Quick Answers / 'Newbie' Questions - Page 138

CKS · Jul 20, 2012, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elumas

Also when one builds a wonder that puts improvements in every city on the continent. Can I then sell the previously built improvements?

You can sell the improvements that you built before you got the wonder. If you built it yourself, you get the option to sell it; if it is wonder-built, you can't sell it. If you are playing for 100k, beware: free temples don't get culture doubling, so don't sell any temples you've built previously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darski:
I just had a situation where the RS did NOT work. So what are the rules for this thing.

Preserve Random Seed does guarantee the same results if you do exactly the same sequence of things. However, if you change the order in which you do things, the outcomes may be different. Additionally, talking to the AI accesses the RNG (deciding what to say to you), so if you talk to the AI a different number of times than you did the first time, you can change the results of everything after that.

MysteryX · Jul 20, 2012, 07:58 PM

With preserve random seed set, you only get the same results if you perform the actions requiring randomness in the same order.

Basically, the computer isn't really giving you a completely random number every time a random event occurs. It has essentially a pre-generated list of numbers, and every time a random event is called for, the computer just uses the next number on the list.

It's similar to using A Million Random Digits with 100,000 Normal Deviates.

With preserve random seed, when you reload, you start with the same list of numbers in the same place on that list where you left off. Without preserve random seed, you get a completely new list when you reload.

Marko30 · Jul 22, 2012, 02:30 AM

Hello

Newbie here with probably a stupid and obvious question. I was reading a few stories in which there was 31 Civilizations in one game. I thought it looked interesting and tried to set one up myself, but even when I select a huge map, the maximum amount of enemies that is possible is 15. How is it possible to set up a 31-Civ game?

Cheers.

Kirejara · Jul 22, 2012, 04:48 AM

Hi,

You can change the map size and number of nations in the editor and save it as a scenario.

r16 · Jul 25, 2012, 12:47 AM

is Marko30's case because he is using Vanilla ?

Rundown · Jul 28, 2012, 10:47 AM

Got a quick question. If an ai doesn't have access to a key resource such as saltpeter or horses per say will they be able to build units that need them such as musketmen or cavalry. I know the ais can trade resources with each other but I feel as if I have seen the ai build cavalry with no access to saltpeter and I am pretty sure they were not trading either.

Cyc · Jul 28, 2012, 11:00 AM

Their saltpeter resource may have dried up before you were able to verify this. They built their Cavs and lost their resource.

What makes you think they weren't trading?

Rundown · Jul 28, 2012, 11:04 AM

I don't know, maybe I overlooked it. Was just wondering if the ai had this advantage over the human player but I guess not. Thanks for verifying

Takhisis · Jul 28, 2012, 07:27 PM

They can have it from somewhere you can't see, have them traded (even from you, peace agreements in large games with many players lead to strrange resource exchanges), or, as Cyc posted, have built them and then lost the resource (by it being conquered by someone else, by the resource disappearing, or by a trade agreement ending).

Experiment 626 · Jul 28, 2012, 11:06 PM

Howdy, howdy!

It's been a few years since I posted here (or even played c3c for that matter).

I came back because I found a news item on the Internet stating that someone has been playing the same Civ II game for over ten years. He even posted some wild pictures of a post-apocalyptic future. (Evidently, there have been numerous Nuclear Wars and multiple instances of Global Warming).

I looked at the pictures, and got homesick for c3c. So here I am!

My question? Um . . . How do I play this game again?

(Yes, I'm kidding . . . but I'm sure that I'll have questions to post soon enough.)

Theov · Jul 29, 2012, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Experiment 626

Howdy, howdy!

It's been a few years since I posted here (or even played c3c for that matter).

I came back because I found a news item on the Internet stating that someone has been playing the same Civ II game for over ten years. He even posted some wild pictures of a post-apocalyptic future. (Evidently, there have been numerous Nuclear Wars and multiple instances of Global Warming).

I looked at the pictures, and got homesick for c3c. So here I am!

My question? Um . . . How do I play this game again?

(Yes, I'm kidding . . . but I'm sure that I'll have questions to post soon enough.)

hahaha
"post-apocalyptic" is my favorite word EEEVER!!

Civinator · Jul 29, 2012, 10:22 AM

post-apocalyptic is great!

Takhisis · Jul 29, 2012, 07:29 PM

Hmmh-hmh. That said, we can always have beta-testers for a SteamPunk scenario…

Kirejara · Aug 03, 2012, 10:57 AM

Hi,

I have got a slightly unusual problem.

