What's A Nomadic World Look Like?

Blue Monkey · Oct 28, 2007, 07:58 PM

Let's discuss the basics of the kind of world/map a strictly nomads scenario ought to be played on. Topics could include geography, resources, terrain types, etc.

Virote_Considon · Oct 29, 2007, 04:09 AM

I think there should be a heavy emphasis on Deserts and "Steppes", and possibly Hills and Mountains, too.

Resource-wise, I think the map should have more so than normal, but also they should be spread in a way so that you won't get too many within the borders.

Blue Monkey · Oct 29, 2007, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Virote_Considon

Resource-wise, I think the map should have more so than normal, but also they should be spread in a way so that you won't get too many within the borders.

What do you think about the idea of resources that are quickly exhausted but with a frequent appearance rate, to simulate things like migrating herds or seasonal plants? Such an idea might even work for metals - one way early tribes gained access to iron was through meteor falls.

Virote_Considon · Oct 29, 2007, 04:36 AM

That, of course, sounds good. I was just stating what the original start up should be.

Moosezilla · Mar 18, 2008, 11:20 AM

Multi tile oasis would seem to fit?

Blue Monkey · Mar 18, 2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Moosezilla

Multi tile oasis would seem to fit?

And that would do...?

Moosezilla · Mar 31, 2008, 05:16 PM

That would allow for resupply and trade route crossings. In a desert environment,routes that don't take into account moist resources are suicide. If one were to settle seasonally one could not do it w/o water. Anyways I would think it would break up monotony.

Blue Monkey · Mar 31, 2008, 06:41 PM

There's no need to make it multi-tile however. There are other options - like more than one "oasis" type resource (wadi & cacti come to mind immediately). In my Rise of Asia map I also included one tile "flood plain" locations, which end up appearing like the surrounding desert while still giving their own terrain benefits. That would allow for longer -term settlements.

timerover51 · Apr 11, 2008, 04:39 AM

You would also need to have game appearing in the plains and grasslands as well as forest. The buffalo were the mainstay of the Plains Indians even before the horse arrived here, and you have the Lapps following the migrating reindeer. You would need to increase the food value of game to reflect its importance to nomads, as well as shields and gold. Again, the Plains Indians made an immense number of items from the buffalo hide, same with the deer and the Eastern Indians.

AndrewG · Aug 24, 2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Monkey

What do you think about the idea of resources that are quickly exhausted but with a frequent appearance rate, to simulate things like migrating herds or seasonal plants? Such an idea might even work for metals - one way early tribes gained access to iron was through meteor falls.

Great idea! May I use this in my Alaska mod?

Blue Monkey · Aug 25, 2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

Great idea! May I use this in my Alaska mod?

Ideas are free; implementation is priceless.

Oct 28, 2007, 07:58 PM	#1
Blue Monkey nobody Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Goose Town Posts: 9,500 Images: 3	What's A Nomadic World Look Like? Let's discuss the basics of the kind of world/map a strictly nomads scenario ought to be played on. Topics could include geography, resources, terrain types, etc. __________________ ... in every game and con there's always an opponent, and there's always a victim. The trick is to know when you're the latter, so you can become the former. - G. Ritchie The Many Worlds of Steampunk : Dark Continent

Oct 29, 2007, 04:09 AM	#2
Virote_Considon The Great Dictator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Skaville UK Reputation: 1 Posts: 8,672	I think there should be a heavy emphasis on Deserts and "Steppes", and possibly Hills and Mountains, too. Resource-wise, I think the map should have more so than normal, but also they should be spread in a way so that you won't get too many within the borders. __________________ Units: Complete\|Previews/Questions\|Requests - Modern/Ancient\| My Tech Icons Scenarios: AncientGreece\|Indo-Greeks\|Industrial Espionage\|Escape From Zombie Island 0\|Cold War Africa/Test\|WH40K Team *A Guy Can Dream...* UK Civfanatics Meet: A chance to shake Virote's hand on Saturday 18th of August \| <Warning!> - Poster is armed with rolls of tape! It was a Friday... Afternoon \| My TV Show - The Flat \| News, Science, Entertainment, Politics

Oct 29, 2007, 04:36 AM	#4
Virote_Considon The Great Dictator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Skaville UK Reputation: 1 Posts: 8,672	That, of course, sounds good. I was just stating what the original start up should be. __________________ Units: Complete\|Previews/Questions\|Requests - Modern/Ancient\| My Tech Icons Scenarios: AncientGreece\|Indo-Greeks\|Industrial Espionage\|Escape From Zombie Island 0\|Cold War Africa/Test\|WH40K Team *A Guy Can Dream...* UK Civfanatics Meet: A chance to shake Virote's hand on Saturday 18th of August \| <Warning!> - Poster is armed with rolls of tape! It was a Friday... Afternoon \| My TV Show - The Flat \| News, Science, Entertainment, Politics

Mar 31, 2008, 06:41 PM	#8
Blue Monkey nobody Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Goose Town Posts: 9,500 Images: 3	There's no need to make it multi-tile however. There are other options - like more than one "oasis" type resource (wadi & cacti come to mind immediately). In my Rise of Asia map I also included one tile "flood plain" locations, which end up appearing like the surrounding desert while still giving their own terrain benefits. That would allow for longer -term settlements. __________________ ... in every game and con there's always an opponent, and there's always a victim. The trick is to know when you're the latter, so you can become the former. - G. Ritchie The Many Worlds of Steampunk : Dark Continent

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Moosezilla Grognard Warlord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canton of Roaring Waste Posts: 951	That would allow for resupply and trade route crossings. In a desert environment,routes that don't take into account moist resources are suicide. If one were to settle seasonally one could not do it w/o water. Anyways I would think it would break up monotony.

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timerover51 Deity Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago area in Illinois Posts: 2,362	You would also need to have game appearing in the plains and grasslands as well as forest. The buffalo were the mainstay of the Plains Indians even before the horse arrived here, and you have the Lapps following the migrating reindeer. You would need to increase the food value of game to reflect its importance to nomads, as well as shields and gold. Again, the Plains Indians made an immense number of items from the buffalo hide, same with the deer and the Eastern Indians.

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