Gods & Kings - HOF Support

Denniz · Jun 10, 2012, 07:27 AM

The Hall of Fame will not immediately be able to accept games from the Gods & Kings Expansion. There will be a certain amount of work to do before that will be possible.

Figure out the save file format and create a parser for it.
Update the HOF Website for G&K. (certain amout of design work there as well.)
Weather the initial bugs/expoilts that always seem to come up.

Of course, we first have to deal with the patch to the "Vanilla" Civ5 that will be coming out at the same time. (Beta version is not supported at this time.)

The process shouldn't take as long as it did for Vanilla but be aware that we don't have any information that anyone else. My first look will be went I get my copy, too.

I will try to give some kind of status occasionally. But the answer to "When will it be ready?" is going to be "When it is done." or "Soon" until we know more.

Design Plans:
Dropdowns to switch between versions: Vanilla, G&K and possibly "both"
Inclusion of existing DLC with G&K Version.

Denniz · Jun 19, 2012, 09:01 PM

Remember to Disable God & Kings content for HOF game submissions.

Salomo · Jun 29, 2012, 07:00 PM

When will it be ready?

Peets · Jun 30, 2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Salomo

When will it be ready?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denniz

"When it is done." "Soon"

Oh

Ozbenno · Jun 30, 2012, 01:52 AM

Patience grasshoppers!

Mesix · Jul 05, 2012, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denniz

Design Plans:
Dropdowns to switch between versions: Vanilla, G&K and possibly "both"
Inclusion of existing DLC with G&K Version.

I am eagerly awaiting this addition to HOF...especially the inclusion of existing DLC with G&K version.

I assume the dropdown for G&K will populate tables which do not compete with earlier Vanila games (before many exploits were nerfed)?

S.K. Ren · Jul 05, 2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mesix

I am eagerly awaiting this addition to HOF...especially the inclusion of existing DLC with G&K version.

I assume the dropdown for G&K will populate tables which do not compete with earlier Vanilla games (before many exploits were nerfed)?

Of course not... instead we'll make a whole new set of submissions with exploits and unpatched bugs from the expansion for us to compete against in the future :P

Though I do think that the tables should be mutually exclusive. Please make it so

Denniz · Jul 16, 2012, 05:07 PM

Got the ball rolling. New civs are all setup. Graphics still pending.

Figured out how to tell Vanilla and G&S saves apart. IF G&K expansion is present then that and the DLC will be categorized as the new expansion. Not sure whether the DLC without G&K should be allowed. Not really the same game. It looks like G&K includes all the DLC to date, so everyone should have it the same game at that point.

Going to add the dropdowns which will look somehting like this:

Vanilla + Mongolia
Gods & Kings

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Checking the Civ5 bug report, I see there is at least one major exploit. May have to wait for that to get patched before we start. Still quite a bit of work to do but it is mostly figured out.

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So the answer to the big question is: Soon. We're closer than last time you asked.

booyachris · Jul 17, 2012, 05:25 AM

woot woot, thanks Denniz.

S.K. Ren · Jul 17, 2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Denniz

It looks like G&K includes all the DLC to date, so everyone should have it the same game at that point.[/INDENT]

Uhh, not quite. It has Spain, that's it.

Denniz · Jul 18, 2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by S.K. Ren

Uhh, not quite. It has Spain, that's it.

It is hard to tell. I see all the same DLC folders inside the Expanision DLC folder's DLC folder.

MadDjinn · Jul 18, 2012, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denniz

It is hard to tell. I see all the same DLC folders inside the Expanision DLC folder's DLC folder.

that's due to the xpac changes for every unit. Those files aren't used unless someone also happens to have that DLC.

the G&K xml files cover everything, including a repeat of most (or all) vanilla files due to the changes.

S.K. Ren · Jul 20, 2012, 04:42 AM

Hurrrryyyyy uuuuup!!! [/whiny kid]
I'm starting to stockpile games to submit for my VVV :P

Peets · Jul 20, 2012, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by S.K. Ren

Hurrrryyyyy uuuuup!!! [/whiny kid]
I'm starting to stockpile games to submit for my VVV :P

Would be funny if a patch came out before the HoF is updated.
All your games will be excluded then

Denniz · Jul 20, 2012, 07:07 PM

Don't want to discourage anyone but with two exploits noted so far, we aren't going until those are fixed unless it takes a real long time. So whatever patch that is will be what we start accepting. Sorry.

Peets · Jul 21, 2012, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denniz

Don't want to discourage anyone but with two exploits noted so far, we aren't going until those are fixed unless it takes a real long time. So whatever patch that is will be what we start accepting. Sorry.

Two exploits? Damn. Well that gives me enough time to get into the VVV

Only three civs left and I'm in!

S.K. Ren · Jul 21, 2012, 06:28 AM

I have heard rumors of exploits but have yet to actually see it in action. Care to explain? I mean since you're not going to be admitting games until it's patched out, no harm in sharing is there?

booyachris · Jul 21, 2012, 07:59 AM

How about... H'wacha.... don't think its an exploit, but I bet they nerf it on the first patch. If you upgrade a catapult to a h'wacha, the korean trebuchet has no drawbacks, and is two attack less than the artillery. Way too powerful. I never figure out the real exploits on my own, but there has to be some exploit with religion, right?

