raystuttgart
Civ4Col Modder
Great.
But would you present pictures of the graphics? The graphics might be interesting...
Here you go.
It is the ship on the right.
(It is contained in AoD and also in our /transfer in SVN.)
[Religion and Revolution]: Bugs and Todos
- Thread starter raystuttgart
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Great.
Here you go.
It is the ship on the right.
(It is contained in AoD and also in our /transfer in SVN.)
Robert Surcouf
Civ4Col Modder
I've posted a new update.
- I've set TAX_TRADE_THRESHOLD to 500 (instead of 200) in GlobalDefinesAlt.xml
- I've fixed the incorrect native buildings.
- I've translated a few texts.
About privateers, there's been a misunderstanding. I don't wand to make piracy easier, I want to make trade harder!
We should have to escort our trade ships. It makes life more interesting
- I've set TAX_TRADE_THRESHOLD to 500 (instead of 200) in GlobalDefinesAlt.xml
- I've fixed the incorrect native buildings.
- I've translated a few texts.
About privateers, there's been a misunderstanding. I don't wand to make piracy easier, I want to make trade harder!
We should have to escort our trade ships. It makes life more interesting
raystuttgart
Civ4Col Modder
Great.
Human player might be good at this.
AI is not.
So if we make Piracy easier / Trade harder, we will only weaken AI in the end ...
Also consider, that we will eventually have Pirates.
If all trade ships are weak, that might become a big problem for AI.
Robert Surcouf
Civ4Col Modder
You're welcome!Great.
Oh! I see... And I agree with Schmiddie, AI seems a little weak on the long term. But it is is easy as in vanilla C4CHuman player might be good at this.
AI is not.
So if we make Piracy easier / Trade harder, we will only weaken AI in the end ...
Also consider, that we will eventually have Pirates.
If all trade ships are weak, that might become a big problem for AI.
Something is definitively wrong with our mapscripts...
In CvMapGeneratorUtil.py addForestsAtPlot function seems incorrect. I'll fix it:
Code:
def addForestsAtPlot(self, pPlot, iX, iY, lat):
if pPlot.canHaveFeature(self.featureForest):
#if self.forests.getHeight(iX, iY) >= self.iForestTundraLevel:
if pPlot.canHaveFeature(self.featureForestTundra):
pPlot.setFeatureType(self.featureForestTundra, -1)
elif self.forests.getHeight(iX, iY) >= self.iForestLevel:
pPlot.setFeatureType(self.featureForest, -1)The original code is:
Code:
def addForestsAtPlot(self, pPlot, iX, iY, lat):
if pPlot.canHaveFeature(self.featureForest):
if self.forests.getHeight(iX, iY) >= self.iForestLevel:
pPlot.setFeatureType(self.featureForest, -1)raystuttgart
Civ4Col Modder
I do not think the part you mentioned is wrong.
Because the decision if the Plot should have forrest is a totally different one, than the decisions which forrest to set.
In addForestsAtPlot it is only decided which Forrest to set.
(And not if a Forrest is supposed to be set.)
If a Forrest is to be set and the Plot can have Taiga (ForestTundra), then Taiga should be set in there and not another Forrest.
Please do not change the code at that position.
(This is only the position that decides which Forrest and not if.)
But maybe the code is wrong some place else.
(Maybe take a look where addForestsAtPlot is called.
)Robert Surcouf
Civ4Col Modder
Don't worry I'll check!
Androrc the Orc
Emperor
Abandoning Cities
(@Robert: This Feature is already fully implemented in my Preview)
It is based on a mod-component from Trachmyr.
(I added improvements.)
It basically works like the "Abandon City" from Original CivCol.
A) Drag&Drop the last Citizen of a City to the Garrison-Area in City-Screen.
B) You can equip that settlers in that process if you want.
C) There will be a warning that the city will be lost soon.
D) Now you have time till the end of the game turn
- to change your mind and put a settler in the city again -> this will stop the abandoning
- send ships or wagontrains for example to the empty city to take out the last goods.
E) When you finish the game turn, the city is lost.
Feedback ?
