What are the 3 'worst' Civs

[TimelessLegend]

Germany is really, really good.

I'd say America, Polynesia, and the Dutch

[Tachii]

I find the CS threaten penalty to be pretty negligible (I always click you'll pay for this). Not once was it strong enough for the AI to cancel a DoF and backstab or anything. It might make neutral civs more inclined to war but if they're on the other side of the map then it's pretty unlikely still. I had in one game where Japan who had the strongest military power was bullying like 3+ CS under my protection and I said you'll pay for this for all 3 of them. It was hilarious and better yet I was still friends with him, lol.

Oh and I'm pretty sure Siam's UA have a hidden +10XP bonus for military units given by CS even though it doesn't say it on the description. I kept getting +25EXP units in one Siam game from a couple of military CS.

[PhilBowles]

Originally Posted by Tachii

I find the CS threaten penalty to be pretty negligible (I always click you'll pay for this). Not once was it strong enough for the AI to cancel a DoF and backstab or anything. It might make neutral civs more inclined to war but if they're on the other side of the map then it's pretty unlikely still. I had in one game where Japan who had the strongest military power was bullying like 3+ CS under my protection and I said you'll pay for this for all 3 of them. It was hilarious and better yet I was still friends with him, lol.

Oh and I'm pretty sure Siam's UA have a hidden +10XP bonus for military units given by CS even though it doesn't say it on the description. I kept getting +25EXP units in one Siam game from a couple of military CS.

Hmm, have you had +10 XP units before the CS has a barracks? I'll have to check on that.

Usually I pledge to protect the CSes near me - any civ in a position to bully them is usually close enough to threaten me. I've certainly had wars because of it - with the Ottomans in one game.

[Tachii]

Pretty sure it happens to CS without a barrack as well, though I don't want to play another Siam game to verify this.

[PhilBowles]

Originally Posted by Tachii

Pretty sure it happens to CS without a barrack as well, though I don't want to play another Siam game to verify this.

I'll no doubt play one soon enough - I play Siam most often, though I'm still trying to find a game that gives me a good feel for Sweden.