What was your first experience with the Three Kingdoms period?

Dknight99 · Oct 19, 2009, 12:14 AM

So I was thinking today about my first encounter with the Three Kingdoms period and was wondering how other people first experience this period. Also I was wondering about what keeps people interested in this period after so many years since their first encounter with this epic time period/story.

For me my first experience was playing a multi player game with my cousin when I was 10 years old on the snes and I think it was Romance of the Three Kingdoms 3 or something like that. I was hooked ever since and my interest of the series grew after watching the Mainland China TV series. You can also find it on youtube now with English subtitles now. It's just an amazing story about war but also on human nature.

I suppose the reason why I'm still so interested with the story is that despite all the warfare that happens in the story it really focuses on the human aspect of things and not do the usual good guy vs bad guy theme. There really is no bad guys, just different sides. Even though Cao Cao was known as a tyrant, a different way of seeing it is that he is trying to unify the land as quickly as possible. While Liu Bei although portray as the hero has many flaws and often did things that indirectly caused the deaths of so many (Changban, Yiling)

And of course there is Zhuge Liang in the novel. Even though the things he did was fictional in the RoTK series, it's just epic and it's real enough to make me wonder if it could have actually happened. Anyways just wondering about other's feelings on the Three Kingdoms period.

AnotherPacifist · Oct 19, 2009, 05:02 AM

I actually read the original novel in Chinese when I was about 14 but don't quote me on how much I really understood. Then came the Nintendo games in college and then now this mod. There was a AOE-like game on the PC before this mod that wasn't really successful (ugly graphics and clumsy mechanics) so I didn't really play it that much.

Raize · Oct 19, 2009, 07:22 AM

Dynasty Warriors, lol. Then I started following the mythology... and I'm not a big fan of Liu Bei, I gotta say. Sun Ce is much cooler, and Cao Cao's ruthlessness gets the job done.

Kenjister · Oct 19, 2009, 09:09 AM

I first encountered the time period while playing Dynasty Warriors at my cousins place five years ago. Since he lived about 8 hours away, I remembered it as a cool game, and then I promptly forgot about it.
What really got me interested in the time period was this mod. I found the mod when it had just came out, it looked really impressive, so I took it for a spin. Needless to say I was hooked, and unlike five years ago, I enjoy historical things much more. From there I purchased the novels, and ROTK XI.

I agree completely with Dknight on the human aspect of the story. I really love how the story isn't all war and fighting.

Sun Ce of Wu · Oct 20, 2009, 01:17 PM

Add another one for Dynasty Warriors!

My first experience with Three kingdoms history was Da Qiao legend mode in Dw 4 Xtreme legends...Now I've got all Dw games (excluded DW 3 xtreme legends) and ROTK X and XI and I'm going crazy to find an italian version of the Romance....I hope that the film "La battaglia dei tre regni" (The battle of the Three Kingdoms aka Red Cliff) will bring in Italy popularity to this historical period.

PS: I prefer the Wu kingdom, expecially Sun Ce (see the nickname

) and Da Qiao.

admtanaka · Oct 21, 2009, 04:36 PM

As a kid, I played a lot of Romance of the Three Kingdoms II (SNES). It's a shame they appear to have ended the series, because the only reason I got a playstation was to get the newer ones.

Kenjister · Oct 21, 2009, 10:09 PM

Well, they do have ROTK XI for the PC... it's quite fun!

stmartin · Oct 22, 2009, 08:18 PM

ROTK XI for PC is single-player. I can't understand why KOEI won't even implement the hotseat mode in ROTK XI. Imagine how fun it could be if our enemy is not the dumb AI but actual human.

Kenjister · Oct 22, 2009, 11:38 PM

I agree about the hotseat mode! It's such a shame... any gameplay value wouldn't be lost by having players see eachother's turns since you can always see the whole map anyways.

admtanaka · Oct 23, 2009, 07:23 PM

ROTK XI didn't come out in English on the PC until relatively recently.