S.K. Ren · Jul 21, 2012, 07:57 PM

Ah, ok I have heard about the H'wacha thing. But since its DLC it's kinda moot at this point.

Denniz · Jul 22, 2012, 07:30 AM

One is an infinite tech bug from the Civ5 Bugs forum. The other is RA related.

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Did some more work on adding expansion. Preview the main page here. We're working on getting icons that fit size-wise with the rest.

Still a fair amount to do including the behind the scenes code that does the rankings. Saving the hardest for last.

Jun 10, 2012, 07:27 AM	#1
Denniz That does not compute... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 9,440	Gods & Kings - HOF Support The Hall of Fame will not immediately be able to accept games from the Gods & Kings Expansion. There will be a certain amount of work to do before that will be possible. Figure out the save file format and create a parser for it. Update the HOF Website for G&K. (certain amout of design work there as well.) Weather the initial bugs/expoilts that always seem to come up. Of course, we first have to deal with the patch to the "Vanilla" Civ5 that will be coming out at the same time. (Beta version is not supported at this time.) The process shouldn't take as long as it did for Vanilla but be aware that we don't have any information that anyone else. My first look will be went I get my copy, too. I will try to give some kind of status occasionally. But the answer to "When will it be ready?" is going to be "When it is done." or "Soon" until we know more. Design Plans: Dropdowns to switch between versions: Vanilla, G&K and possibly "both" Inclusion of existing DLC with G&K Version. __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame \| Civ IV Hall of Fame \| Civ IV HOF Mod \| BUFFY\| Civ V Hall of Fame Last edited by Ozbenno; Jan 07, 2013 at 04:35 PM.

Jun 19, 2012, 09:01 PM	#2
Denniz That does not compute... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 9,440	Remember to Disable God & Kings content for HOF game submissions. __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame \| Civ IV Hall of Fame \| Civ IV HOF Mod \| BUFFY\| Civ V Hall of Fame

Jun 30, 2012, 01:52 AM	#5
Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 10,569	Patience grasshoppers! __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame Civ IV Hall of Fame Civ V Hall of Fame

Jul 16, 2012, 05:07 PM	#8
Denniz That does not compute... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 9,440	Got the ball rolling. New civs are all setup. Graphics still pending. Figured out how to tell Vanilla and G&S saves apart. IF G&K expansion is present then that and the DLC will be categorized as the new expansion. Not sure whether the DLC without G&K should be allowed. Not really the same game. It looks like G&K includes all the DLC to date, so everyone should have it the same game at that point. Going to add the dropdowns which will look somehting like this: Vanilla + Mongolia Gods & Kings ----------------- Checking the Civ5 bug report, I see there is at least one major exploit. May have to wait for that to get patched before we start. Still quite a bit of work to do but it is mostly figured out. ----------------- So the answer to the big question is: Soon. We're closer than last time you asked. __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame \| Civ IV Hall of Fame \| Civ IV HOF Mod \| BUFFY\| Civ V Hall of Fame

Jul 20, 2012, 07:07 PM	#15
Denniz That does not compute... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 9,440	Don't want to discourage anyone but with two exploits noted so far, we aren't going until those are fixed unless it takes a real long time. So whatever patch that is will be what we start accepting. Sorry. __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame \| Civ IV Hall of Fame \| Civ IV HOF Mod \| BUFFY\| Civ V Hall of Fame

Jun 29, 2012, 07:00 PM	#3
Salomo Warlord Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 214	When will it be ready?

Jul 17, 2012, 05:25 AM	#9
booyachris Chieftain Join Date: May 2012 Location: Iowa Posts: 36	woot woot, thanks Denniz.

Jul 20, 2012, 04:42 AM	#13
S.K. Ren Prince Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 348	Hurrrryyyyy uuuuup!!! [/whiny kid] I'm starting to stockpile games to submit for my VVV :P

Jul 21, 2012, 06:28 AM	#17
S.K. Ren Prince Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 348	I have heard rumors of exploits but have yet to actually see it in action. Care to explain? I mean since you're not going to be admitting games until it's patched out, no harm in sharing is there?

Jul 21, 2012, 07:59 AM	#18
booyachris Chieftain Join Date: May 2012 Location: Iowa Posts: 36	How about... H'wacha.... don't think its an exploit, but I bet they nerf it on the first patch. If you upgrade a catapult to a h'wacha, the korean trebuchet has no drawbacks, and is two attack less than the artillery. Way too powerful. I never figure out the real exploits on my own, but there has to be some exploit with religion, right?

Jul 21, 2012, 07:57 PM	#19
S.K. Ren Prince Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 348	Ah, ok I have heard about the H'wacha thing. But since its DLC it's kinda moot at this point.

Jul 22, 2012, 07:30 AM	#20
Denniz That does not compute... Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 9,440	One is an infinite tech bug from the Civ5 Bugs forum. The other is RA related. ---------- Did some more work on adding expansion. Preview the main page here. We're working on getting icons that fit size-wise with the rest. Still a fair amount to do including the behind the scenes code that does the rankings. Saving the hardest for last. __________________ Civ III Hall of Fame \| Civ IV Hall of Fame \| Civ IV HOF Mod \| BUFFY\| Civ V Hall of Fame

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