Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors
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Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors
March - August 1939
The British response to the German annexation of the Czech Republic was almost immediate. On the 30th July they offered Poland - the obvious target of Germanys future expansion plans - an offer to join their alliance, which was accepted. It was a clear statement that if Germany was to mess with Poland, they would see an Allied response.
Emperor Kan had foreseen this, of course. For the past year he had been developing good relations with Spain, Italy and Hungary in the preparation of creating an Axis alliance. The time wasnt quite right though, he hoped to get all three nations to join at a time it would do the most psychological damage.
In addition, he began the quiet mobilisation of German forces. All U-Boats were shifted to Kiel, while the eastern land forces were redeployed against the Polish border. At all times, Kan did not want a war, but he was fully prepared for one.
The Eastern Front
The obvious worry was the eternal German fear - a two front war. However the Council argued that not only was the forces opposing France sufficient, they could launch an offensive war at the present time against them in addition to a war against Poland.
While Kan appreciated these sentiments, he wanted to make sure at least one front would be secure. As such, he sent Lord Till on a mission to kill two birds with one stone. He was sent to negotiate a deal with Soviet Russia.
The deal was fairly simple on paper. Poland would be split between Germany and Russia, Russia would send supplies to Germany, there would be peace in the east. However it went deeper than that - not only did it secure the east and prevent a two-front war, it effectively ended the threat of a blockade by the British Royal Navy. They could prevent imports coming by sea as much as they wanted - Russia would take care of it.
As such, the historic Molotov-Till Pact was signed on August 24th, and the Emperor sighed in relief. One enemy at a time, one conquest after another.
As such, he removed himself from planning and looking ahead and sent a message to Poland. Either they would surrender Danzig and the region around it, or they would face war
To all: So that's it then, we're about to face the second world war, assuming Poland doesn't surrender Danzig. I ask the council for their opinions and what they believe should be done. I probably won't post another story update until tommorow, but I'll try to get an Order of Battle report regarding the Polish front sometime tonight.
March - August 1939
The British response to the German annexation of the Czech Republic was almost immediate. On the 30th July they offered Poland - the obvious target of Germanys future expansion plans - an offer to join their alliance, which was accepted. It was a clear statement that if Germany was to mess with Poland, they would see an Allied response.
Emperor Kan had foreseen this, of course. For the past year he had been developing good relations with Spain, Italy and Hungary in the preparation of creating an Axis alliance. The time wasnt quite right though, he hoped to get all three nations to join at a time it would do the most psychological damage.
In addition, he began the quiet mobilisation of German forces. All U-Boats were shifted to Kiel, while the eastern land forces were redeployed against the Polish border. At all times, Kan did not want a war, but he was fully prepared for one.
The Eastern Front
The obvious worry was the eternal German fear - a two front war. However the Council argued that not only was the forces opposing France sufficient, they could launch an offensive war at the present time against them in addition to a war against Poland.
While Kan appreciated these sentiments, he wanted to make sure at least one front would be secure. As such, he sent Lord Till on a mission to kill two birds with one stone. He was sent to negotiate a deal with Soviet Russia.
The deal was fairly simple on paper. Poland would be split between Germany and Russia, Russia would send supplies to Germany, there would be peace in the east. However it went deeper than that - not only did it secure the east and prevent a two-front war, it effectively ended the threat of a blockade by the British Royal Navy. They could prevent imports coming by sea as much as they wanted - Russia would take care of it.
As such, the historic Molotov-Till Pact was signed on August 24th, and the Emperor sighed in relief. One enemy at a time, one conquest after another.
As such, he removed himself from planning and looking ahead and sent a message to Poland. Either they would surrender Danzig and the region around it, or they would face war
To all: So that's it then, we're about to face the second world war, assuming Poland doesn't surrender Danzig. I ask the council for their opinions and what they believe should be done. I probably won't post another story update until tommorow, but I'll try to get an Order of Battle report regarding the Polish front sometime tonight.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
I suggest we build some more planes seeing as we only have 12 interceptors. However, the British Navy is a huge threat, we need a larger navy that can be supported by my Stukas.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
12 squadrons of interceptors, dear sir, and we have plenty of Stukas.
I agree that we need more planes though. When the U-Boat production run is ended I will switch to planes.
I agree that we need more planes though. When the U-Boat production run is ended I will switch to planes.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Ahh, ok, that's much better. Mwha wha ha a!
Just one request, don't use my bombers to scare pople instead of taking out important targets.
Just one request, don't use my bombers to scare pople instead of taking out important targets.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Questio about the game: The polish inf in real life was using antiquated equipment, in the game do they have the same stats as our infantry?
Kozmos
Jew Detective
We do need aircraft carriers and battleships, it will make our job of defeating Britain much more easier. Of course for now, do build more planes, seeing as they will be needed for aircraft carriers, that is if you approve of this plan Mein Furher.
