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View Poll Results: Which techs do you oracle?
Metal Casting 65 49.24%
Hereditary Rule 13 9.85%
Theology 20 15.15%
Civil Service 22 16.67%
Horseback Riding 1 0.76%
Alphabet 6 4.55%
Mathematics 6 4.55%
Aesthetics 5 3.79%
Code of Laws 65 49.24%
Iron Working 3 2.27%
Compass 2 1.52%
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Old Dec 17, 2011, 05:32 AM   #1
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Science Which tech do you oracle?

Which techs do you oracle?

I usually take Metal Casting or Hereditary Rule, whichever I need most. But in a recent game as India I managed to take theology, just had to delay the oracle a little. And is oracling machinery/civil service worth the risk?
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Old Dec 17, 2011, 05:54 AM   #2
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I usually oracle Code of Laws. This givves me those lovely courthouses, perhaps a new religion. Even better if you are an organized leader.
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Old Dec 17, 2011, 06:09 AM   #3
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CoL, or when I play RFC as the Romans, Machinery.
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Old Dec 18, 2011, 01:23 PM   #4
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Monarchy (HR) because it's easy to have your cities maintain happiness.
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Old Dec 18, 2011, 01:39 PM   #5
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CoL usually; to handle the growing costs of your empire, courthouses are always a must

I also get metal casting whenever I think the forges may be useful early on
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Old Dec 18, 2011, 02:37 PM   #6
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Metal Casting, unless I get a Great Merchant first, in which case he'll bulb Metal Casting and I'll use the Oracle for Machinery.
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Old Dec 18, 2011, 03:50 PM   #7
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Machinery. That's what I just did last game. Why is Civil service on here but Machinery not?
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 02:20 AM   #8
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Machinery. That's what I just did last game. Why is Civil service on here but Machinery not?
Oops, I forgot.
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 05:05 AM   #9
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Metal Casting myself, though I'll be aiming at Code of Laws if I get the Oracle next time.
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 05:24 AM   #10
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Depends on the difficulty.
Most of the time i just oracle CoL. Especially if i'm SPI, PHI or IND with mids.
MC is highly situational and depends on wheter i'm industrious or not and the mapscript.
I usually stay away from CS, math, HB, monarchy, IW and compass in a regular game. (= no super start, )
CS because it's to far down the techtree, the others don't have enough beakers, don't bring any major benefits to the early game or aren't difficult to trade for.
Would rather oracle aesth than alpha but both aren't the best options imo.
Machinery sounds interesting, but i've never done that.

On lower difficulties or high commerce start (or OCCs) CS is always a good choice.
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 05:31 AM   #11
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How come isn't fishing on the list???
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 07:13 AM   #12
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Theology. My insistence on founding Christianity in well over 90% of the games I play is just one of a handful of personal game play quirks that prevents me from advancing past Prince.
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 08:12 AM   #13
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How come isn't fishing on the list???
Wow, noob? Everyone knows fishing enables the OP and broken workboat, which allows naval exploration beyond limits at 4000 BC! It's forbidden to do so!
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 09:10 AM   #14
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Wow, noob? Everyone knows fishing enables the OP and broken workboat, which allows naval exploration beyond limits at 4000 BC! It's forbidden to do so!
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I see what you did there!
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 09:24 AM   #15
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Most of the time if I can get the oracle on a higher level, I've been aiming at Theology since turn 2. Sometimes, if I happen to have marble and don't really need to rush and am playing a water heavy map and have copper and a minable happy resource I'll make a point oracle MC. Thats quite a lot of ifs, but it does happen.

If I'm not playing on a hard difficulty, I'll generally oracle something like machinery, just to speed up my overall teching.

I put a really low value on CoL unless I really need the specialist slots...
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 09:37 AM   #16
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I love me some civil service with oracle.

Sadly, that's not an option most of the time, so it kind of depends.

Monarchy is good when happy is scare and no helpful AI are likely to get it for you. Metal Casting is probably best after that. a GM bulb and then machinery sounds great... but it seems difficult to pull off. A philo leader after self-teching CoL and running caste merchants?

Certainly, self-researching metal casting and oracling machinery can work.
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I love me some civil service with oracle.

Sadly, that's not an option most of the time, so it kind of depends.

Monarchy is good when happy is scare and no helpful AI are likely to get it for you. Metal Casting is probably best after that. a GM bulb and then machinery sounds great... but it seems difficult to pull off. A philo leader after self-teching CoL and running caste merchants?

Certainly, self-researching metal casting and oracling machinery can work.
It is very situational, depending on level. When I'm building it I just try to figure what I can research now to get a good tech. It seems to change every game. If I can get Theology on a lower level it makes for good trade bait and gets a head start on the AP.

Monarchy I would only take in isolation. I always seem to see the AI get it quite early and they always seem eager to trade it.
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Kick ass! So that's how the deity guys do it!

I've been doing it in reverse all this time!!!


I've been thinking, about trying to oracle Mysticism, to you know, get a super-duper head-start on the oracle... and then I can use the priest from the oracle to bulb fishing. What do you think of that?
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 04:56 PM   #19
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I love me some civil service with oracle.

Sadly, that's not an option most of the time, so it kind of depends.

Monarchy is good when happy is scare and no helpful AI are likely to get it for you. Metal Casting is probably best after that. a GM bulb and then machinery sounds great... but it seems difficult to pull off. A philo leader after self-teching CoL and running caste merchants?

Certainly, self-researching metal casting and oracling machinery can work.
The great merchant comes from the Great Lighthouse. I usually build the Great Wall, too, and if I have both before Oracle, then there's a chance at getting a merchant (although a great spy is also likely).

I hadn't thought of choosing a Philosophical leader and building just the Great Lighthouse and getting a guaranteed Great Merchant before I finish Oracle.
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Old Dec 19, 2011, 05:28 PM   #20
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I started a religious centric Monarch game, founded Hindi. The oracle wasn't on my radar due to no marble. Zara Yaqob was my next door neighbor and founded Buddhism. Zara is my nemesis player, he causes me headaches in every way when he lives. I'd rather have warmongers or tech whores all around than him. I wanted to get free spreads of Hindi, and his nice central location would spread Budda quick once he got trade. Obviously I had to archer\warrior rush him. Once that was done, lo and behold he had marble in his BFC, and lots of nice trees to chop with the two taken workers.

I was falling behind in tech (a couple AI where ahead of me) due to the archer rush. I went MC, traded it around for alphabet and backfill to tech parity, and then got a leg up in tech that I lever edged to be the first to currency.

Since I was still researching writing when the oracle was done MC was really the only viable option. I had gold, and a coastal captial too, so MC was very good.

Thats my monarch metal casting story
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