My cat jumped on to my keyboard while I was playing.

And after that my unit order buttons are on the right side of the screen instead of lower side.

As I do not know what keys Helena has pressed: How do I get my buttons back to the lower side? I have not found anything in the manual.

Thanks!

Cyc · Aug 03, 2012, 11:37 AM

And they are in reverse order also. Hmmm. Unless you read them from the top, instead. Never mind.

darski · Aug 03, 2012, 11:55 AM

Hit your backspace key! been there and done that

Experiment 626 · Aug 03, 2012, 01:50 PM

* Post moved to MapFinder thread *

Kirejara · Aug 03, 2012, 02:10 PM

Thanks Darksi,

it works!

Takhisis · Aug 03, 2012, 02:25 PM

Experiment 626, maybe you should ask in the MapFinder thread.

CommandoBob · Aug 03, 2012, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Experiment 626

Howdy, howdy!

It's been a few years since I posted here (or even played c3c for that matter).

I came back because I found a news item on the Internet stating that someone has been playing the same Civ II game for over ten years. He even posted some wild pictures of a post-apocalyptic future. (Evidently, there have been numerous Nuclear Wars and multiple instances of Global Warming).

I looked at the pictures, and got homesick for c3c. So here I am!

My question? Um . . . How do I play this game again?

(Yes, I'm kidding . . . but I'm sure that I'll have questions to post soon enough.)

Uh.... surely you remember this: Experiment 626's TDG2 or 'Pinky and The Brain take over the world!'? Ring any bells? It's been, oh, say, 4 1/2 years since it got started and almost 3 years since you last posted.

Ready to pick up where we left off?

Ve hafe vays ofh may-king you plaay!

Jul 25, 2012, 12:47 AM	#2745
r16 Emperor Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,562	is Marko30's case because he is using Vanilla ? __________________ will be ignored by the order of mods . told ya ı was here for the game . short term signature change for a reminder we will scorn US into oblivion .

Jul 28, 2012, 11:00 AM	#2747
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	Their saltpeter resource may have dried up before you were able to verify this. They built their Cavs and lost their resource. What makes you think they weren't trading? __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes.

Jul 28, 2012, 07:27 PM	#2749
Takhisis Ostres! Crackòvie! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: up yours! Posts: 14,138	They can have it from somewhere you can't see, have them traded (even from you, peace agreements in large games with many players lead to strrange resource exchanges), or, as Cyc posted, have built them and then lost the resource (by it being conquered by someone else, by the resource disappearing, or by a trade agreement ending). __________________ [18:47:11] <@Lucy> i don't mean to imply that what's going on in tak's underpants isn't equally or more creepy [18:47:47] <@Lucy> constant mooing from this game Stormrage and Spacer One will always be missed. 'Well, there's spam, and then there's spam spam. You are an example of spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam spam spam and spam.' -choxorn, 12/03/2010 Sign-ups for Trimafia are open. The first mafia game to have three hosts! Three!

Jul 28, 2012, 11:06 PM	#2750
Experiment 626 Prince Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Escaped from Jumba's lab Posts: 407	Howdy, howdy! It's been a few years since I posted here (or even played c3c for that matter). I came back because I found a news item on the Internet stating that someone has been playing the same Civ II game for over ten years. He even posted some wild pictures of a post-apocalyptic future. (Evidently, there have been numerous Nuclear Wars and multiple instances of Global Warming). I looked at the pictures, and got homesick for c3c. So here I am! My question? Um . . . How do I play this game again? (Yes, I'm kidding . . . but I'm sure that I'll have questions to post soon enough.) __________________ TDG#1 is over, and we won! Regent level, SpaceShip Victory, Ship launched in 1888 A.D. Read the whole story here Do Not Meddle in the Affairs of Dragons . . . For you are crunchy, and good with ketchup!

Jul 29, 2012, 10:22 AM	#2752
Civinator Blue Lion Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,699	post-apocalyptic is great! __________________ Wise men discover tourism. War becomes obsolete.

Jul 20, 2012, 07:58 PM	#2742
MysteryX Warlord Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 171	With preserve random seed set, you only get the same results if you perform the actions requiring randomness in the same order. Basically, the computer isn't really giving you a completely random number every time a random event occurs. It has essentially a pre-generated list of numbers, and every time a random event is called for, the computer just uses the next number on the list. It's similar to using A Million Random Digits with 100,000 Normal Deviates. With preserve random seed, when you reload, you start with the same list of numbers in the same place on that list where you left off. Without preserve random seed, you get a completely new list when you reload.

