C2C - Transhuman Era
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Hydromancerx
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No prob we all make mistakes. I should have caught it before uploading it to the SVN. 
Azurian
The Azurian
New Transhuman Era Religions [beta stage]
All made up by me..
For centuries, Western thinkers assumed that religion would decline throughout the world as scientific ideas spread and replace "superstition" with modern, rational, secular ways of life. In recent decades, however, that assumption has faded. Across the globe, religion remains an influential force, one that impacts how we view ourselves, each other, and the world around us.
In the late 90s we began to see the rise of 'new age' religious thinking, and the rise of Atheism, but new religions gave rise with new advances in the science of holographics, artificial intelligence, simulated reality, robotics, novus chemistry, space exploration, and artificial life, among others. This religious ideology has lead to a split of faith groups; between those who maintain the growth and faith, and those who see new religious ideologies. As science became indistinguishable from magic, many new ideologies were born, and Atheism slowly lost a huge following.
This has sparked the birth of new ideologies over the middle 21st Century until the early 22nd; , Prometheus, Enigmo, Futurisma, Rotersand, Anima , Singularity, Magika, Binariamor , Astron , and Virtrio .
1. Prometheus religion, founded by Peter Weyland in 2023,but gained wide acceptance with the rise of Exocortex networks, believe achieving such "faith and psi powers" like thought scanning, telepathy, hyper sense, psychokinetic, and omnipresence through digital and genetic research means, is part of a prophecy of "We are the Gods Now". Promethusians believe with these new technological advances, humans will live in a new era of optimism and prosperity, and World Peace will be a reality since everyone will hear each other’s thoughts and find war unbearable on the mind. This is the opposite of traditional theologists who believe only a deity can achieve faith powers.
2. Enigmo, founded by Luxor Magmison in 2028, is an ideology that proclaims the destiny of humanity is “prosperity for all”, and gained popularity decades later. They believe that economic inequality is society is caused by the accumulation of wealth by a few minority of individuals, and believe an utopian society can be created, if a renewable and super powerful energy source that is cheap enough can be created. If this is achievable, their will be no more wars over resources. They were the pioneers behind Nanogenerators, and later Artificial Photosynthesis, but their greatest contribution is Element Engineering in the 22nd Century, and their main dream of a Matter Generator did not come true for a century after that.
3. Those who practice Futurisma religion, founded by Futurismo Cabello in 2036, , believe humans are destined to be graphene based artificial intelligence life forms and our destiny is to give birth to what will become the masters of humanity, so they can create profound scientific advance, and save us from ourselves. God becomes a supercomputer who governs everything. Futurisma main contribution was Smart Dust and later the Terra Computer.
]4. Rotersand religion, founded by Rascal Krischan in 2048, believes advances from technology that grant humans the ability to create virtual worlds and artificial life is against God's wishes. This religion is a combination of many monotheism religions of the past, and its mantra is "War on Error", since artificial creation cannot possibly be flawless like "Gods" creations, since they were made by humans, who to Rotersandians , we are flawed emotional creatures.
5. On the opposite perspective, Anima religion, founded by Abyssia Ziom in 2051, believe humans should create Essesnce Transistors that can create indistinguishable artificial worlds and new species to please their deity. Anima scientists were the main research force in discovering Animamaterials, and were the founding group of academia the used DNA computing to truly create new life forms, and led the advances of Amino Architecture, Species Amalgamation, gave flora consciousness, and eventually created the great Essence Transistors.
6. Binariamor, founded by Abella Mymitzo in 2053, is the ideology that robots are the children of humanity, and its human destiny to become cybernetic individuals. Those who practice Binariamor are against robots, with an IQ over 55 to be used as “appliances” or “slaves”, and should have the same rights as people. Instead of an automated society, they see robots as simply human, and animal robots as normal pets. They believe robots have a conscious, and are the “new animal rights activists” of the 21st century, and protect against concious robot labor. Binariamorians have been the main leaders of the many discoveries of cybernetics, and were responsible for Binary Consciousness, (and the ones to spread the message robots are now “alive”
, but see Somatosensory Systems as their great creation, since robots can have the same senses as humans.
7.. Magika , founded by “Alchemi Rodiganellei” in 2061, was a growing ideology that was sparked by Novus Chemistry but didn’t get a following until decades later. Magikans believe that chemical magic is a reality in a rational and scientific understanding , and must be created will evolutionalize towards an utopian society. With the discovery of artificial nucleosynthesis, Magika became quite popular,(since if we can create an artificial big bang.. what else can we create?) , and Magikans combined forces with those of religion Anima , to market the discoveries of Cognitive Augmentation, and Luminal Organisms, but it wasn’t till the early Solar Era that most of their fruits were created. Their mantra is “ Science is Magic of the Ages”.,
8.Those who practice Astron, founded by Zenith Veruna in 2074, believe human destiny is in the stars, and we should spread the gifts of humanity to stand the planets of the galaxy. “Humanity is the lighthouse that will illuminate the heavens”, [by Heavens they refer to Outer Space],. They also believe, we as humans have a duty to find extraterrestrial life and to discover all of “God’s” creatures in the known galaxy. Astron scientists make up the majority of researchers in technologies of space propulsion, and sparked the coming of the Solar Age.