I remember Trachmyr's mod gave me Python exceptions in the city screen when abandoning the colony (but if Python exceptions were disabled, nothing bad would happen). Did you manage to fix that?
mscibor
Chieftain
Quick question: is this normal and planned behavior that Tavern is producing alcohol? I have no grapes, no barley and still it is producing wine and beer. I thought that Tavern are using alcohols, not producing. Maybe I do not understand the concept here? Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
raystuttgart
Civ4Col Modder
Well yes, that is the normal behaviour of a tavern.
(In taverns of that time, usually small amounts of different alcohols were produced. They were partially self supplying.)
Otherwise the building currently would do nothing else, than unlocking sales at Domestic Market for alcohol ...
(Would have been a very weak building then for the moment.)
In future releases, Taverns will do a lot more though.
(The features / events for Tavern are simply not very highly prioritized currently.)
As I said, we simply need time to implement all our ideas ...
Be aware that changing the addFeaturesAtPlot() function (the one you need) should be done with caution.
Not sure how the team has implemented changes in map scripts but the problem with these functions is that other map scripts (not explicitly adapted to R&R) will not work or use your features, since they are calling addFeaturesAtPlot() with their own parameters for ex.
Also some map scripts include their own addForestsAtPlot() (in fact all the features functions)and your features will work in a different way in those cases. So better not to change the function which controls where you want forest or tundra unless you want to explicitly adapt map scripts...
I have found ways to force changes in all map scripts even with scripts not adapted, but it takes time and many tries. The same can be applied to just put any map script to the mod and let it work without your changes! So the system works in both ways and allow users to play with any map (so that only balance matters and you don't care for compatibility)
What fixes or changes have you in mind, Robert Surcouf?
mscibor
Chieftain
I have found few (actually not very important) visual issues:
1. I have problem with special letters in city screen. In world map I can see correct name Québec, but in city screen there is Quźbec. "ź" is Polish letter, so I'm pretty sure that this is related to Polish version of the game (although I'm playing in English). Do You know how can I change in XML (if possible) fonts in city screen to the same from world map? Or how to correct this in any other way?
2. I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but the bridge looks like rail bridge made of steel. Maybe this is just me, but this looks quite odd In TAC it looked more like stone bridge.
3. In city screen in buildings which are producing more then one yield, the second yield is always showing that it is consuming some resources twice:
"Converts Tools into Guns"
"Converts Tools and Tools into Cannons"
To be honest I'm not sure if this is bug or maybe some technical limitations (in the end Vanillia was not designed to such functionality).
1. I have problem with special letters in city screen. In world map I can see correct name Québec, but in city screen there is Quźbec. "ź" is Polish letter, so I'm pretty sure that this is related to Polish version of the game (although I'm playing in English). Do You know how can I change in XML (if possible) fonts in city screen to the same from world map? Or how to correct this in any other way?
Spoiler :
2. I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but the bridge looks like rail bridge made of steel. Maybe this is just me, but this looks quite odd
In TAC it looked more like stone bridge.Spoiler :
3. In city screen in buildings which are producing more then one yield, the second yield is always showing that it is consuming some resources twice:
"Converts Tools into Guns"
"Converts Tools and Tools into Cannons"
Spoiler :
To be honest I'm not sure if this is bug or maybe some technical limitations (in the end Vanillia was not designed to such functionality).
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raystuttgart
Civ4Col Modder
Sorry, I have absolutely no experience with Polish version of the game ...
Any problems that might appear in Polish or Russian or any other localization are very unlikely to be fixed by us, sorry.
Edit:
Do you have Special Characters in the Installation Path of the mod ?
(This is a very bad thing for most mods.)
2. I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but the bridge looks like rail bridge made of steel. Maybe this is just me, but this looks quite odd
There are 2 Types of roads (Normal Road, Plastered Road) in Religion and Revolution.
You cannot compare graphics of Plastered Road (which does not exist in TAC) to Normal Road in TAC.
But yes, the bridge for Plastered Road could be prettier.
(I did not notice, when integrating that feature into Religion and Revolution.)
I will check.
