After probably 20 solid attempts I finally beat diety level for the first time!! Im pretty excited.
As Babylon on Tiny (4 Civs) Pangea (diety ofc) Standard speed, settings etc.
Vs
Zulus
Sonhai
Poland
Won a science victory with a tall 3 city strategy.
-I went straight to writing for the scientist, put down the academy and rushed to hanging gardens. With the early increased science it seemed like noone was close to beating me to it. From there, construction for composite defense, to civil service and then education etc for uni's, so that i could start spamming great scientists.
-Full tradition, 1 patronage, into rationalism, finished rationalism after a few freedom idealogy techs so that I could get the free tech late in the game. Ignored tourism and faith totally.
-only signed 1 research agreement very late in the game to rush for my last spaceship tech.
-Hardly used trade routes with other civs cause i was always attacked by my neighbors and then eventually they got embagoed. Caravans were for food to my other two cities from my cap was pretty important. I didnt get them that early though. Probably around the time of uni's. Then production going in when building spaceship parts and important wonders. I think i only had 4 or 5 world wonders. Gardens, Forbidden Palace, Porc Tower, Hubble, and thats it.
- 5 first scientists built academies then bulbed all techs after.
- Was under attack constantly by shaka and sonhai, sometimes both at once. but my front that shaka was on had great natural choke points. My cap was behind a mountain. So ranged units killed him as he went in. Constant swarms of troops. If i didnt have the chokepoints I would of lost.
-I think the most important thing with science on diety is that you have to block the AI from getting a diplo win. I see no way to do it before they will get world leader if you ignore delegates. I used my only great engi on forbidden palace.for the extra 2. Kept a spy in a close city state all game. Did city state quests and then finally got world ideaology and world religion that askia spread to me. World leader went through probably 4 times before I won. I was tied with someone at the end with 17 delegates and 20 won it.
-Big Cities to support specialists are important. All artists and writers went to culture and golden ages. Musicians pretty much useless but i used the specialists for science.
-I never took a city or even really went into sometimes territory. played defensive with archers and later artillary with musket/rifle/infantry protecting them. Noone nuked me cause I beat them to nukes and then blocked it with diplo. bribed the AI to start wars ALOT. A few times saving myself when i was getting swarmed by bribing a war with the guy attacking me and then asking for peace after.
I probably got pretty lucky with the starting position of my cap, but damn this felt good.
I do think babylon is better than korea for science wins on high level/ The specialist bonus and tech boost from buildings from korea is great but their two units are pretty bad. The improved archer and walls really help you out early on when your weak and dont have a tech lead yet. Plus the early academy gives you the freedom to rush something you normally wouldn't get and the 50% scientist bonus is huge on top of all the buildings and culture techs possible. I had everything in the game for scientist production except a sweeden friendship boost and leaning tower of pisa.
As Babylon on Tiny (4 Civs) Pangea (diety ofc) Standard speed, settings etc.
Vs
Zulus
Sonhai
Poland
Won a science victory with a tall 3 city strategy.
-I went straight to writing for the scientist, put down the academy and rushed to hanging gardens. With the early increased science it seemed like noone was close to beating me to it. From there, construction for composite defense, to civil service and then education etc for uni's, so that i could start spamming great scientists.
-Full tradition, 1 patronage, into rationalism, finished rationalism after a few freedom idealogy techs so that I could get the free tech late in the game. Ignored tourism and faith totally.
-only signed 1 research agreement very late in the game to rush for my last spaceship tech.
-Hardly used trade routes with other civs cause i was always attacked by my neighbors and then eventually they got embagoed. Caravans were for food to my other two cities from my cap was pretty important. I didnt get them that early though. Probably around the time of uni's. Then production going in when building spaceship parts and important wonders. I think i only had 4 or 5 world wonders. Gardens, Forbidden Palace, Porc Tower, Hubble, and thats it.
- 5 first scientists built academies then bulbed all techs after.
- Was under attack constantly by shaka and sonhai, sometimes both at once. but my front that shaka was on had great natural choke points. My cap was behind a mountain. So ranged units killed him as he went in. Constant swarms of troops. If i didnt have the chokepoints I would of lost.
-I think the most important thing with science on diety is that you have to block the AI from getting a diplo win. I see no way to do it before they will get world leader if you ignore delegates. I used my only great engi on forbidden palace.for the extra 2. Kept a spy in a close city state all game. Did city state quests and then finally got world ideaology and world religion that askia spread to me. World leader went through probably 4 times before I won. I was tied with someone at the end with 17 delegates and 20 won it.
-Big Cities to support specialists are important. All artists and writers went to culture and golden ages. Musicians pretty much useless but i used the specialists for science.
-I never took a city or even really went into sometimes territory. played defensive with archers and later artillary with musket/rifle/infantry protecting them. Noone nuked me cause I beat them to nukes and then blocked it with diplo. bribed the AI to start wars ALOT. A few times saving myself when i was getting swarmed by bribing a war with the guy attacking me and then asking for peace after.
I probably got pretty lucky with the starting position of my cap, but damn this felt good.
I do think babylon is better than korea for science wins on high level/ The specialist bonus and tech boost from buildings from korea is great but their two units are pretty bad. The improved archer and walls really help you out early on when your weak and dont have a tech lead yet. Plus the early academy gives you the freedom to rush something you normally wouldn't get and the 50% scientist bonus is huge on top of all the buildings and culture techs possible. I had everything in the game for scientist production except a sweeden friendship boost and leaning tower of pisa.