SGOTM 08 - Smurkz

Xcalibrator · Oct 1, 2008

Niklas said:
Xc, what makes you say we'll have Lit before Marble? I'm expecting Lit around turn 91 at best, but my projections are very vague. I'd love to be wrong there.

Er, I expect to meet another civ that will give us several techs? Nah, I was remembering wrong. We might pick up a little time with extra trade, though.

And, YES, as unkle says, let's make sure that all chop actions are cancelled immediately!! (Or let's have Niklas do all the turns up to 68

).

Xcalibrator · Oct 2, 2008

So, are we good to go again? Is Rolo going to continue (with a foolproof premeditated list of actions) or will Niklas go next? The suspense of waiting for the Pyramids is killing me.

r_rolo1 · Oct 2, 2008

I'll pick the rest of the turns tomorrow.... I said that to Niklas, but look that I forgot to post it here ( I'm doing a lab report ATM

)

Methos · Oct 2, 2008

Regarding the spreadsheet, I talked to Niklas via IM about it, hence my lack of input here. Rolo, IM me when you're going to play.

Niklas · Oct 2, 2008

Well, to be perfectly honest we only discussed the structure of the sheet, not its contents for this particular game. But yeah.

unkle · Oct 3, 2008

Depending on when you'll play, I might be available on IM (Niklas & Methos have my adress on MSN)

r_rolo1 · Oct 3, 2008

Small plan :

Cities:
Yosmurkzhappy
Whip settler for 3 pop on T65
Builds: Settler (T66), Worker (T67), ( work in galley between turn 67 and 68, axe until turn 71 , unfinished )
Tile switches: Cows, Fish x2, Gold, Hill is default
T65: default
T66: Switch to Fish x2, Gold, Sci x2
T67: back to default
T70: Switch from Hill to forested hill, to give Hill to #2 ( niklas spotted that both cities were working this hill at the same time in the posted spreadsheet )

Hari-Smurkz
Tile switches: pig hill and grassland copper hill are default
T67: work extra forested grassland @ pop 3
T70: work extra forested grassland + mined grass hill @ pop 4

Green Dot
Settle on T68 and give a nice name ( probably mine

)
Start granary
Work clams

Worker moves
For that I refer to Niklas spreadsheet on this post Workers will receive the names stated there

Other units
Workboat: Move to the clams and make fishing boats there @ turn 67
Warrior: Try to force a fight with barb warrior in advantage position to get enough XP for woodie II. All after will depend on the result of the fight, if there is one

Niklas · Oct 3, 2008

Looks good rolo. :thumbsup:

Please play on!

Xcalibrator · Oct 3, 2008

The spreadsheet also says drop research to 0% after gaining Math to build up cash, and then put it back at 100% on turn 71. (Niklas, can we really afford 3 turns with no research?)

Niklas · Oct 3, 2008

Good point Xc. Yes, we can definitely afford it. We don't really need any of the techs between Maths and Literature, so we should maximize our treasury to keep it as big as possible and only drop to its lowest point on the turn we get Literature. This also has the added benefit of giving us more time to potentially meet someone who might trade us Myst and/or Poly, or at least give us a slight bonus towards researching them.

Niklas · Oct 3, 2008

Ok, rolo just remarked that we don't need to chop all the forests before we settle, since it's possible to guide the chop hammers to the right town by un-greying the proper town in the city screen. Wish we had known that earlier... :crazyeye:

Since rolo is 101% certain this works, here's a new plan that takes this into account, and that gets us the plains hill mine in time:

It delays the dumbos to turn 76, but we don't need them in the capitol until then anyway.

r_rolo1 · Oct 3, 2008

As mr Niklas is a confess control freak

I decided to post a small test save.....

Simply chop the forest where the workers are ( tile shared by 2 cities BFC ). Depending of which city has it ungreyed in the City screen the chop will go to that city. Try it

Niklas · Oct 3, 2008

Ok, I tried it and I confirm it indeed works. Glad to have you onboard, rolo. :thumbsup:

r_rolo1 · Oct 3, 2008

Well, as we have a new worker order proposal from niklas ( that was drafted a little in a hurry ), both me and niklas decided that it would be better to give some time to the rest of the team to spot any possible error in there.

As that, the game will be resumed tomorrow somewhere between 6-7 PM GMT ( the game currently is on turn 65, with a settler on cap and 2 hired sci, but with all the units unmoved so far ). We'll be making a IM chat for discussion online of the game and I hope most of the team can be there ( for those that don't know, my IM email is r_rolo1@hotmail.com )

p.S If you find a error in any of the spreadsheets... you know what to do

r_rolo1 · Oct 4, 2008

Ok, turnset until turn 71 done.....

Everything is going by plan. And besides founding our city #3 nothing momentuous happened....

Some screenies:

Spoiler :

Autolog

Spoiler :

And OFC the save

P.S I putted a note in the log, but we have a fish deal with shaka. Remember to check if shaka has something useful to trade after turn 78

Niklas · Oct 4, 2008

Looks great rolo, much better than those previous turns... :mischief:

The trade routes with Shaka's towns give nice boosts to our commerce, so we're ahead of schedule for research. Hari is on track for Pyramids in 86, really nice. And still no adverse random events, wonderful.

Roster:

unkle - UP!
Niklas - On Deck!
Backwards Logic - Warming up
Methos
Xcalibrator
r_rolo1 - Just played
Renata - vacation mode
ChrisShaffer - advisor mode

unkle!

unkle · Oct 5, 2008

official got it here
need to come up with some plans

Niklas · Oct 5, 2008

For the record, here's what I proposed before the last turnset for the capitol (though with slightly up'ed research numbers):

It's possible we might be able to do better, this one predicts Literature on turn 91 as I noted before, and a GS for Academy on that same turn. The scheme here is maximized for hammers, but maybe what we want is to maximize for beakers instead. We don't really need to maximize for hammers until Literature anyway, as unkle pointed out to me on IM.

Niklas · Oct 6, 2008

This place has become rather silent of late. We've been passed in number of posts quite severely, Geezers are almost 100 posts ahead of us now. Where is everyone?? Where are all the ideas?

I had a look at a spreadsheet that goes a little easier on the whip in order to run more scientists. Here's what I came up with:

EDIT: Note that the research numbers after Literature are phoney, I didn't bother to project that far.

We would delay our second axe to turn 83 (from 76), and the second galley to 90 (85), but the Academy would be sped up by 3 turns and we would have Literature on turn 90, same as Marble is connected. Getting a galley out on turn 90 would be pretty neat btw, perfectly timed to transport the worker from Marble Isle back to the mainland.

Thinking beyond the wonders, I'm thinking we may want to build a barracks and some units in Hari once the Pyramids complete. Sure Parthenon is nice, but Shaka isn't necessarily... :shifty:

The other option is to build/whip a barracks in Harapura pretty soon, and steal a plains hill or two from Hari for speedy production. And regardless of what else we do, another worker would come in very handy.

r_rolo1 · Oct 6, 2008

I agree with making units in hari. The city has a good prod potential even without stealing tiles to the cap and I really would like to have something between me and shaka greedy hands besides warriors

A question: i know it might be too late for that, but, how about getting the big tower with a flame in top? In this kind of maps it is always a good investement.....

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