Honestly though, I had more fun with VIII and X than with IX and XI. I think the officer mode really adds replay value to the game. Once I beat Romance IX with Kong Zhou, I didn't really touch the game again.

scholar123 · Nov 11, 2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stmartin

ROTK XI for PC is single-player. I can't understand why KOEI won't even implement the hotseat mode in ROTK XI. Imagine how fun it could be if our enemy is not the dumb AI but actual human.

It actually does, you can choose up to 8 factions and basically once you finish one factions turn it moves to the next. It doesn't have the name, but up to eight people can play the game. Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI doesn't have Fog of War.

My name is scholar, I'm known in a few places. I'm well versed in the entire scenario and have been studying the subject for over 3 years. I've read the novel, it's not fact. It's good if you want a rough outline, but it's not at all dissimilar from reading MacBeth and declaring you know all of English and Scottish history.

My first experience had to have been playing Romance of the Three Kingdoms VII and then playing DW4. I enjoyed it and quickly grabbed the other games and soon started reading the novel. Afterwords I set out to learn fact from fiction. Most of the novel was fiction, 99.99% of DW was fiction, and Romance of the Three Kingdoms had relatively historical scenarios but lacked a major portion of the actual country and lacked the thousands of minor factions that roamed the country-side and lacked Barbarian tribes. *sigh* anyways, Hello.

Kenjister · Nov 11, 2009, 10:53 PM

Hello scholar! Are you the same that frequents the Koei forums? I've done a bit of lurking there and learned quite alot. Especially that the topic of Liu Bei often starts a flame war

As for the RoTK "hotseat" mode (as I suppose you can call it), it doesn't really seem all that effective... especially since it requires that you physically have another RoTK player with you, and they are few are far between *sigh*

It'd be really interesting to see what opinions you have on the mod currently.

scholar123 · Nov 11, 2009, 11:49 PM

That's me. Yeah, that's true. But it's a start.

I just made a rather lengthy topic for some suggestions, you're welcome to look at it if you like.

mcwill123 · Jan 07, 2010, 07:38 AM

I had a rockin game on the Amiga back in the late 80s (I think it was) called Bandit Kings of Ancient China. I also had another KOEI game at the time called Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but as I remember Bandit Kings was much better. At least I certainly was more into it.

GoodGame · Feb 28, 2010, 01:53 PM

this mod

Tlc2011 · Apr 24, 2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenjister

I first encountered the time period while playing Dynasty Warriors at my cousins place five years ago. Since he lived about 8 hours away, I remembered it as a cool game, and then I promptly forgot about it.
What really got me interested in the time period was this mod. I found the mod when it had just came out, it looked really impressive, so I took it for a spin. Needless to say I was hooked, and unlike five years ago, I enjoy historical things much more. From there I purchased the novels, and ROTK XI.

I agree completely with Dknight on the human aspect of the story. I really love how the story isn't all war and fighting.

Hey i have RTK 11!

Tlc2011 · May 27, 2011, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raize

Dynasty Warriors, lol. Then I started following the mythology... and I'm not a big fan of Liu Bei, I gotta say. Sun Ce is much cooler, and Cao Cao's ruthlessness gets the job done.

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Habast · Apr 17, 2012, 11:49 PM

Dynasty Warriors got me interested in it, and the Romance of the Kingdoms game series made me fall in love, haha. I've also read a bit of the novel, not extensively so far, just parts I was more interested in. I may read all the way through one of these days.

I was actually planning on creating my own RTK mod and had created about half of the civs before I was pointed to this one. Looks incredible, much better than my attempt. XD

Downloading now!

freethink · Jun 24, 2012, 04:29 PM

The movie Red Cliff

Songkok · Sep 03, 2012, 08:25 PM

Started with RTK 2, then read the novel, continue with RTK3, 4, 7, 10, 11, DW...

