C2C: SVN discussion

[strategyonly]

Originally Posted by Hydromancerx

That's fine, but why did you change the tag too and not just the name?

I am going to quit doing that cause its getting to confusing now.

[Vokarya]

Originally Posted by strategyonly

Changed name of Whaling to Commercial Whaling per Hydro

I just want to say that I really disagree with this name change. I don't think early whale hunting was widespread enough that it necessitates being differentiated from the late Medieval/early Renaissance whaling that included long-range travel for this purpose. Also, I don't like adding adjectives. I think before the Renaissance and Industrial eras, tech names need to be as short as possible, and should try to be similar what someone living in that era would call it. That's my philosophy on tech names.

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Originally Posted by Vokarya

I just want to say that I really disagree with this name change. I don't think early whale hunting was widespread enough that it necessitates being differentiated from the late Medieval/early Renaissance whaling that included long-range travel for this purpose. Also, I don't like adding adjectives. I think before the Renaissance and Industrial eras, tech names need to be as short as possible, and should try to be similar what someone living in that era would call it. That's my philosophy on tech names.

Well whaling comes very early, probably prehistoric or ancient. Which reminds me (@Hydro) if harpoon is after boat fishing should I move the early whaling boats to there?

Btw, short history of fishing I read in Popular Mechanics yesterday

85,000 years ago - harpoon
42,000 years ago - nets and ate deep sea prey like sharks
23,000 years ago - fish hook
6,000 years ago - barbed hook

[Hydromancerx]

Originally Posted by Dancing Hoskuld

Well whaling comes very early, probably prehistoric or ancient. Which reminds me (@Hydro) if harpoon is after boat fishing should I move the early whaling boats to there?

Yes.

[strategyonly]

Can someone pls figure out what to do about that Mars Rock error, PLEASE!!

[Hydromancerx]

Originally Posted by strategyonly

Can someone pls figure out what to do about that Mars Rock error, PLEASE!!

DH needs to ether make it a map resource or make it into a building resource and make the moon rocks a building resource too.

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Updates
- Mars Rocks,
- Whaling Boats moved to harpoon making.
- Barbary Cousair tweaks (strength reduced and moved to Astronomy)

[Hydromancerx]

Updates
- Moved Prophets civic to Divination tech.

[Vokarya]

Originally Posted by Dancing Hoskuld

Well whaling comes very early, probably prehistoric or ancient.

We could say that about other technologies too, like Architecture. Where does that begin? If we start going down this road of qualifying every technology name, we are going to wind up with too many complex names and nothing simple. The constant usage of flavor-renaming every single unit in Realism Invictus is the reason why I flat-out refuse to play that mod. I'll scavenge it for ideas, but that's about it. I don't want to have to be constantly looking at Civilopedia entries for every single unit to try and understand what it is.

Maybe what we need to do is broaden the technology so that it covers large-scale fishing as well as whaling, like the cod fishing of the 800's. What about calling it Fish Harvesting?

[strategyonly]

Originally Posted by Vokarya

We could say that about other technologies too, like Architecture. Where does that begin? If we start going down this road of qualifying every technology name, we are going to wind up with too many complex names and nothing simple. The constant usage of flavor-renaming every single unit in Realism Invictus is the reason why I flat-out refuse to play that mod. I'll scavenge it for ideas, but that's about it. I don't want to have to be constantly looking at Civilopedia entries for every single unit to try and understand what it is.

Maybe what we need to do is broaden the technology so that it covers large-scale fishing as well as whaling, like the cod fishing of the 800's. What about calling it Fish Harvesting?

Now i am completely in agreement with this, things are really starting to get "re-defined" just a little too much, what does every one think about this stuff?
I never really look at RI that much, or really any other mod for that matter anymore.
I still believe "we" have the best Team, and i'd match "our" personnel even against Firaxis personnel, except the graphics people, which really we have none to compare. Infact i wrote them about that.

[Hydromancerx]

Updates
- Added +/- Pollution values to Terrain Features.

[JosEPh_II]

Current SVN is incompatible to save games. Gives this msg: Save format is not compatible due to missing class FEATURE_BARREL_CACTUS.

Placed it here so it would be seen sooner.

JosEPh

[strategyonly]

per=Vokarya
You can remove Mysticism from Sacrifice Cult, remove Trade from Road Building, remove City Planning from Architecture, remove Guilds from Chivalry, and remove Nuclear Pulse Propulsion from VASIMR Propulsion and it will not make one bit of difference to any research path you take. The one remaining tech in all cases except Chivalry can be moved to the <OrPreReqs>, and you can just delete Guilds from Chivalry. Thx

JosEPh_II, no need to place it here, you already have it in the bug/crash thread where it belongs, but thx.

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Originally Posted by JosEPh_II

Current SVN is incompatible to save games. Gives this msg: Save format is not compatible due to missing class FEATURE_BARREL_CACTUS.

Placed it here so it would be seen sooner.

JosEPh

That was many many updates ago and I said so at the time. I eventually figured out a way to do it so it all happens in the one go when we go into the v24 freeze.

[JosEPh_II]

I saw that when I reverted back to 2547 build so I could keep my current game going. I could start a new game but I can't get a game past Ren Era anymore before the next version or next major addition. And I'm still on Epic speed too. <sigh>

JosEPh

[strategyonly]

added... per MrAzure

Pictographs
Location: X14 Y15
Req Techs: Arithmetic AND The_Fire AND Hunting Tactics

Ideograms
Location: X20 Y3
Req Techs: Pictograms AND Sedentary Lifestyle

Calligraphy
Location: X30 , Y17
Req Techs: Literature AND Calendar AND Code of Laws AND Aristocracy

Changed ..

Mysticism
Req Techs: Ceremonial Burial AND Pictograms

Pottery
Req Techs: Agriculture AND Earth Oven AND Ideograms

Priesthood
Req Techs: Caste System AND Ideograms

Insurance
Req Techs: Currency AND Calligraphy

Aesthetics
Req Techs: Sericulture AND Geometry AND Calligraphy

[Hydromancerx]

Updates
- Fixed Automobile Factory.

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Update
- Set up mod for removal of features (date palms etc) all in one go so we reduce the impact on people playing using the SVN.

Edit
- reduce the chance of some of the newer food resources so that the older ones appear.

[strategyonly]

Possible NEXT Freeze period: 7 Jun - 11 Jun 12. I want it out on my Birthday, 13 Jun.

[Koshling]

Originally Posted by strategyonly

Possible NEXT Freeze period: 7 Jun - 11 Jun 12. I want it out on my Birthday, 13 Jun.

Ok, it's still another week before I can get back to c2c, so that's close enough that there is no chance at all I'll be able to get major multi map stuff done in the time, so I guess I'll put that on hold until the following cycle in that case.