Sidenote, I just totally ousted a Hunt I destroyer with one torpedo fired from the aft tube, it did an amazing job of turning 90 degrees and directly hitting the propulsion blowing it high sky. Mwhahahaha I dont remember why did I uninstall the game at all.
Sidenote, I just totally ousted a Hunt I destroyer with one torpedo fired from the aft tube, it did an amazing job of turning 90 degrees and directly hitting the propulsion blowing it high sky. Mwhahahaha I dont remember why did I uninstall the game at all.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
PrinceScamp Military tagets are our primary target for the Luftwaffe.
Regarding the Polish question: they won't be a threat technology-wise. Their industry stength means it's very unlikely they're able to match our troops man to man. In a month they will be gone.
Nuclear kid I agree, but a move into Danzig will be preceded by an attack into Poznan and then into Poland proper. There is no need to protect Stettin, as there will be noone to protect the province from
Cleric Glad to see you're getting back into Silent Hunter. It is a great game. I can't understand how a game that requires you to patiently sit for half an hour before launching an attack can be such fun, but it is!
Regarding the battleships and carriers, I am tempted, but I'm going to have to over-rule you. I've given far to much resources to U-Boats than I normally do, so you'll have to do with that. Besides, given the strength of the Royal Navy you can see a surface fleet has no chance against them
And now, the Order of Battle against Poland:
Regarding the Polish question: they won't be a threat technology-wise. Their industry stength means it's very unlikely they're able to match our troops man to man. In a month they will be gone.
Nuclear kid I agree, but a move into Danzig will be preceded by an attack into Poznan and then into Poland proper. There is no need to protect Stettin, as there will be noone to protect the province from
Cleric Glad to see you're getting back into Silent Hunter. It is a great game. I can't understand how a game that requires you to patiently sit for half an hour before launching an attack can be such fun, but it is!
Regarding the battleships and carriers, I am tempted, but I'm going to have to over-rule you. I've given far to much resources to U-Boats than I normally do, so you'll have to do with that. Besides, given the strength of the Royal Navy you can see a surface fleet has no chance against them
And now, the Order of Battle against Poland:
IronMan2055
Korra 2011
be prepared for a polish attack on Elbing and Konigsper. also i think it would be best to try to reach Cracow and Warsaw as soon as possible Mien Fuher
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Ironman2055
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Ironman2055
Kozmos
Jew Detective
Well at least we need the Bismarck, if not now, then later.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Sadly we may have to expect a temporary loss of Elbing if our troops are not fast enough. Konigsburg should be fine.
Remember at all times IronMan - the principles of "blitzkrieg" demand the desruction of armies, not cities. They are but secondary targets in the upcoming campaign.
Cleric: The Bismarck was sunk on her maiden voyage, do you really want such a vessel?
I am considering expanding our navy, don't worry
Remember at all times IronMan - the principles of "blitzkrieg" demand the desruction of armies, not cities. They are but secondary targets in the upcoming campaign.
Cleric: The Bismarck was sunk on her maiden voyage, do you really want such a vessel?
I am considering expanding our navy, don't worry
IronMan2055
Korra 2011
also congats on gaining control of your Home-land Mien Fuher
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors
August 1939
The final week of August saw a sudden flurry of activity in the Council of Doom. Commanders had to be assigned, armies to be designated, plans to be developed in the event of war. By the 26th it was complete, and all Germany had to do was await Lord Tills return from Poland, where he was delivering the demand for Danzig.
The result was as expected:
Whups, gone and started a world war how silly.
Britain and France immediately declared war on Germany, and brought in the Commonwealth and any allies into the party. In Germany itself, the news was greeted with quiet worry - her armies had yet to prove themselves in battle.
The plan for the invasion of Poland was relatively straightforward, and divided into two phases under the name Operation: Donar. Phase One (shown in red, below) was the encirclement and destruction of Polands forward armies. If all went according to plan, it would wipe out the bulk of her defences, and allow Phase Two (in blue) to begin, in which major cities would be taken and victory declared. Anything beyond that would be considered a mopping-up scenario.
Operation: Donar
In the west, the armies would stay on the defensive. The only major action would be to put the Grand Fleet to sea, and have them patrol the Skagerrak Strait - protecting the entry to the Baltic Sea. The U-Boat armada would not be sent out just yet.
The operations into Poland would begin in a mere six hours
August 1939
The final week of August saw a sudden flurry of activity in the Council of Doom. Commanders had to be assigned, armies to be designated, plans to be developed in the event of war. By the 26th it was complete, and all Germany had to do was await Lord Tills return from Poland, where he was delivering the demand for Danzig.
The result was as expected:
Whups, gone and started a world war how silly.
Britain and France immediately declared war on Germany, and brought in the Commonwealth and any allies into the party. In Germany itself, the news was greeted with quiet worry - her armies had yet to prove themselves in battle.
The plan for the invasion of Poland was relatively straightforward, and divided into two phases under the name Operation: Donar. Phase One (shown in red, below) was the encirclement and destruction of Polands forward armies. If all went according to plan, it would wipe out the bulk of her defences, and allow Phase Two (in blue) to begin, in which major cities would be taken and victory declared. Anything beyond that would be considered a mopping-up scenario.
