This is sort of a legal question (but can apply to all who have dabbled in employment), to those that have any expertise to offer. So, I currently work in a place where there's no time clock (machine), no real way for the employer to know for certain when the employees are showing up, or leaving.
You're scheduled to be at work during certain times, but due to the fact that it's shift work, and you're relieving someone that worked before you, it's customary/expected that you show up 15 mins prior. No overtime is paid, here, btw (ever). Anyway, what they/we DO use, is just this daily log thing, on the computer. It's just this MS Word document they made up, in which they make various entries pertinent to the job. Also logged (usually by someone other than yourself - your coworker) is what times you arrive and depart. Typically they'll just type it as such, when the person (coworker) that has the file open, sees you for the first time. But this is not my idea of some 'official clock-in thing.'
Now, unfortunately I work with quite a few catty, scheming and uh, "would call it back-stabbing if it weren't so cute" women, that are obsessed with this events log thing, and they just lie in wait to screw someone over (thus the spotlight is hopefully away from them).
I think it's all a bunch of crap. I arrive within my 15-min window (never late - past the top of the hour), and then depart within that window at the end of the shift. I'm not 'shorting my employer on time', by any means, and would be totally content to have a real time clocking machine, so I wouldn't have to worry about it.
But, it's these women... they show up late, and leave early. Then they try to cover themselves by lying on the log (covering their tracks, giving themselves more time credit than they actually worked), and then they'll actually go so far as to give someone else (such as myself... or anyone else) LESS time than when they actually showed up. Again, when you know you're guilty, you try and afix the spotlight onto someone else.
Worst part - the supervisor herself is a catty woman, that is new to the business of supervising. She's fresh out of the environment I described above, and she's being a stickler about "what time the log says XYZ", which had better not equal less than 40 hrs a week.
But it's not a time clock - it's jsut some silly Word document maintained by coworkers. So, question is --keeping in mind that I'm always going to show up at the proper times, do my job, and leave at the proper times-- do I have anything to worry about? It may sound strange, but in this work enviroment where everyone is scheming against eachother - to try to get their rivals fired, I dunno.
My own supervisor keeps badgering me (the new guy) to write statements about this other woman she doesn't like (and wants to fire... but first you need the paper trail). And of course, the other one is talking about filing grievances, etc. against other people, including the boss.
Typical women in the workplace. All I care about, is getting paid, and making sure my @ss is covered. So what's the deal... if it really came down to it, can this crap be used against me, or anyone else for that matter? I would hope not. If the supervisor EVER officially counsels me, or documents anything on this matter, I'm going to file an administrative grievance outlining all of the above... and strongly suggest they get a stinkin' time clock... if they're going to be such sticklers about "a couple of minutes here, a couple of minutes there"... just so they can have you by the balls at all times, with 'a paper trail' standing by to fire you, just because it's their time of the month.
Once again, it's all in 'who you work with'. Anyone that ever says, "I wish I worked with more women", you have no idea what you're asking for.
You're scheduled to be at work during certain times, but due to the fact that it's shift work, and you're relieving someone that worked before you, it's customary/expected that you show up 15 mins prior. No overtime is paid, here, btw (ever). Anyway, what they/we DO use, is just this daily log thing, on the computer. It's just this MS Word document they made up, in which they make various entries pertinent to the job. Also logged (usually by someone other than yourself - your coworker) is what times you arrive and depart. Typically they'll just type it as such, when the person (coworker) that has the file open, sees you for the first time. But this is not my idea of some 'official clock-in thing.'
Now, unfortunately I work with quite a few catty, scheming and uh, "would call it back-stabbing if it weren't so cute" women, that are obsessed with this events log thing, and they just lie in wait to screw someone over (thus the spotlight is hopefully away from them).
I think it's all a bunch of crap. I arrive within my 15-min window (never late - past the top of the hour), and then depart within that window at the end of the shift. I'm not 'shorting my employer on time', by any means, and would be totally content to have a real time clocking machine, so I wouldn't have to worry about it.
But, it's these women... they show up late, and leave early. Then they try to cover themselves by lying on the log (covering their tracks, giving themselves more time credit than they actually worked), and then they'll actually go so far as to give someone else (such as myself... or anyone else) LESS time than when they actually showed up. Again, when you know you're guilty, you try and afix the spotlight onto someone else.
Worst part - the supervisor herself is a catty woman, that is new to the business of supervising. She's fresh out of the environment I described above, and she's being a stickler about "what time the log says XYZ", which had better not equal less than 40 hrs a week.
But it's not a time clock - it's jsut some silly Word document maintained by coworkers. So, question is --keeping in mind that I'm always going to show up at the proper times, do my job, and leave at the proper times-- do I have anything to worry about? It may sound strange, but in this work enviroment where everyone is scheming against eachother - to try to get their rivals fired, I dunno.
My own supervisor keeps badgering me (the new guy) to write statements about this other woman she doesn't like (and wants to fire... but first you need the paper trail). And of course, the other one is talking about filing grievances, etc. against other people, including the boss.
Typical women in the workplace. All I care about, is getting paid, and making sure my @ss is covered. So what's the deal... if it really came down to it, can this crap be used against me, or anyone else for that matter? I would hope not. If the supervisor EVER officially counsels me, or documents anything on this matter, I'm going to file an administrative grievance outlining all of the above... and strongly suggest they get a stinkin' time clock... if they're going to be such sticklers about "a couple of minutes here, a couple of minutes there"... just so they can have you by the balls at all times, with 'a paper trail' standing by to fire you, just because it's their time of the month.
Once again, it's all in 'who you work with'. Anyone that ever says, "I wish I worked with more women", you have no idea what you're asking for.