The most Glorious Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is going to launch a satallite

NedimNapoleon · Apr 12, 2012, 11:46 AM

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The most insane nation in the world is going to launch a satellite, really NK? May Kim Il Sung be proud of us, discuss

CELTICEMPIRE · Apr 12, 2012, 01:11 PM

I'm not in the least bit worried about North Korea, South Korea could defeat them on their own, and when you add in US help...

NedimNapoleon · Apr 12, 2012, 01:12 PM

I know but you got to love their logic. [sarcasm intended]

SS-18 ICBM · Apr 12, 2012, 01:23 PM

Doesn't mention what kind of satellite it is. It does sound like a missile test. Sucks to be in northern Luzon at that time, I guess.

NedimNapoleon · Apr 12, 2012, 01:25 PM

On Al Jazeera it said it was a meteorological satellite.

SS-18 ICBM · Apr 12, 2012, 01:29 PM

Well, the orientation seems to be right for a polar orbit. Not sure how much they need a weather satellite though.

Kozmos · Apr 12, 2012, 01:29 PM

That is military talk for look away. Like American weather balloons.

Glassfan · Apr 12, 2012, 03:55 PM

CNN has had several reports on this, including some where North Korea allowed international journalists into the launch site. Most of the observers note that it's unintentionally transparent that the NK's are hiding a more robust missile program; the launcher dwarfs the satellite rocket (intended for larger missiles); The fuel storage greatly exceeds the needs of this small missiles; much of the area was off-limits, etc.

Takhisis · Apr 12, 2012, 04:29 PM

'Un'intentionally transparent? They mean to blackmail everyone again the next time their crops fail, they're just setting up the groundwork.

Skwink · Apr 12, 2012, 05:09 PM

They launched it! My bet: everyone says "Bad Kim!' and that's it.

EDIT: Rocket failed, according to CNN.

MajKira · Apr 12, 2012, 05:22 PM

Still Kims family there, youngst son being in power
but as said, it will be shot down, if it threatens South Korea or Japan

Kims dictatorshipped regime still said to wanna attack south lastly

with China reformed now, NK is the very last kommunist regime isolated

CELTICEMPIRE · Apr 12, 2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MajKira

Still Kims family there, youngst son being in power
but as said, it will be shot down, if it threatens South Korea or Japan

Kims dictatorshipped regime still said to wanna attack south lastly

with China reformed now, NK is the very last kommunist regime isolated

What about Vietnam and Cuba?

WWTVICTOR · Apr 12, 2012, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CELTICEMPIRE

What about Vietnam and Cuba?

Vietnam is more socialist and opened-up now...

On the other hand...
Did the launch failed, I wonder?

Skwink · Apr 12, 2012, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WWTVICTOR

Did the launch failed, I wonder?

Yes it did.

NedimNapoleon · Apr 13, 2012, 05:53 AM

I wonder who's going to hang for this one.

Winner · Apr 13, 2012, 06:11 AM

I am surprised they haven't blamed western sabotage yet.

It's really no surprise at all - DPRK is technologically inferior and the "satellite launch" was a front for a ballistic missile test anyway. I just hope this blow to their prestige accelerates the internal collapse of the regime.

Silurian · Apr 13, 2012, 06:14 AM

It did not get very far.

From BBC

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The available information suggests the rocket disintegrated about 90 seconds into its flight, just before first-stage separation and ignition of the second stage.

One account talked of an unusually bright flaring coming from the vehicle.

All that fits with data indicating debris fell into the Yellow Sea about 165km (103 miles) west of Seoul, well short of the impact site where the North Koreans had planned to drop the first stage on a nominal flight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17701229

MajKira · Apr 16, 2012, 05:44 AM

what if it would have fallen into south korean land, likely to treat as act of war?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17399847
News from 13th of April
North Korea is believed to have more than 1,000 missiles of varying capabilities, including long-range missiles which could one day strike the US.

Cutlass · Apr 16, 2012, 06:54 AM

An accident like that wouldn't cause war. South does not want to attack the North. The North probably doesn't want war either, if for no other reason than that the generals seem to have enough power to not let the crazy guy at the top go that far. A war would be hard on the people in the South at first, but the North's army would be crushed soon after that.

The North is a long way from a missile that could hit the US.

