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The OP is correct though, the Warmonger penalty is arbitrary and broken. I have two examples that completed negate the quote text: 1) England declares war on me. The war doesn't leave my land. I kill 2-3 of the english units. No cities trade hands. No discussions for peace have taken place yet...

I completely agree here. It has been something I've often mused on with the Civ series, and VI seems to highlight it more than ever: the AI has no "memory." It can't remember why you are friends, why you are enemies, threats given or received, actions that went well, or did not, why it's at war...

I'm going to throw in with Gorbles and the other here who are saying that the original post citing "a programmers perspective" is all fine and all, bbut it also highlights how little the programmer in question understands the software development life cycle of a project like this. I also work...

Unless there are mitigating circumstances (such as another war that needs my troops) I always finish them off and it's doubtful that they'll put enough on the table to make me let them go. I reason that if the cities are mine, their income, science etc etc are now all mine as well; balance that...

Let me just stop you right there. People learning the game. Casual players. People working their way up in the difficulty scale. People that haven't played previous civs and haven't studied the guides/how-yos/tips/play-like-this-guides "Brianless." Really? That's what you are going with?

England declared war on me (I wasn't doing anything, I wasn't in their turf, they just declared), a few turns of fighting go by, odds start to shift in my direction, but no cities exchange hands yet, India denounces ME for being a warmonger. England declared on me. India says I'm the...

I'm hoping I'm not bumping an old thread here, but I noticed this comment and wanted to point out the Empire: Total War that has been out for a couple of years. It is based in the 18th Century (1700-1799), spans the world (including India, Middle East, Americas, Spanish Main, etc), introduces...

Thanks Sisiutil; I have just got back into CivIV after purchasing Warlords and Beyond the Sword and I've been really struggling. All of my beginner mistakes from earlier Civilization games (over expansion, etc) have been haunting me and I needed a guide like this to get me back on the straight...

I meant Porto :) As for the Vacation ... it was great ... really recharged my batteries, loved hanging out with the family for the first time in 2 years, and generally did me a lot of good, thansk for asking :)

It'll also make it impossible to find the answer when it's buried in 30 different threads.

I couldn't agree more. I said earlier "inevitable" and you say "reality" ... it's not exactly something that fills me with joy, but - yes - sadly it just seems to be the modern way of things.

I like the game and I've also had zero problems (just the usual bugs) ... but I am concerned with the attitude of the gaming industry and on this point, Take2 is a good example. "It's not ready, but we want the cash so releas eit now and we'll worry about it later."

So - without being antagonistic - would you say that we (the gaming commnity) are now paying for beta testing?

I've had some success here. Typically I only ask for it if I'm being attacked, so I can try and deflect my oppositions attention across multiple fronts. Once I had 2 killer stacks heading my way, so I got two friendly nations on the other side of my attacker to declare and the next turn both...

I don't like the way you say World map like that .... :edges out of the room:

I'd love to see him start again ... thus far I'm inclined to believe that anything under the Take2 umbrella is likely to be substandard.

Heh, I guess it is ... I missed it!

I truly considered writing (read: snailmail) to Sid himself; I can be somewhat literate and felt that I could make a good case for 'the consumer'. At the end of the day, though, my comment regarding "inevitable" is more of a resigned realization that any form of complaint is only likely to make...

Anyone heard from WillowMound recently?