BNP, does anyone take them seriously?

CELTICEMPIRE · May 12, 2012, 08:43 PM

So, the British National Party is an extreme party in the United Kingdom. They want to deport all non-whites from the country while at the same time saying that they don't hate non-white people. I used to live over in the UK and I never knew anyone who supported the BNP (most people I knew supported Plaid Cymru). So, re the BNP a serious force in British politics, or are they just some radical fringe group that has little public support?

Also, Nick Griffin looks like a total nutcase, just saying.

Turquoiside · May 12, 2012, 09:02 PM

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They want to deport all non-whites from the country while at the same time saying that they don't hate non-white people.

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I used to live over in the UK and I never knew anyone who supported the BNP

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So, re the BNP a serious force in British politics

Uhh... No?

BvBPL · May 12, 2012, 09:18 PM

The only use of keeping the BNP around is so folks can draw ready comparisons between the fascist overlords in V for Vendetta and McKellen 1995 movie adaptation of Richard III (which is brilliant, by the way) and the BNP.

Ayn Rand · May 12, 2012, 09:39 PM

This thread will get shut down I'm afraid Celtic. The BNP are not evil as they are commonly made out to be, but most of us in Britain have long ago had our freedom of speech removed on this issue and the kind of people responsible for that will continue it even to internet space.

contre · May 12, 2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Rand

This thread will get shut down I'm afraid Celtic. The BNP are not evil as they are commonly made out to be, but most of us in Britain have long ago had our freedom of speech removed on this issue and the kind of people responsible for that will continue it even to internet space.

Indeed, the BNP has gone on record to say Hitler was bad. How evil can they be?

Leoreth · May 13, 2012, 05:11 AM

Going out of your way to say how Hitler was bad is the first step to become a successful extreme right party.

Ayn Rand · May 13, 2012, 05:16 AM

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Indeed, the BNP has gone on record to say Hitler was bad. How evil can they be?

Godwin by post 5, wasn't expecting that.

How...

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Mr. Dictator · May 13, 2012, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Rand

This thread will get shut down I'm afraid Celtic. The BNP are not evil as they are commonly made out to be, but most of us in Britain have long ago had our freedom of speech removed on this issue and the kind of people responsible for that will continue it even to internet space.

Are you implying the OT moderating staff is in on a thought suppression conspiracy with the British Crown?

Can you see the bottom of the pool from there?

Ayn Rand · May 13, 2012, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dictator

Are you implying the OT moderating staff is in on a thought suppression conspiracy with the British Crown?

Can you see the bottom of the pool from there?

Clearly the OT moderators are a front organisation for illuminati lizard-men working for the Queen.

Catharsis · May 13, 2012, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dictator

Are you implying the OT moderating staff is in on a thought suppression conspiracy with the British Crown?

A scurrilous accusation to make of Lord Ainwood.

Kaiserguard · May 13, 2012, 06:39 AM

nevermind...

Quackers · May 13, 2012, 06:45 AM

It depends on what you mean by serious.
For one on the national stage they are not considered a threat to the established three parties in any form. In the recent local elections I believe they lost all their local councillors, so even for an unimportant job such as a councillor they fail to get any elected.
A few years ago they managed to do quite well in the EU elections, which frightened the establishment into making a noise about immigration, since then the BNPs fortunes have fallen even further.

Now I think they are having a fiscal crisis, they owe an awful amount of money which has led to a few members leaving and making another far-right party.

Ajidica · May 13, 2012, 10:00 AM

Didn't the UKIP get elected to the European Parliament or something like that a few years ago?

Ayn Rand · May 13, 2012, 10:18 AM

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Didn't the UKIP get elected to the European Parliament or something like that a few years ago?

UKIP have always had quite a few MEPs in the Euro parliament, as far as I'm aware. Nothing new there.

Lord of Elves · May 13, 2012, 10:35 AM

link to video.
In answer to the thread's question, I'm going to go with no.

amadeus · May 14, 2012, 02:24 AM

Does the BNP have any connection to the EDL?

Flying Pig · May 14, 2012, 03:48 AM

The EDL are openly thugs, put bluntly; the BNP masquerade as a respectable political party.

Ajidica · May 14, 2012, 10:01 AM

I can't remember which is more nutty: the BNP or the UKIP?

Ayn Rand · May 14, 2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajidica

I can't remember which is more nutty: the BNP or the UKIP?

Neither of them are nutty, they just think differently to you.

