Another OCC Game

ok here is a promising OCC start.

specs:
deity
small map
raging hoardes
7 civs
all else random
3800bc
Alphabet
Bronze Working
Ceremonial Burial
1 non archer
Whale
Gold
Ox
???-still dark..maybe nothing

Game started on 2.42 but I think I'll play with MGE.The civ is Chinese(torquoise) so contact will be important.Avoiding research penalties could be a pain

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let me try that again

Great place to start.

Be sure to keep us updated!

Ya well i had a @#$%ing freeze and lost my beautiful log.Huts,techs,contact..all was lost.Fortunately I saved the game but i did not save the log so I can't even do a recover.I remeber some of the important stuff and will pick it up where I left off.

I got alot of units from huts.Alot of nons.These were later disbanded for Collosus after a "send home" from an alliance break.Yes,thats right alliances.And..I have been getting gifts.It can be done with MGE


Monarchy 3250bc
Republic-1250bc
Democracy-325bc

Collosus-2200-bc
Cope¡¯s-575bc
Shake¡¯s-350bc

Trade???-between 2000bc and 1500bc
Construction???-around 1100bc
Sanitation-425bc

routes(iirc)
1-1450bc
2-1400bc
3-1050bc

size 12-725bc(iirc)
size 21-75bc


425-Sanitation
400-hides to Little Bighorn(demanded)316 bonus
Sioux gift 150
375-Democracy
hides to Little Bighorn(demanded)164 bonus
350-Shake¡¯s
325-Democracy-Instant Revolution
300-¡±we love¡± size 12
tech gifting
French declare war
Russia gifts 150
275-sewer system
declare war on Egypt for Sioux-recieve 150
250-University
225-bank
ceasefire with Egypt
200-hides caravan
150-Theory of Gravity
hides caravan
75-Economics
size 21
50-end ¡°we love¡± size 22
hides caravan
25-peace with France
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AD1-Bridge Building

I have only played OCC once before, but I downloaded your save game to give it another chance. Didn't go well at all.

The first hut I entered gave me barbarians. As I then compared my dates to yours I could see I was just falling further behind.

I cannot see how OCC could possibly work at deity level. No matter how fast you discover the AI civs will be right behind you. When it comes to spaceship building you won't stand a chance against their many cities.

Another problem is that the resources won't keep up with a discovery rate like that. Compared to your dates I was falling behind a lot because I had to sit and wait for buildings/wonders to finish.

well.I'm looking good for a pre 1500s landing....so far.

I don't wait for things to be built.I buy them.
All wonders,cept Collosus are built with caravans.You rush them.It is cheaper and faster than rushing a wonder.A city can produce 50 sheilds every turn or every 2nd turn if you have the gold.

Another little rule:if a new commodity becomes available,drop everything and build it.

the game to 500 ad.Its going very well.

Isaac¡¯s-140AD

Refrigeration-400ad


40-Chemistry
60-trade Sioux for Gunpowder-they cancel alliance
gift all cept French who declare war immediately when contacted
80-Navigation
hides to Little Bighorn(demanded)212
peace with French
120-Explosives
2 hides to Bighorn@109
disband trireme
140-Sir isaac¡¯s
Russia gifts 50
French declare war
160-Physics
ceasefire with French
180-build university
200-Feudalism
240-Magnetism
stock exchange
280-Metallurgy
cloth caravan
peace with Egypt
320-Electricity
salt caravan
340-galleon
360-Steam Engine
Russians and Babs cancel alliances
380-Engineer
400-Refrigeration
420-diplomat
440-Railroad
engineer
460-supermarket
480-Chivalry
much tech gifting after depleting treasury
500-start ¡°we love¡± size 20

moving right along

pre 1500s may have been overly optimistic

Darwin¡¯s 760ad

Automobile-700ad


520-Industrialization
560-The Corporation
cloth to Thebes (demanded)280-salt 112
580-Refining
600-beads Freight
end ¡°we love¡± 25
sell sewer
620-Steel
sell aquaduct
660-Combustion
700-Automobile
720-superhighway
musk ox>oasis
740-Electronics
760-Darwins>Conscription>Leadership
780-Mass Production
beads to Sparta(demanded)308
Greeks declare war
800-Atomic Theory
oil freight
820-gems freight
840-Tactics-diplomat
bribe Greek Knight 200
860-bribe Greek cannon 186
disband knight
880-Nuclear Fission
alpine troop
peace with Greeks
oil to Little Bighorn-196-gems 196
900-Machine tools-
920-factory
940-Nuclear Power
960-silver freight
980-Miniaturization
1000-salt freight

1500 and all is well...I think.

I've got a minimum of 12 turns till launch.Probably 15 at least.Gold is tight and production is forcing me to buy/disband my way to a granary for structurals.
There are barbs coming in and I hope to bribe them for disbanding and/or defense.

There is a barb caravel sitting in a pond.Its been there for over 1000 years.



Apollo-1320ad

Computers-1020-ad
Space Flight-1260ad

1020-Computers
1040-research lab
1060-Flight
silver to Athens(demanded)265 bonus
1080-Nuclear Plant
1100-Radio
1120-offshore platform
1140-Advanced Flight
gold freight
1160-silver freight
1180-The Laser
salt to Little Bighorn 103 bonus
1200-bribe Greek cannon 238
1220-Rocketry
1260-Space Flight
1300-Plastics-
trade Sioux for Polytheism
1320-Apollo
1340-Superconductor
silver to Thebes (demanded) 392
cloth(demanded) 392
gold 157
1360-Fusion Power
sell research lab
1380-sell university
1400-sell library
Egypt sneak attack
1420-disband galleon
1440-disband settler
bribe Egyptian cannon 132
1460-disband cannon
1500-bribe Greek diplomat 232
disband cannon

The Eagle has landed.

I just barely managed to build in the minimum amount of turns.The last turn I had just an alpine and a dip left.15-1-1-1-1-1 launched in 1620ad arriving in 1656 ad.Those 36 turns were busy as the ai tryed hard but failed

this is the barb uprising that actually helped keep the ai civs at bay and gave me alot of cheap units.

1510-bribe barb musket 61
1520-bribe barb musket 61
1560-pay 50 to Egypt for ceasefire-gift Computers
1570-bribe barb musket 61
1590-bribe barb musket
1600-bribe barb cannon 82
1610-sell market
1620-15-1-1-1-1-1...Launch! ETA 1656AD
1 alpine and 1 dip left.
21-barracks
bribe Sioux diplomat 232
barb musket 61
22-alpine troop
bribe barb cannon 82
Sioux diplomat 229
Sioux decalre war
23-aloine troop
massive barb uprising
barb musket 61
24-city walls
musket 61
cannon 82
25-coastal fort
2 muskets@61
26-SAM
Greek sneak attack
27-alpine troop
ai trying hard..killing and bribing dips..bribing barbs..fighting pollution
28-barb cannon 82
steal Amphibious Warfare from Greece
29-airport
30-fighter
31-fighter
32-artillery
33-fighter
34-submarine
35-submarine
36-marines
some other civs declare war
37-market
barb leader 150
38-mass transit
40-alpine troop
41-peace with Babs..didn¡¯t know I was at war with them..safe to assume all units hostile
peace with Greeks
42-peace with Sioux
bribe Sioux dip 232
alpine troop
43-Sioux dip 232
45-SDI
46-French dip 103
48=Greeks sneak attack
50-bribe Sioux marine 603
51-cruise missile
Sioux Sneak attack
53-artillery
54-alpine troop
1656-arrival AC