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Old Jul 03, 2012, 09:13 AM   #1
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Napoleonic Europe

I have played as the playable civs in this scenario before but want to know how I can play as either Denmark, Sweden, The Netherlands or Portugal.
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Old Jul 03, 2012, 10:39 AM   #2
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I have played as the playable civs in this scenario before but want to know how I can play as either Denmark, Sweden, The Netherlands or Portugal.
You must use the editor and enable the box "humanplayer" in the Scenario\Scenario Properties\Players setting.
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Old Jul 03, 2012, 11:39 AM   #3
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You must use the editor and enable the box "humanplayer" in the Scenario\Scenario Properties\Players setting.
I have tried doing that and it wont save so I have to save the map as another map in the scenario folder. But when I go into Civ to load the map it doesn't appear anywhere, what do I do now?
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Old Jul 03, 2012, 11:56 AM   #4
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Hi,

You must remove the writeprotection of the scenario file first, then you can edit and save it.

But if you do so, please make as safety copy first!
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 01:20 AM   #5
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I have tried doing that and it wont save so I have to save the map as another map in the scenario folder. But when I go into Civ to load the map it doesn't appear anywhere, what do I do now?
Are you using Windows7? Thats a problem I have. Putting a scenario in the scenario folder and having it disappear. I can play the game and edit but the folder is gone.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 02:07 AM   #6
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Are you all running your game through (x86),,, could be the problem.
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Old Jul 04, 2012, 04:57 AM   #7
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Probably the same problem as described here for Vista:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showth...03#post8032403

My general advice for Vista/Win7: never install under "C:\Program Files" or "C:\Program Files(x86)"... It will cause all kinds of problems and you need to be a real Windows guru in order to make it work again...
Installing into a different directory makes life much easier...
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 10:23 AM   #8
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it wont save so I have to save the map as another map in the scenario folder.
are you running folder system through Programme Files (x86).

I had all sorts of problems with files and games just being "very random" in every way possible. Then I got some very good advice.

[QUOTE=Puppeteer;10304803]Win7 doesn't get along with programs like Civ III that store settings and data under Program Files, so install Civ III in a different folder. I chose c:\Users\Public\Games\CivIII. Then both CivIII and Win7 are happy.

I followed this advice C:\Users\Public\games\CivIII\Conquests\... [as I have conquests]

- 90% of all Game problems were gone instantly... the other 10% is me... that probably wont change at a great speed.
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Old Jul 07, 2012, 10:52 AM   #9
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When Microsoft developed Windows Vista, they were intending to address one of the main issues with Windows XP, security. One of the ways they did this was to make it very difficult for programs to access your files, which obviously messes around with Civilization III. Assuming you are running default security settings, a program needs administrator permission in order to access C:/Program Files or C:/Program Files(x86). This is why, when installing new programs, you will get a popup saying "Do you want to allow this program to make changes to your computer?".

If you write a document in Microsoft Word, edit photos from your latest vacation, or even play a game of Civilization IV, these programs by default will save files to some destination in your user folder, which is of course allowed. However, if you try to make a Notepad file in the your Program Files folder, you will get a popup saying "Access is denied". This is because Notepad does not have the administrator permission required to access Program Files.

Of course, all of the programs mentioned above were made after Windows Vista, and made the User folder the default destination for saved files. Civilization III, however, was made back in the day when games (or scenarios) being saved directly within Program Files was all fine and good. This was the norm at the time for games, and Microsoft was well aware of that when they made Vista. To make sure that older games like Civilization III still worked Microsoft created a directory called VirtualStore. This folder, hidden deep inside the User directory, essentially emulates the Program Files folder. Thus, when you go to save your game, it is actually saving it within the VirtualStore, and when you load a game, it looks in the VirtualStore as well. You won't even notice unless you try to access the saves outside of the game. (Which had me banging my head against the wall the first time I tried to play a Succession Game on Windows 7).

So if you want to access the saves, you have three solutions:

1) Do what Lanzelot said and install the game outside of Program Files. This is the wisest and simplest option, but it is not possible if you have already installed the game.

2) Manually find your saves which should be in this location:
C:/Users/<UserName>/AppData*/Local/VirtualStore/<Publisher>/Civilization III/Conquests/Saves

<UserName> is your user name, and <Publisher> is the publisher of your copy, it should be either Infogrames Interactive, Atari or 2K Games.

*Do note that AppData is a hidden folder, and you will have to set Windows Explorer to show these.

3) Run Civilization III as an administrator. Your account has to be an administrator account to do this, obviously. Right-click on your Civilization III icon, and select the "Run as administrator" option with the little shield beside it. This will produce the "Do you want to allow this program to make changes to your computer?" popup, which you answer "yes" to. Civilization III will then start saving and loading files from the default Program Files destination.

Keep in mind though, that the editor is a separate program, which you will also have to give admin rights to. If you don't, then the editor will continue to save files in the VirtualStore, and your game will not find them. I suspect that this is your problem, Vaney and Registrar. For the game to be able to read scenario files, they must be in the folder corresponding to whether or not the game has admin rights.
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