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But we all are buying a major asset here. In this community, a 1-2 year game commitment is a very large asset. Do you think it should be treated any differently? This game is set up to be a large-scale Civ event. Do you agree that erring on the side of caution is prudent?

If your friend wants to sell you his car, will you take his word for it that it runs just fine? Signing up for a 1-2 year game commitment is closer to buying an expensive car that's been used for a few years than taking a small trip in it. Exercising caution is in order.

Sommers, you have no knowledge of what happens a year from now, and saying that RB players will drop off is a very lofty statement. Moreover, I believe (Spanish team and Apolyton, correct me if I'm wrong) that their stances are "prefer full espionage but can live with CSM banned". Whereas RB...

Sommerswerd, straw poll lets us find out where there are common grounds. It seems there is no risk of reaching common grounds about espionage easily, so your comments about RB calling for votes on tactical grounds is uncalled for. You said you don't want to let RB have their way on everything...

Suggesting that RB is demanding that they have it their way on everything is not a fair or accurate statement to make. Already darrel volunteered on behalf of RB earlier that leaving espionage on is probably not a problem. How about going with DNK's proposal and doing some straw polls to find...

My point exactly 2metraninja, rules were put in place to prevent collusion concerning city gifting. Coastal blockades are also commonly banned. This is beside the point, though. What definition of OP do you use in your argument Sommerswerd? It seems we might see the term differently.

By collusion, I'm comparing it with gifting your MoM city to another player and giving them a 50% bonus on their GAs. Or Gifting Pyramids to allow civic changes. Would you consider either of those practices acceptable? Has it been done in past games? And have "friendly" revolts been done in past...

Ozzy, note that War Elephants are commonly banned because they're a superior choice and have adverse effects on gameplay. So your sarcastic analogy actually does have merit. Sommerswerd, is it reasonable to ask players to rely on collusion in order to defend against overpowered tactics...

I'm just a lowly RB lurker, so don't rely on anything I say. But how about creating a thread specifically for discussing settings once all/enough teams have been recruited? Then let one spokesperson for each team post in that thread, for sake of overview. I also think that mzprox made a...

Many apologies, but I'll have to skip and possibly sit out. Things are rough at home at the moment, and I'm having a hard time focusing on gaming. Whoever is next, please continue from the last position and disregard my report above.

Makes sense, thanks!

Could we maybe be allowed to consult the mapeditor during the game as well? Not much difference between that and taking extensive notes about the map. Or did I misread the rule and this is already allowed?

What's the reason we're only allowed to look at the map pre-game? Do you want to stress the memorization part of it? Are we allowed to make any notes about the map? Game setup looks great, started playing already!

Yeah, I'll go with the medium. We definitely need better targetting, our fighters are missing way too much.

I messed up in the report above, I decided on Construction instead of Weapons. So Ion Cannon is not an option. I'm a strong fan of NPG though, and I think Ion Cannon takes a fair bit more space. But good thinking, I didn't even consider that. There's also the option of medium with nuclear...

Trying to decide between these three designs for our newly invented stabilizers: Leaning towards the destroyer. It'll be defense 9 with the alkari bonus, still plenty to dodge almost anything. Only way to put battle computers on a fighter is to use nuclear engines, and we need the speed...

I just bought Civ4 for $15 (with WL and BTS) and realized with equal parts disappointment and excitement that it already does pretty much everything I want to do with this mod. So I'm probably running off to the Civ4 section :)

Delayed again :( I'll play tomorrow, promise!

I'd say it depends entirely on terrain. You get hardly any bonuses from Monarchy apart from lifting the terrain restrictions: 1) +3 support per city instead of +1 per size (mostly useless) 2) Lesser corruption (useless) 3) 70% max sci instead of 60% (marginally useful) 4) +1 trade when...

Thank you for the criticism Ali :) I'll try to make a better report next time, was making up my system as I went along. Sorry for including my score!