Oct 19, 2009, 12:14 AM	#1
Dknight99 Chieftain Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 76	What was your first experience with the Three Kingdoms period? So I was thinking today about my first encounter with the Three Kingdoms period and was wondering how other people first experience this period. Also I was wondering about what keeps people interested in this period after so many years since their first encounter with this epic time period/story. For me my first experience was playing a multi player game with my cousin when I was 10 years old on the snes and I think it was Romance of the Three Kingdoms 3 or something like that. I was hooked ever since and my interest of the series grew after watching the Mainland China TV series. You can also find it on youtube now with English subtitles now. It's just an amazing story about war but also on human nature. I suppose the reason why I'm still so interested with the story is that despite all the warfare that happens in the story it really focuses on the human aspect of things and not do the usual good guy vs bad guy theme. There really is no bad guys, just different sides. Even though Cao Cao was known as a tyrant, a different way of seeing it is that he is trying to unify the land as quickly as possible. While Liu Bei although portray as the hero has many flaws and often did things that indirectly caused the deaths of so many (Changban, Yiling) And of course there is Zhuge Liang in the novel. Even though the things he did was fictional in the RoTK series, it's just epic and it's real enough to make me wonder if it could have actually happened. Anyways just wondering about other's feelings on the Three Kingdoms period.

Oct 19, 2009, 05:02 AM	#2
AnotherPacifist Deity Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,878	I actually read the original novel in Chinese when I was about 14 but don't quote me on how much I really understood. Then came the Nintendo games in college and then now this mod. There was a AOE-like game on the PC before this mod that wasn't really successful (ugly graphics and clumsy mechanics) so I didn't really play it that much. __________________ Ferengi Rule of Acquisition no. 34: War is good for business... only from a distance, the closer to the front lines, the less profitable it gets.

Oct 19, 2009, 09:09 AM	#4
Kenjister Swimmer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 464	I first encountered the time period while playing Dynasty Warriors at my cousins place five years ago. Since he lived about 8 hours away, I remembered it as a cool game, and then I promptly forgot about it. What really got me interested in the time period was this mod. I found the mod when it had just came out, it looked really impressive, so I took it for a spin. Needless to say I was hooked, and unlike five years ago, I enjoy historical things much more. From there I purchased the novels, and ROTK XI. I agree completely with Dknight on the human aspect of the story. I really love how the story isn't all war and fighting. __________________ Play The History of the Three Kingdoms - A total conversion mod covering China's Warring States period in the 1st Century, complete with several scenarios, new tech and unit trees, and a groundbreaking hero system. Civil wars have never yet been this fun. Last edited by Kenjister; Oct 20, 2009 at 03:49 PM. Reason: typo

Oct 20, 2009, 01:17 PM	#5
Sun Ce of Wu Chieftain Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Italy Posts: 18	Add another one for Dynasty Warriors! My first experience with Three kingdoms history was Da Qiao legend mode in Dw 4 Xtreme legends...Now I've got all Dw games (excluded DW 3 xtreme legends) and ROTK X and XI and I'm going crazy to find an italian version of the Romance....I hope that the film "La battaglia dei tre regni" (The battle of the Three Kingdoms aka Red Cliff) will bring in Italy popularity to this historical period. PS: I prefer the Wu kingdom, expecially Sun Ce (see the nickname) and Da Qiao. Last edited by Sun Ce of Wu; Oct 21, 2009 at 07:06 AM.

Oct 21, 2009, 04:36 PM	#6
admtanaka Warlord Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 277	As a kid, I played a lot of Romance of the Three Kingdoms II (SNES). It's a shame they appear to have ended the series, because the only reason I got a playstation was to get the newer ones. __________________ "Sometimes nothing's a pretty cool hand." -Cool Hand Luke

Oct 19, 2009, 07:22 AM	#3
Raize Warlord Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 162	Dynasty Warriors, lol. Then I started following the mythology... and I'm not a big fan of Liu Bei, I gotta say. Sun Ce is much cooler, and Cao Cao's ruthlessness gets the job done.