Of course Vanilla was not designed for such functionalities but it is our challenge to change the technical limitations.
mscibor
Chieftain
Thanks fo quick reply 
The answers is: no, I don't have special characters in Installation Path.
How can I change fonts in game itself? Theoretically I should be able to change font of city screen name to some other one
This the first thing I checkedDo you have Special Characters in the Installation Path of the mod ?
(This is a very bad thing for most mods.)
The answers is: no, I don't have special characters in Installation Path.How can I change fonts in game itself? Theoretically I should be able to change font of city screen name to some other one
raystuttgart
Civ4Col Modder
How can I change fonts in game itself? Theoretically I should be able to change font of city screen name to some other one
That is not as easy as you think ...
Also, with every public release you would need to do your changes again.
(They would be overwritten by our files again.)
You theortically have 3 possibilities to try:
1. Font files in our mod:
...\Assets\res\Fonts\GameFont.tga
...\Assets\res\Fonts\GameFont_75.tga
2. CitySreen in our Mod:
...\Assets\Python\Screens\CvMainInterface.py
3. Removing Special Characters from the City Names
...\Assets\XML\Civilizations\CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml
But I would not suggest to do changes to any of these files on your own ...
AbsintheRed
Deity
Mscibor, let me guess. Your OS uses a Latin-2 character set... Definitely not a Latin-1 one
You cannot really fix it unfortunately
2 main problems:
The game doesn't support UNICODE (actually it doesn't support any non-ascii characters AFAIK)
Civ IV automatically detects and uses your OS' character set for XML files :/
Fonts directly on the map (in the city name on your first pic) will be good for all Latin-1 characters, as it's handled in the gamefont files
But otherwise the fonts which are different in the Latin-1 and Latin-2 character sets - for example char 224, char 232, etc - will be displayed wrong, no matter what you do
At least I didn't find a solution yet...
You cannot really fix it unfortunately
2 main problems:
The game doesn't support UNICODE (actually it doesn't support any non-ascii characters AFAIK)
Civ IV automatically detects and uses your OS' character set for XML files :/
Fonts directly on the map (in the city name on your first pic) will be good for all Latin-1 characters, as it's handled in the gamefont files
But otherwise the fonts which are different in the Latin-1 and Latin-2 character sets - for example char 224, char 232, etc - will be displayed wrong, no matter what you do
At least I didn't find a solution yet...
raystuttgart
Civ4Col Modder
@AbsintheRed:
Ah, thanks for that hint.
(I really know nothing about these localization problems ...)
Ah, thanks for that hint.
(I really know nothing about these localization problems ...)
raystuttgart
Civ4Col Modder
Hi, I've got Steam English version of CivIV Col with correctly installed Rel&Rev mod. Everytime I play the game with your brilliant mod (no such problems in vanila), after few minutes, CTD occurs. Visual studio 2010 shell appears with a menu to choose a debugger and following message is shown:
"An unhandled win32 exception occured id colonization.exe 984" (I am unsure if the number is always the same).
Besides, the mod needs literally few minutes to load, perhaps due to the specifications of my computer.
Any solution?
Specification (notebook)
"An unhandled win32 exception occured id colonization.exe 984" (I am unsure if the number is always the same).
Besides, the mod needs literally few minutes to load, perhaps due to the specifications of my computer.
Any solution?
Specification (notebook)
Spoiler :
raystuttgart
Civ4Col Modder
Are these CTDs reproducable with a savegame ?
(Or is it possible to load a save and continue playing for a while ?)
Well, I have to admit, that the mod is known to not play well on old operating systems and old computers.
(It is probably related to the huge amount of graphics and additional logic in our Mod.)
Most important from the experience reports:
1. A strong graphic card with lots of graphic memory
2. A lot of RAM
3. A newer operating system (64Bit helps a lot, too)
If the bugs are reproducable with a save (meaning a problem in the logic),
I would probably be able to fix it.
If it is performance related, I can currently not do a lot about it.
(Maybe things will improve a tiny bit with the next release.
)The only advices I have:
1. Play small maps
2. Deactivate everything that is not needed (e.g. Virus Scanner)
3. Play with low settings for graphics
4. Read this post from Isabelxxx