Jul 22, 2012, 02:30 AM	#2743
Marko30 Chieftain Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1	Hello Newbie here with probably a stupid and obvious question. I was reading a few stories in which there was 31 Civilizations in one game. I thought it looked interesting and tried to set one up myself, but even when I select a huge map, the maximum amount of enemies that is possible is 15. How is it possible to set up a 31-Civ game? Cheers.

Jul 22, 2012, 04:48 AM	#2744
Kirejara Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 80	Hi, You can change the map size and number of nations in the editor and save it as a scenario.

Jul 28, 2012, 10:47 AM	#2746
Rundown Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: America Posts: 33	Got a quick question. If an ai doesn't have access to a key resource such as saltpeter or horses per say will they be able to build units that need them such as musketmen or cavalry. I know the ais can trade resources with each other but I feel as if I have seen the ai build cavalry with no access to saltpeter and I am pretty sure they were not trading either.

Jul 28, 2012, 11:04 AM	#2748
Rundown Chieftain Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: America Posts: 33	I don't know, maybe I overlooked it. Was just wondering if the ai had this advantage over the human player but I guess not. Thanks for verifying

Jul 29, 2012, 07:29 PM	#2753
Takhisis Ostres! Crackòvie! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: up yours! Posts: 14,138	Hmmh-hmh. That said, we can always have beta-testers for a SteamPunk scenario… __________________ [18:47:11] <@Lucy> i don't mean to imply that what's going on in tak's underpants isn't equally or more creepy [18:47:47] <@Lucy> constant mooing from this game Stormrage and Spacer One will always be missed. 'Well, there's spam, and then there's spam spam. You are an example of spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam spam spam and spam.' -choxorn, 12/03/2010 Sign-ups for Trimafia are open. The first mafia game to have three hosts! Three!

Aug 03, 2012, 10:57 AM	#2754
Kirejara Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 80	Hi, I have got a slightly unusual problem. My cat jumped on to my keyboard while I was playing. And after that my unit order buttons are on the right side of the screen instead of lower side. As I do not know what keys Helena has pressed: How do I get my buttons back to the lower side? I have not found anything in the manual. Thanks! Last edited by Kirejara; Aug 03, 2012 at 11:00 AM. Reason: wrong picture

Aug 03, 2012, 11:37 AM	#2755
Cyc Looking for the door... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Behind you Posts: 14,735	And they are in reverse order also. Hmmm. Unless you read them from the top, instead. Never mind. __________________ There is a town in north Ontario, With dream comfort memory to spare, And in my mind I still need a place to go, All my changes were there. Blue, blue windows behind the stars, Yellow moon on the rise, Big birds flying across the sky, Throwing shadows on our eyes.

Aug 03, 2012, 11:55 AM	#2756
darski Regent in Training Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ontario, Can. Posts: 2,922	Hit your backspace key! been there and done that __________________ *"Freedom has ceased to be a birthright; it has come to mean whatever we are still permitted to do." ... Joe Sobran*

Aug 03, 2012, 01:50 PM	#2757
Experiment 626 Prince Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Escaped from Jumba's lab Posts: 407	* Post moved to MapFinder thread * __________________ TDG#1 is over, and we won! Regent level, SpaceShip Victory, Ship launched in 1888 A.D. Read the whole story here Do Not Meddle in the Affairs of Dragons . . . For you are crunchy, and good with ketchup! Last edited by Experiment 626; Aug 03, 2012 at 04:09 PM. Reason: moved post to proper thread

Aug 03, 2012, 02:10 PM	#2758
Kirejara Chieftain Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 80	Thanks Darksi, it works!

Aug 03, 2012, 02:25 PM	#2759
Takhisis Ostres! Crackòvie! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: up yours! Posts: 14,138	Experiment 626, maybe you should ask in the MapFinder thread. __________________ [18:47:11] <@Lucy> i don't mean to imply that what's going on in tak's underpants isn't equally or more creepy [18:47:47] <@Lucy> constant mooing from this game Stormrage and Spacer One will always be missed. 'Well, there's spam, and then there's spam spam. You are an example of spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam spam spam and spam.' -choxorn, 12/03/2010 Sign-ups for Trimafia are open. The first mafia game to have three hosts! Three!

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