MajKira · Apr 16, 2012, 07:00 AM

In 2010 was same case. SouthKorean warship was sunk but no war broke out.

ref:http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...62P30E20100326
South Korean navy ship sinks, North link played down

Apr 12, 2012, 11:46 AM	#1
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Apr 12, 2012, 01:23 PM	#4
SS-18 ICBM Singularity Mechanics Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newton Grav. Lab, Tsiolkovsky Inst. Posts: 11,609	Doesn't mention what kind of satellite it is. It does sound like a missile test. Sucks to be in northern Luzon at that time, I guess. __________________ "Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!" -Psalm 133:1, King James Bible "All men naturally desire knowledge. An indication of this is our esteem for the senses; for apart from their use we esteem them for their own sake, and most of all the sense of sight. [...] The reason of this is that of all the senses sight best helps us to know things, and reveals many distinctions." -Aristotle, I 980a 21, Metaphysics

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Apr 12, 2012, 01:29 PM	#6
SS-18 ICBM Singularity Mechanics Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newton Grav. Lab, Tsiolkovsky Inst. Posts: 11,609	Well, the orientation seems to be right for a polar orbit. Not sure how much they need a weather satellite though. __________________ "Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!" -Psalm 133:1, King James Bible "All men naturally desire knowledge. An indication of this is our esteem for the senses; for apart from their use we esteem them for their own sake, and most of all the sense of sight. [...] The reason of this is that of all the senses sight best helps us to know things, and reveals many distinctions." -Aristotle, I 980a 21, Metaphysics

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Kozmos Hunter Seeker Algorithm Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Datalinks Posts: 11,102	That is military talk for look away. Like American weather balloons. __________________ "If I determine the enemy's disposition of forces while I have no perceptible form, I can concentrate my forces while the enemy is fragmented. The pinnacle of military deployment approaches the formless: if it is formless, then even the deepest spy cannot discern it nor the wise make plans against it." -- Sun Tzu, "The Art of War", Datalinks

Apr 12, 2012, 03:55 PM	#8
Glassfan Itaipu Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,888	CNN has had several reports on this, including some where North Korea allowed international journalists into the launch site. Most of the observers note that it's unintentionally transparent that the NK's are hiding a more robust missile program; the launcher dwarfs the satellite rocket (intended for larger missiles); The fuel storage greatly exceeds the needs of this small missiles; much of the area was off-limits, etc. __________________ Hobbs is officially not on my Ignore List.

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Apr 12, 2012, 05:09 PM	#10
Skwink Bye Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 4,955	They launched it! My bet: everyone says "Bad Kim!' and that's it. EDIT: Rocket failed, according to CNN. Last edited by Skwink; Apr 12, 2012 at 05:18 PM.

Apr 12, 2012, 05:22 PM	#11
MajKira FromHeavensentCommander Join Date: May 2010 Location: HaruhiKiraGundamCarrierArchangel Posts: 892	Still Kims family there, youngst son being in power but as said, it will be shot down, if it threatens South Korea or Japan Kims dictatorshipped regime still said to wanna attack south lastly with China reformed now, NK is the very last kommunist regime isolated Last edited by MajKira; Apr 12, 2012 at 05:26 PM.

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Apr 13, 2012, 06:11 AM	#16
Winner Diverse in Unity Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brno -> Czech rep. >>European Union Posts: 26,491	I am surprised they haven't blamed western sabotage yet. It's really no surprise at all - DPRK is technologically inferior and the "satellite launch" was a front for a ballistic missile test anyway. I just hope this blow to their prestige accelerates the internal collapse of the regime. __________________ "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil" - Thomas Mann

Apr 16, 2012, 05:44 AM	#18
MajKira FromHeavensentCommander Join Date: May 2010 Location: HaruhiKiraGundamCarrierArchangel Posts: 892	what if it would have fallen into south korean land, likely to treat as act of war? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17399847 News from 13th of April North Korea is believed to have more than 1,000 missiles of varying capabilities, including long-range missiles which could one day strike the US.

Apr 16, 2012, 06:54 AM	#19
Cutlass Ideas are Like Stars Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: US of A Posts: 32,195 Images: 6	An accident like that wouldn't cause war. South does not want to attack the North. The North probably doesn't want war either, if for no other reason than that the generals seem to have enough power to not let the crazy guy at the top go that far. A war would be hard on the people in the South at first, but the North's army would be crushed soon after that. The North is a long way from a missile that could hit the US. __________________ Ideas Are Like Stars. Come visit us again! Learn the Basics of Money HERE More Money has been Lost Because of Four Words than at the Point of a Gun. Those words are "This Time is Different." Taking from the poor and giving to the rich is Why Nations Fail In American we call that Reaganomics.

Apr 16, 2012, 07:00 AM	#20
MajKira FromHeavensentCommander Join Date: May 2010 Location: HaruhiKiraGundamCarrierArchangel Posts: 892	In 2010 was same case. SouthKorean warship was sunk but no war broke out. ref:http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...62P30E20100326 South Korean navy ship sinks, North link played down

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