Operation: Donar
In the west, the armies would stay on the defensive. The only major action would be to put the Grand Fleet to sea, and have them patrol the Skagerrak Strait - protecting the entry to the Baltic Sea. The U-Boat armada would not be sent out just yet.
The operations into Poland would begin in a mere six hours
Kozmos
Jew Detective
Go, go, go! When we 'liberate' France I may post a story. Record tonnage for me 21,447.
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Hearts of Iron II German AAR - Written by the Victors
30th August - 7th October 1939
The Luftwaffe was the first to see action, as planes engaged in fighting over west Germany and against targets in Poland. Two hours after the bombardment began, German forces crossed the border and engaged the enemy. The Polish fell back on all fronts.
Polish artillery is overrun on the border
Phase One of Operation Donar was active, and everything was going according to plan. By the 4th September Lt. General Hopners panzers were in Radom - the province south of Warsaw.
The Poles were not entirely willing to give in, however, and began an immediate offensive into Eastern Prussia. This was entirely expected by Emperor Kan, and indeed most of the region had no ground defences to fight back with. While the German people were unhappy with the loss of ground, the events of September 17th-22nd quickly made up for it, as Phase One came to it’s bloody conclusion. Polish armies were by now surrounded in the north and south, including a massive 11 division army in Elbing. The German attack was swift and brutal, and effectively wiped out 21 divisions - a third of Poland’s strength.
After a brief resting period, Phase Two was begun - this time focusing on the capture of important cities - above all Warsaw, Lvov and Grodno. By now the Soviet Union had honoured the Till-Molotov Pact and invaded eastern Poland. The Allies did not declare war on them.
Warsaw surrounded
By October it was effectively over. Resistance in Warsaw crumbled on the 3rd, and the city was captured on the 6th. The next day Poland surrendered to Germany…
30th August - 7th October 1939
The Luftwaffe was the first to see action, as planes engaged in fighting over west Germany and against targets in Poland. Two hours after the bombardment began, German forces crossed the border and engaged the enemy. The Polish fell back on all fronts.
Polish artillery is overrun on the border
Phase One of Operation Donar was active, and everything was going according to plan. By the 4th September Lt. General Hopners panzers were in Radom - the province south of Warsaw.
The Poles were not entirely willing to give in, however, and began an immediate offensive into Eastern Prussia. This was entirely expected by Emperor Kan, and indeed most of the region had no ground defences to fight back with. While the German people were unhappy with the loss of ground, the events of September 17th-22nd quickly made up for it, as Phase One came to it’s bloody conclusion. Polish armies were by now surrounded in the north and south, including a massive 11 division army in Elbing. The German attack was swift and brutal, and effectively wiped out 21 divisions - a third of Poland’s strength.
After a brief resting period, Phase Two was begun - this time focusing on the capture of important cities - above all Warsaw, Lvov and Grodno. By now the Soviet Union had honoured the Till-Molotov Pact and invaded eastern Poland. The Allies did not declare war on them.
Warsaw surrounded
By October it was effectively over. Resistance in Warsaw crumbled on the 3rd, and the city was captured on the 6th. The next day Poland surrendered to Germany…
Kan' Sharuminar
Fluffy
Interlude One
Just a pretty important question for the Council: the invasion of France. I reckon that it will take one to two months to defeat them, and since our troops from the east won't be deployed until the end of October, this means we'll be facing harsher weather and a possible winter campaign - not good.
However, if we wait until the spring of 1940, we risk having France reinforce herself, along with allied reinforcements. This could seriously lengthen a campaign against them, though at the same time it allows our armies to be reinforced.
Meanwhile, the attack into Poland went quite well, in my opinion - in particular the encirclements, which is something I'm not very good at. I shall look into it more. And the air war went very well too
Just a pretty important question for the Council: the invasion of France. I reckon that it will take one to two months to defeat them, and since our troops from the east won't be deployed until the end of October, this means we'll be facing harsher weather and a possible winter campaign - not good.
However, if we wait until the spring of 1940, we risk having France reinforce herself, along with allied reinforcements. This could seriously lengthen a campaign against them, though at the same time it allows our armies to be reinforced.
Meanwhile, the attack into Poland went quite well, in my opinion - in particular the encirclements, which is something I'm not very good at. I shall look into it more. And the air war went very well too
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
I am most pelased with the performance of my stukas. The polish swordsmen stood no chance. Can you us a picture of France, Belgium and Holland and our border there?
Till
Adventurer
As long as we can outproduce France, i would suggest to wait. Waiting harbours the risk of slower progress. Rushing risks high casulties, which might even prevent us from holding what we have conquered.
If we could take a couple of fortifications before winter arrives, it would help us when we start the invasion in earnest, however.
If we could take a couple of fortifications before winter arrives, it would help us when we start the invasion in earnest, however.
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