Oct 21, 2009, 10:09 PM	#7
Kenjister Swimmer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 464	Well, they do have ROTK XI for the PC... it's quite fun! __________________ Play The History of the Three Kingdoms - A total conversion mod covering China's Warring States period in the 1st Century, complete with several scenarios, new tech and unit trees, and a groundbreaking hero system. Civil wars have never yet been this fun.

Oct 22, 2009, 08:18 PM	#8
stmartin aka. poyuzhe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shanghai Posts: 640	ROTK XI for PC is single-player. I can't understand why KOEI won't even implement the hotseat mode in ROTK XI. Imagine how fun it could be if our enemy is not the dumb AI but actual human. __________________ [BTS] The History of Three Kingdoms V2.4 --- Nine Transformation! 08.18.09: the Ultimate Legion has Come. Also use CAR Mod: increase BTS speed by 15%

Oct 22, 2009, 11:38 PM	#9
Kenjister Swimmer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 464	I agree about the hotseat mode! It's such a shame... any gameplay value wouldn't be lost by having players see eachother's turns since you can always see the whole map anyways. __________________ Play The History of the Three Kingdoms - A total conversion mod covering China's Warring States period in the 1st Century, complete with several scenarios, new tech and unit trees, and a groundbreaking hero system. Civil wars have never yet been this fun.

Oct 23, 2009, 07:23 PM	#10
admtanaka Warlord Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 277	ROTK XI didn't come out in English on the PC until relatively recently. Honestly though, I had more fun with VIII and X than with IX and XI. I think the officer mode really adds replay value to the game. Once I beat Romance IX with Kong Zhou, I didn't really touch the game again. __________________ "Sometimes nothing's a pretty cool hand." -Cool Hand Luke

Nov 11, 2009, 10:53 PM	#12
Kenjister Swimmer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 464	Hello scholar! Are you the same that frequents the Koei forums? I've done a bit of lurking there and learned quite alot. Especially that the topic of Liu Bei often starts a flame war As for the RoTK "hotseat" mode (as I suppose you can call it), it doesn't really seem all that effective... especially since it requires that you physically have another RoTK player with you, and they are few are far between sigh It'd be really interesting to see what opinions you have on the mod currently. __________________ Play The History of the Three Kingdoms - A total conversion mod covering China's Warring States period in the 1st Century, complete with several scenarios, new tech and unit trees, and a groundbreaking hero system. Civil wars have never yet been this fun.

Nov 11, 2009, 11:49 PM	#13
scholar123 Chieftain Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 8	That's me. Yeah, that's true. But it's a start. I just made a rather lengthy topic for some suggestions, you're welcome to look at it if you like.

Jan 07, 2010, 07:38 AM	#14
mcwill123 Pretender to the Throne Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana USA Posts: 1,373	KOEI Bandit Kings of Ancient China I had a rockin game on the Amiga back in the late 80s (I think it was) called Bandit Kings of Ancient China. I also had another KOEI game at the time called Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but as I remember Bandit Kings was much better. At least I certainly was more into it.

Feb 28, 2010, 01:53 PM	#15
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Apr 17, 2012, 11:49 PM	#18
Habast Chieftain Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 6	Dynasty Warriors got me interested in it, and the Romance of the Kingdoms game series made me fall in love, haha. I've also read a bit of the novel, not extensively so far, just parts I was more interested in. I may read all the way through one of these days. I was actually planning on creating my own RTK mod and had created about half of the civs before I was pointed to this one. Looks incredible, much better than my attempt. XD Downloading now!

Jun 24, 2012, 04:29 PM	#19
freethink Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Great Light House Posts: 61	The movie Red Cliff

Sep 03, 2012, 08:25 PM	#20
Songkok Chieftain Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 60	Started with RTK 2, then read the novel, continue with RTK3, 4, 7, 10, 11, DW...

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