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From Civstats I would say it is pretty much obvious that Gandhi build the Oracle. Score drop from 138 to 126 right before the end of turn and then score rise to 166 gives it away quite nicely. What I really would like to know though is what technology did they select. Since no new religions were found I would assume Metal Casting. Anything with less beakers makes really no sense and it would give them a nice opportunity to build the Colossus way before anyone else.
 
From Civstats I would say it is pretty much obvious that Gandhi build the Oracle. Score drop from 138 to 126 right before the end of turn and then score rise to 166 gives it away quite nicely. What I really would like to know though is what technology did they select. Since no new religions were found I would assume Metal Casting. Anything with less beakers makes really no sense and it would give them a nice opportunity to build the Colossus way before anyone else.

I agree completely with the assessment...MC is a great early tech to grab for the reasons you stated, but also for the 25% hammer boost you get for the balance of the game with forges. If you think about JUST the additional hammers, even 50 turns with 4 extra hammers in 1 city is 200 hammers. That is 1 extra settler + escort. If you are able to multiply it over additional cities, it really starts to add up.
 
How can we possibly work 3 Gem mines and be frikkin LAST in GNP???? And not even close. :( What must the other starting locations look like?

EDIT: OOPS, why don't we have that 3rd mine up yet? I thought it was scheduled already?
 
How can we possibly work 3 Gem mines and be frikkin LAST in GNP???? And not even close. :( What must the other starting locations look like?

EDIT: OOPS, why don't we have that 3rd mine up yet? I thought it was scheduled already?


My guess is that everyone has high comerce tiles like gold, gems & silver, some teams might be slightly in commerce advantage with seafood tiles on top of the luxuries. But if we take into account religions, wonders etc, we will see that as soon as we work the third gem we will be roughly on par with everyone else.

Another thing to consider as well is that the last demog screen was taken while teching hunting, a first tier tech with no modifier. Pottery has 1.6 modifier, so just by switching techs our GNP would greatly increase!
 
Other GPT factors:
1) Libraries. A lib in a 2 gems capital provides 6 beakers/turn without adding scientists, further multiplied by the tech bonus.
2) Wonders: stonehenge adds +10 gpt with 2 cities, oracle adds +8

But that civ that's doing 79 is interesting. Fourth commerce tile (on the mainland, probably)? Financial cottages? Open borders and trade with 2 other players?
 
This would probably be a good place to put all the analysis stuff from Demographics.

Soldiers for turn 107:

Amazons: 234000
Merlot: 209000
Mavericks: 129000
Quatronia: 128000

Sirious and CDZ thus have both between 129000 and 186000 soldiers (157500 average for remaining two). Do we have any idea who has more power?

Not much power growth last turn for anyone. Probably just population growth.
 


eyeballing a rough estimate from this graph, I'd put CDZ at 160000-165000 soldiers.

And them having slightly less pop means they have slightly more units
 
Here's the news on the CDZ front. I sent a PM to their regular turnplayer and here's the response:

socralynnek said:
slaze said:
Did you get our email?

Sorry, read it only after your reminder, as normally, I shouldn't be the one checking the mail. I put it up for discussion.
 
Sorry, read it only after your reminder, as normally, I shouldn't be the one checking the mail. I put it up for discussion.

He's not the person to respond? Put it up for discussion?

I hope that they expand their bureaucracy, to meet the needs of their expanding bureaucracy.

Monarchy forever! :)
 
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