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View Poll Results: Do you enjoy playing at deity difficulty? (please post and explain your answer)
Yes 4 7.41%
No 29 53.70%
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Old Sep 20, 2011, 04:06 PM   #21
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since when is deity hard?

building units and killing the AI isnt really a loophole or exploit in my eys and its easy at every lvl ...

well u can just go cult aswell as shown in Davs game or mine in the same GOTM
This quote is exactly what you have to deal at Deity. You can't do things half ways(tommy did build the GL for example and ''got all in'' like he said...personnally i think he got lucky because in my game the GL was built at turn 30 and it's impossible to build the GL at that time without some special ruins). You litterally need to ''castrate'' or ''rape'' the AI before they will.

Many luck factors are counsiderated. Have you met everyone before turn 70 to ensure enough traders? What about barbs bad luck? AI can settle in different places from different players on same map.

Or you can try to be the perfect little innocent girl and do right things to not be attacked at all.

Sincerely, some maps make things impossible or nearly impossible for a human brain. One thing is sure : You need luck somewhere, but you can reduce this luck factor from what we can see from tommy's and Dave's game.

I still not like Deity
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Old Sep 21, 2011, 12:09 AM   #22
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You might check out Maltz' level 9 for an alternative to deity with fewer starting bonusses triggering early wars to an attempt at a more evenly balanced game towards middle and end.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=421634
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Old Sep 21, 2011, 01:25 AM   #23
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I hate Deity but I play it because all other difficulty levels are too easy.
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Old Sep 22, 2011, 03:33 PM   #24
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I don't normally play Deity since it effectively restricts your options to warmongering or playing on a water map and abusing the AI's inability to wage aquatic war. Plus you tend to rely on a good start to get anywhere at all.
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Old Sep 22, 2011, 03:47 PM   #25
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deity is a joke. A special ed kid could win playing on deity. Civ 5 is a dumbed down joke that's has killed a great series. It's clear this game was designed to appeal to everyone who couldn't beat civ 4 on chieftain or who found civ 4 too complicated altogether. Thank you for ruining the series losers
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Old Sep 22, 2011, 04:24 PM   #26
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deity is a joke. A special ed kid could win playing on deity. Civ 5 is a dumbed down joke that's has killed a great series. It's clear this game was designed to appeal to everyone who couldn't beat civ 4 on chieftain or who found civ 4 too complicated altogether. Thank you for ruining the series losers
Where have you been all this time? You sound like one of the World's great philosophers! Nice to see you have a sense of humour, your opening sentence is very funny!
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Old Sep 22, 2011, 06:48 PM   #27
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deity can be too much.

its not the starting bonuses that are the problem. its the constant wave of units. but i suppose thats due to the bonuses
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Old Sep 22, 2011, 11:36 PM   #28
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deity is a joke. A special ed kid could win playing on deity. Civ 5 is a dumbed down joke that's has killed a great series. It's clear this game was designed to appeal to everyone who couldn't beat civ 4 on chieftain or who found civ 4 too complicated altogether. Thank you for ruining the series losers
I like this guy.
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Old Sep 23, 2011, 05:16 AM   #29
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Deity is far too difficult and I've got no intention to play it on any Civ game

I'll spend my time doing something fun instead
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Old Sep 23, 2011, 11:50 AM   #30
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This quote is exactly what you have to deal at Deity. You can't do things half ways(tommy did build the GL for example and ''got all in'' like he said...personnally i think he got lucky because in my game the GL was built at turn 30 and it's impossible to build the GL at that time without some special ruins). You litterally need to ''castrate'' or ''rape'' the AI before they will.

Many luck factors are counsiderated. Have you met everyone before turn 70 to ensure enough traders? What about barbs bad luck? AI can settle in different places from different players on same map.

Or you can try to be the perfect little innocent girl and do right things to not be attacked at all.

Sincerely, some maps make things impossible or nearly impossible for a human brain. One thing is sure : You need luck somewhere, but you can reduce this luck factor from what we can see from tommy's and Dave's game.

I still not like Deity
I m near 100% sure that you can build 5 Longswords aswell - and thats really all u need to kill 2 civs (have never tried rush - but maybe even a 3-4 sword rush might work aswell to kill 1

after killing 2 civs stuff gets really easy imo
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Old Sep 23, 2011, 12:33 PM   #31
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I just play hot-seat against myself, the challenge is a lot harder than deity.

Deity is fun for a one off, but for SP I would much rather play with house rules, not exploit the AI and pursue strategies I choose rather than take advantage of weaknesses in the AI programming. I find on Emporer I can play as I like, and if things go well I win, and if they don't go well I lose.

I understand why people like to push themselves, but to me it is like challenging your 12 year old brother to a game of basketball and then cheering when you beat him 50-0.

I already have a difficult job with repetitive tasks, I don't need another where I make sure to check for technologies to trade with every single civ every single turn, make sure to farm exp each turn, and make sure to attempt to bribe every turn.
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Old Sep 23, 2011, 12:35 PM   #32
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I played diety one time for the achievement. I won, but only because I set up a game and map that I could win on. Normally I like to play continents, and there is no way I have the patience to put myself through a diety game on a continents map. I play Civ 5 to have fun, not to actually win the most difficult challange possible.
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Old Sep 23, 2011, 01:16 PM   #33
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I've only won one game on deity, and only because I used a memory editor to cheat a cultural win for the achievement. That was a waste of time since you can just do a future era start duel island map where the AI is helpless against you and get the achievement even easier and faster.

I hate playing on Deity, every single time I try it all I end up doing is killing an endless...and I mean endless...stream of warriors around turn 20-30. The only Civ I can have any success with is Babylon because of the super archers, but it's still not fun.
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Old Sep 23, 2011, 04:23 PM   #34
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I just play hot-seat against myself, the challenge is a lot harder than deity.


Sorry, I couldn't resist

Though I'm not sure how this works - surely you know exactly what "antagonist you" is planning and how to counter it?
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Old Oct 10, 2011, 12:07 AM   #35
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Agree, played a few deity wins to get the achieve, but Immortal is more fun.

I can take any start, however bad, and make it stick in immortal. I can go kick backstabbing ghandi in the family jewels because I feel like it even though it deviates from the plan. I can play odd scenarios like Monty's cultural warpath.
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