Arakhor · May 14, 2012, 10:18 AM

The BNP are the racist neo-fascists; UKIP are the "too extreme for the Tories" virulently Eurosceptic party, who still attempt to get elected to Europe anyway.

May 12, 2012, 08:43 PM	#1
CELTICEMPIRE Proud Kentuckian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The Commonwealth Posts: 3,106 Images: 2	BNP, does anyone take them seriously? So, the British National Party is an extreme party in the United Kingdom. They want to deport all non-whites from the country while at the same time saying that they don't hate non-white people. I used to live over in the UK and I never knew anyone who supported the BNP (most people I knew supported Plaid Cymru). So, re the BNP a serious force in British politics, or are they just some radical fringe group that has little public support? Also, Nick Griffin looks like a total nutcase, just saying. __________________ "The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid 'dens of crime' . . . but in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice." - C.S. Lewis, from The Screwtape Letters

May 13, 2012, 05:11 AM	#6
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May 13, 2012, 06:45 AM	#12
Quackers Mephistophel Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bellinzona Posts: 8,360	It depends on what you mean by serious. For one on the national stage they are not considered a threat to the established three parties in any form. In the recent local elections I believe they lost all their local councillors, so even for an unimportant job such as a councillor they fail to get any elected. A few years ago they managed to do quite well in the EU elections, which frightened the establishment into making a noise about immigration, since then the BNPs fortunes have fallen even further. Now I think they are having a fiscal crisis, they owe an awful amount of money which has led to a few members leaving and making another far-right party. __________________ One thing we are good at in English is having words for ways to die.-Neil deGrasse Tyson, on 'spaghettification' Looking at the poster again, I also like the way that the baby is cocking its head and looking away from the doctor, as if to show that this not merely a skeletal Moai-baby, it's a particularly aloof and disinterested skeletal Moai-baby.-Traitorfish

May 13, 2012, 10:00 AM	#13
Ajidica Mephistophel Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bellinzona Posts: 14,287	Didn't the UKIP get elected to the European Parliament or something like that a few years ago? __________________ One thing we are good at in English is having words for ways to die.-Neil deGrasse Tyson, on 'spaghettification' Looking at the poster again, I also like the way that the baby is cocking its head and looking away from the doctor, as if to show that this not merely a skeletal Moai-baby, it's a particularly aloof and disinterested skeletal Moai-baby.-Traitorfish

May 13, 2012, 10:35 AM	#15
Lord of Elves The Soft Tyrant Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hating Freedom Posts: 5,114	link to video. In answer to the thread's question, I'm going to go with no. __________________ "Did you just copy that from the Libertarian Bible or do you actually think in dreadfully ignorant and hackneyed clichés?" "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." - Honest Abe Lincoln

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BvBPL Yes, my avatar is awesome Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,949	The only use of keeping the BNP around is so folks can draw ready comparisons between the fascist overlords in V for Vendetta and McKellen 1995 movie adaptation of Richard III (which is brilliant, by the way) and the BNP.

May 12, 2012, 09:39 PM	#4
Ayn Rand Deity Join Date: May 2010 Location: UK Posts: 2,345	This thread will get shut down I'm afraid Celtic. The BNP are not evil as they are commonly made out to be, but most of us in Britain have long ago had our freedom of speech removed on this issue and the kind of people responsible for that will continue it even to internet space.

May 13, 2012, 06:39 AM	#11
Kaiserguard De enige echte! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Graafschap Holland Posts: 2,326	nevermind...

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May 14, 2012, 03:48 AM	#17
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May 14, 2012, 10:01 AM	#18
Ajidica Mephistophel Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bellinzona Posts: 14,287	I can't remember which is more nutty: the BNP or the UKIP? __________________ One thing we are good at in English is having words for ways to die.-Neil deGrasse Tyson, on 'spaghettification' Looking at the poster again, I also like the way that the baby is cocking its head and looking away from the doctor, as if to show that this not merely a skeletal Moai-baby, it's a particularly aloof and disinterested skeletal Moai-baby.-Traitorfish

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Arakhor Dremora Courtier Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK Posts: 9,531	The BNP are the racist neo-fascists; UKIP are the "too extreme for the Tories" virulently Eurosceptic party, who still attempt to get elected to Europe anyway. __________________ Dum inter homines sumus, colamus humanitatem. ("As long as we are among humans, let us be humane.") ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca "The church must be where there is need, and homosexuals have suffered innumerable discriminations. If the church doesn't free people from oppression, what purpose does it serve?" ~ Dr. Jacques Gaillot, Titular Bishop of Parthenia “What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?” ~ Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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