Since the patch has fixed some RA issues I have a couple clarity questions.
I recently had a fizzled RA in my last game and I now realize it isnt a bug but it happens when you do something to anger who you had the agreement with. In this case Theodora denounced me 2 turns before the RA was to complete. I didnt steal a tech, I was going OCC and she didnt covet my lands yet, I generally didnt do anything to make here angry. Her friend definitions were typical: had an embassy, denounced the same leader, declaration of freindship, friends with an enemy (happened before our DoF--shouldnt break an RA amount i dont think). But the one thing i did do was send a missionary through her territory. I wasnt trying to convert her cities but to get to a CS on the other side. When my missionary hit her capital borders she insta-denounced me. 2 turns later the RA fizzled. No bonus, just my normal bpt that turn.
1) Is this from the patch? I know stealing techs, denouncements, etc can make them fizzle but other than the missionary none of my actions could be perceived against her. I didnt even ally a CS she was allies with or beat her to a wonder.
2) If it fizzles for me does it fizzle for her? What if I take an action like denounce her? Will that mean she also has a busted RA?
3) Can irrational Civs do this without provocation just to bust the RA? They used to do this by DoWing you but maybe the patch changed this.
As it is, I still dont want to take RAs but now it's only because I no longer understand the minutiae of the mechanics of an RA. Stuff like this will help me understand what and what not to do in games.
Thanks
I recently had a fizzled RA in my last game and I now realize it isnt a bug but it happens when you do something to anger who you had the agreement with. In this case Theodora denounced me 2 turns before the RA was to complete. I didnt steal a tech, I was going OCC and she didnt covet my lands yet, I generally didnt do anything to make here angry. Her friend definitions were typical: had an embassy, denounced the same leader, declaration of freindship, friends with an enemy (happened before our DoF--shouldnt break an RA amount i dont think). But the one thing i did do was send a missionary through her territory. I wasnt trying to convert her cities but to get to a CS on the other side. When my missionary hit her capital borders she insta-denounced me. 2 turns later the RA fizzled. No bonus, just my normal bpt that turn.
1) Is this from the patch? I know stealing techs, denouncements, etc can make them fizzle but other than the missionary none of my actions could be perceived against her. I didnt even ally a CS she was allies with or beat her to a wonder.
2) If it fizzles for me does it fizzle for her? What if I take an action like denounce her? Will that mean she also has a busted RA?
3) Can irrational Civs do this without provocation just to bust the RA? They used to do this by DoWing you but maybe the patch changed this.
As it is, I still dont want to take RAs but now it's only because I no longer understand the minutiae of the mechanics of an RA. Stuff like this will help me understand what and what not to do in games.
Thanks