Who was the nuttiest nut of all time?

Strip away religion from anyone and their mind will be much more sound. :mischief:

Sharwood - you're avatar is the perfect picture of a preacher of alien atheism. I mean like rreally the Poster Boy. I reserve the right to adopt religion if I ever change my mind
 
Strip away religion from anyone and their mind will be much more sound. :mischief:

No doubt that would also be true if you were to strip away emotion and desire as well - but that would be no harder. Unfortunately the "cultured despisers" seem to be no more aware of that than they were in 1799.
 
No doubt that would also be true if you were to strip away emotion and desire as well - but that would be no harder. Unfortunately the "cultured despisers" seem to be no more aware of that than they were in 1799.
Oh, I'm in favour of stripping all that away too. Live long and prosper.
 
All religious people everywhere are nuts. There, I said it.

We could say the same about all movie stars.



My point was just that saying someone's nuttiness was affected by how long their nutty ideas had been around wasn't really much of a criterion. That's all. Be like saying Stalin was more evil than Hitler because he gained power sooner.

That's a good point. And really we can't judge nuttiness for all time, since culture has changed a lot. Nuttiness in 700 BC Greece isn't nuttiness today. Someone very straight in their day, might be considered very nutty if encountered today. Possibly the only consensus for a criteria would be someone who was considered very nutty in their day, who might also be considered pretty nutty if encountered in modern times.
 
John Mytton (1796- 1834)

Mytton started early- he was expelled from Westminster School at the age of 12 for repeatedly getting involved in fist-fights with his teachers (which he usually won), and for leaving horses in his tutor's (upper storey) bedroom. He was expelled from Harrow after only 3 days. He became MP for Shrewsbury in 1819 by wandering around his constituents, inviting them to take £10 notes from his hat. However he found his first visit to Parliament dull and never went back.

Instead of politics he concentrated on his drinking and dangerous sports. A typical day would consist of drinking 5 bottles of port for breakfast, racing his carriage until it would crash, followed by a bout of wrestling with his pet bear. Occasionally he would watch dog-fights, though he tended to get over-excited and on one occasion defeated a champion fighting Bull Terrier with just his teeth. He was also a keen practical joker- guests at his home tended to wake up next to horses or bears, and he was particularly fond of dressing up as a highwayman in order to rob his guests as they returned home.

His physical fortitude was legendary. Shunning warm clothing, he was once seen running stark naked across a frozen lake chasing a duck. The summit of his achievements in this field came with his cure for hiccups. Having heard that suffering a fright could cure hiccups, he attempted to cure himself by setting his nighshirt on fire. In the process he suffered severe burns that left him bed-ridden for a month, but was reputedly delighted that his cure was a success- declaring "The hiccup is gone, by God!" before losing consciousness. While recovering, he staggered several miles in his bandages to keep an appointment as the carriage sent to collect him had only two horses, and he refused to settle for less than four. He ended his days in a debtors jail, drinking himself to death.
 
Field Marshal Haig - the man who said that machine guns should be captured by grit, determination and nice neat lines of men marching up to them.
 
yeh - him and John Traviolta both are poster boys for the Church of Scientology are they not ? Ted Nugent is a little over the top too - but for different reasons.
John Travolta is at least a likable guy, albeit deluded. Tom Cruise, in addition to being deluded, is very easy to hate.
 
what's the scoop with tom cruise (is that his real name - or is it Cruz)
It's Cruise. You're thinking of that tasty little Spanish broad he was banging after he split from Nicole. Penelope Cruz. Not nearly as attractive as she used to be, I'm afraid.
 
It's Cruise. You're thinking of that tasty little Spanish broad he was banging after he split from Nicole. Penelope Cruz. Not nearly as attractive as she used to be, I'm afraid.

Nicole Kidman had a lot more going than her - oh who knows (and frankly who cares) why these actors split up and try a different combination.
 
Nicole Kidman had a lot more going than her - oh who knows (and frankly who cares) why these actors split up and try a different combination.
Because Nicole has not aged well? Look at her forehead. Not hard, it's taller than she is. Or maybe he wanted a woman his own size? I don't know, but I'd nail Katie Holmes over Nicole. Though the amount of actors getting married to and divorced from other actors surprises me.
 
I assume its partly the type of business and demands it makes on their self image, like a power trip, but most don't get married for that reason I think.
 
I assume its partly the type of business and demands it makes on their self image, like a power trip, but most don't get married for that reason I think.
I can see them getting married for image reasons, I jsut don't see why an actor would marry another actor. They probably see their families little enough as it is, without both of them doing it. Why can't they marry royalty, like Grace Kelly and Arnold Schwartznegger did? make more sense.
 
There is this Paraguayan dictator named "Francia", I think -- I know that his nickname was "el supremo". Not only was he nuts, but he ruled for decades. Far longer than Bokassa or Nero or any of the other people mentioned here.

Turkmenbashi is also a good pick.
 
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