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Thanks folks. Amazing how complex this game is, eh ?
it sure is.
Thanks folks. Amazing how complex this game is, eh ?
Sorry to resurrect an "old" thread but have a few questions that should've been asked before:What do I need culture pops for? Or cathedrals? 6 luxes is usually not a problem, on Demigod the AI is fast to connect all their resources, and they also build harbors (contrary to the lower levels...)
If you can't get 6 luxuries, build horsemen instead of temples and then go capture those resources. That solves your happiness problem much more efficient than temples and cathedrals...
Research still works ok up to Deity. Of course you will be behind during the ancient age and most of the medieval age, but by the end of the medieval age you should have caught up and be the tech leader, even on Deity. I prefer doing my own research, benefiting from reduced tech costs (get many contacts!) by researching tech known to everyone, or if I see a chance to get a monopoly tech before the AI does (see alexman's study on AI tech preferences - or was it Bamspeedy?!), I go for it and try to trade tech for tech instead of gpt for tech. That only makes you more backward. Also, once the AIs start warring with each other, there will sooner or later be a beaten down backward AI that will trade tech for tech with you. (Start fomenting wars on the other continent early, while they still can't get at you...)
On these levels you simply have to get used to "playing from behind" for quite a while. Also, lack of horses/iron can be overcome by a poor-man's army of Longbows, Trebuchets and Spears. Quantity instead of quality... That can be quite effective.
No: assuming founding immediately and no other Culture built, your capital will hit 100 Culture on Turn 100, giving you a 3-tile radius. So even if you've only been settling at Cx(x)xC (distance 4.0 to 4.5), your 1st-ring towns will still have expanded your borders nearly twice as far again as the Cultural influence from your Palace.1) In an earlier post (#13) you mentioned you don't need Temples. Here you say you don't need culture pops either. So are you depending on the Capital's culture pops from the Palace to give your other core settlements extra tiles, at least in the first 100 turns?
Continents and Arch-maps do make (trans-Oceanic) Lux-acquisition impossible, that's true. But assuming you've gone to Republic (and if not, why not?!?), then your (core-town) commerce-bonus should mean that you shouldn't need to run LUX% that high, at least during peacetime. If you only need to keep a few of your core-towns in order, then turning those few unhappy citizens into Specialists is usually preferable to raising LUX% across the board — but turn them into Geeks if possible, and still try and keep that town growing (positive net FPT), even if only slowly.So was this wrong? Should the Luxury slider have been cranked up to, say, 40, even 50% to compensate? Certainly wouldn't want the core to be turning Citizens into Specialists just to avoid Anarchy. OTOH wouldn't want to crimp Research either.
No, absolutely not! Initially you might want to be able to buy the most advanced AI-Civs' techs for gold or GPT, but only if you can be reasonably sure of recouping your investment by selling it on to the others (another reason why early contacts are so important). And once you've brokered your way into the tech-lead, you'll want to slow the AI-Civs' ability to research further, by siphoning off all their available income in exchange for your (older, more widely known) techs.3) Regarding Tech trading, are you suggesting any GPT deal should be avoided?
tjs282 has the answer:1) In an earlier post (#13) you mentioned you don't need Temples. Here you say you don't need culture pops either. So are you depending on the Capital's culture pops from the Palace to give your other core settlements extra tiles, at least in the first 100 turns?
Also, when you place towns at CxxxC on (or near) the diagonal axes, you'll acquire ownership of any 'extra' tiles between each town's initial 3x3 block, which will get filled in by your Culture even without a border-pop.
Of course there is no "one size fits all". There may be exceptions, where luxuries are indeed a problem, but you should be able to recognize these situations early enough to provide remedy, e.g. make plans early enough to get the Hanging Gardens, or if you see that many luxes are not tradable because of ocean, make a beeline to Astronomy, etc.2) In a recent Emperor game as Pachacuti with large Continents (selected randomly, as with all other parameters except the map) on a Standard map there were only 3 separate Luxury types (with multiples of each) on mine, which was shared with Elizabeth and Temujin to the east. Hannibal was on an Island further east with 2 Luxury types (Gems and Silks) accessible by Sea. The other Continent, isolated by thick belts of Ocean tiles, was practically useless for trades or invasion.
Fortunately Ivory near Cuzco enabled Temple of Zeus and its AC. Yet even after seizing unclaimed Dyes in Jungle and Wines from conquest while trading for Hannibal's Silks (he only had one Gem) that made for only 4 Luxuries in the whole Incan Empire. In the meantime Pachacuti felt obliged to pacify his unhappy subjects with Temples, even Colosseums to make up for inadequate benefits from Marketplaces.
So was this wrong? Should the Luxury slider have been cranked up to, say, 40, even 50% to compensate? Certainly wouldn't want the core to be turning Citizens into Specialists just to avoid Anarchy. OTOH wouldn't want to crimp Research either.
There are situations, where it might make sense to buy a tech for your own gold, e.g. if you see that you can resell it immediately afterwards to 3-4 other AIs to regain your investment with interest. But in general yes: the AI should be giving its gold to you, not the other way around...3) Regarding Tech trading, are you suggesting any GPT deal should be avoided?
With every forum software upgrade I seem to be one of the unlucky fellers who always lose their attachments... I had already restored the screenshots once a couple of years ago, but with the last upgrade to XenForo they got lost again. I still had the screenshots for my "Republicans" and "Gandhi on the Rocks" stories on one of my older desktops, but can't find the ones for the Asterix game anymoreP.S. Alas, the screenshots are missing from your Asterix Training Day Game. You'd think with the bazillion-byte storage spaces available these days it would be a mere bagatelle to keep these treasures for posterity. Still a lot of useful info from commentary, links and such.
If the AI researches it for you, even better! You will certainly be able to buy it for Republic and then convert your pre-build into the Hanging Gardens... (You have planned ahead and started a pre-build in time, didn't you? With a well-timed pre-build you can always get any wonder you want, even on Deity.)@ Lanzelot: You suggest the Hanging Gardens to relieve unhappiness but it requires Monarchy. Won't the AIs research it and build HG ahead of you, especially if you're focused on Republic? .
It seems on Demigod one can never rest...
Congratulations! Here's to many more!Pleased to announce that after about fifteen years of vain pursuit I finally got that elusive Demigod win (all random settings on Standard map).
A great thing about CivAssist is that it tells me how much the various trades are worth and whether I am making a good deal or not. Now that really is handy.