AM
Queen Chieftess,
I have a few requests:
1. Could you please be so kind as to appoint Ginger-Ale as the Interim Deputy Governor for Hairando province as he has shown interest (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=100458)

2. The honorable Chief Justice has declared the Military Minister position vacant in this post (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2203982&postcount=85) and requested that you elevate Deputy Minister Civanator to the postion of Minister.

3. Thank You for posting the TCIT for Sunday's TC. I will ask my soon to be deputy to post in there soon. At the minimum, I will post there before I leave for a wedding.

invy
Sep 23, 2004, 05:07 PM
Great President,
Mayor Cyc asked about Worker allocations near Shorin-Ryu and I would also like to ask about your plans with those workers.
This is partial copy of my post to mayor Cyc in Eastern province thread:

'I don't understand why 3 workers are not mining second hill. Instructions were clear - MINE HILLS. I also told to STOP IMMEDIATELY mining deserts but i see that desert was mined despite instructions. I don't know why Chieftess is doing that. Mined desert is 0-2-1 and mined hill is 1-3-1.
There are 5 workers near Shorin-Ryu. There should be 4, only 1 is in place (on plains, to irrigate tile for Corrino city) and 3 are on desert :/??? and 5th is Immo worker. I thought Governor Zarn will use that Worker in Zarnia, I don't know what is he doing in Edo. We DON'T NEED to mine deserts yet.'

The plan was to mine hills to increase shield output of Shorin-Ryu (our military producing city) so we can free forest tile to Zojoji. Zojoji can't irrigate grassland until that forest is removed.
Therefore i would like to ask you to continue with this plan next turnchat, but if you have some other plans it would be good to inform governors.

I also posted about laborer switch in Odawara but it wasn't done. I know its hard to follow all instructions correctly but please try :) to have this in mind for next turnchat.

Chieftess
Sep 23, 2004, 07:08 PM
Right now, there's Babylonian troops with settlers in the region. I'm not very trusting that Civ3 AI Spears and warriors escorting settlers will walk by our workers (I've seen a warrior/settler escort where the warrior attacked my city once - and lost). Not to mention the fact that those settlers and other troops were walking right through that area. It was a high traffic area last turnchat.

To sum it up... it's dangerous in that area right now.

Cyc
Sep 24, 2004, 01:57 AM
But if you stopped the Chat immediately after the Babs declared war, why would you consider any of those units attacking 3 turns prior to it? I guess I just don't understand. Spears that belong to peaceful AI walking through our lands escorting Settlers are not normally considered dangerous attack units.

Chieftess
Sep 24, 2004, 05:18 AM
I've seen spears take units. Never underestimate AI stupidity.

invy
Sep 24, 2004, 06:38 AM
OK Chieftess. I just wanted to know what happened. Tho I agree with Cyc that Babs wouldn't attack Workers, it was very unlikely.
We can clear now those Bab units so there shouldn't be other problems with Worker tasks.

ali
Sep 27, 2004, 05:22 AM
hello id like to bring some debates to the attention of the governemt and follow ciztxens which can be found on http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=2209808#post2209808
please come and discuss

Chieftess
Sep 27, 2004, 05:27 AM
Ali, I've seen your citizen group, and it does not have my full support. Perhaps it's your wording there... (Nationalists? Shadow advisors?).

ali
Sep 27, 2004, 06:28 AM
Patroism never hurt anybody, if there are any problems about the group please feel free to be more direct on the groups page, so i may address your concerns and clear up any misconceptions or problems, i dont want to step on any1s toes, thats fine mate, its up to you who u upport after all its democracy :)
regards ali

ravensfire
Sep 28, 2004, 09:29 AM
During his term, President DaveShack kept a nice central post updated with links to TCIT threads, saves and chatlogs. While searching for some recent information, I noticed that you have not been updating this thread. Please consider updating this thread and maintain in during this, and your next term.

-- Ravensfire

blackheart
Sep 28, 2004, 02:50 PM
Patroism never hurt anybody, if there are any problems about the group please feel free to be more direct on the groups page, so i may address your concerns and clear up any misconceptions or problems, i dont want to step on any1s toes, thats fine mate, its up to you who u upport after all its democracy :)
regards ali

Tell that to all the French who were behead during the Revolution.