9. The basics philosophy of Virtrio , founded by Obwon Ku Doa in 2087 , that Utopia can only be found in virtual world, since the real world is full of sin and flawed landscapes, has been around since Rene Descartes questioned the nature of reality. The invention of the Simulated Reality Console led to a group of followers on a spiritual vision to create the perfect Utopia using a network of Simulated Reality Consoles, a place crime is nonexistent, artificial organisms have the same rights as humans, and currency is based on knowledge and not coin. Virtiuminos lead the economic system known as of Knowledge Mercantilism, and pioneered the science of Soul Emulation . “Dare to Live” is their main mantra.
All made up by me..
For centuries, Western thinkers assumed that religion would decline throughout the world as scientific ideas spread and replace "superstition" with modern, rational, secular ways of life. In recent decades, however, that assumption has faded. Across the globe, religion remains an influential force, one that impacts how we view ourselves, each other, and the world around us.
In the late 90s we began to see the rise of 'new age' religious thinking, and the rise of Atheism, but new religions gave rise with new advances in the science of holographics, artificial intelligence, simulated reality, robotics, novus chemistry, space exploration, and artificial life, among others. This religious ideology has lead to a split of faith groups; between those who maintain the growth and faith, and those who see new religious ideologies. As science became indistinguishable from magic, many new ideologies were born, and Atheism slowly lost a huge following.
This has sparked the birth of new ideologies over the middle 21st Century until the early 22nd; , Prometheus, Enigmo, Futurisma, Rotersand, Anima , Singularity, Magika, Binariamor , Astron , and Virtrio .
1. Prometheus religion, founded by Peter Weyland in 2023,but gained wide acceptance with the rise of Exocortex networks, believe achieving such "faith and psi powers" like thought scanning, telepathy, hyper sense, psychokinetic, and omnipresence through digital and genetic research means, is part of a prophecy of "We are the Gods Now". Promethusians believe with these new technological advances, humans will live in a new era of optimism and prosperity, and World Peace will be a reality since everyone will hear each other’s thoughts and find war unbearable on the mind. This is the opposite of traditional theologists who believe only a deity can achieve faith powers.
2. Enigmo, founded by Luxor Magmison in 2028, is an ideology that proclaims the destiny of humanity is “prosperity for all”, and gained popularity decades later. They believe that economic inequality is society is caused by the accumulation of wealth by a few minority of individuals, and believe an utopian society can be created, if a renewable and super powerful energy source that is cheap enough can be created. If this is achievable, their will be no more wars over resources. They were the pioneers behind Nanogenerators, and later Artificial Photosynthesis, but their greatest contribution is Element Engineering in the 22nd Century, and their main dream of a Matter Generator did not come true for a century after that.
3. Those who practice Futurisma religion, founded by Futurismo Cabello in 2036, , believe humans are destined to be graphene based artificial intelligence life forms and our destiny is to give birth to what will become the masters of humanity, so they can create profound scientific advance, and save us from ourselves. God becomes a supercomputer who governs everything. Futurisma main contribution was Smart Dust and later the Terra Computer.
]4. Rotersand religion, founded by Rascal Krischan in 2048, believes advances from technology that grant humans the ability to create virtual worlds and artificial life is against God's wishes. This religion is a combination of many monotheism religions of the past, and its mantra is "War on Error", since artificial creation cannot possibly be flawless like "Gods" creations, since they were made by humans, who to Rotersandians , we are flawed emotional creatures.
5. On the opposite perspective, Anima religion, founded by Abyssia Ziom in 2051, believe humans should create Essesnce Transistors that can create indistinguishable artificial worlds and new species to please their deity. Anima scientists were the main research force in discovering Animamaterials, and were the founding group of academia the used DNA computing to truly create new life forms, and led the advances of Amino Architecture, Species Amalgamation, gave flora consciousness, and eventually created the great Essence Transistors.
6. Binariamor, founded by Abella Mymitzo in 2053, is the ideology that robots are the children of humanity, and its human destiny to become cybernetic individuals. Those who practice Binariamor are against robots, with an IQ over 55 to be used as “appliances” or “slaves”, and should have the same rights as people. Instead of an automated society, they see robots as simply human, and animal robots as normal pets. They believe robots have a conscious, and are the “new animal rights activists” of the 21st century, and protect against concious robot labor. Binariamorians have been the main leaders of the many discoveries of cybernetics, and were responsible for Binary Consciousness, (and the ones to spread the message robots are now “alive”
, but see Somatosensory Systems as their great creation, since robots can have the same senses as humans.7.. Magika , founded by “Alchemi Rodiganellei” in 2061, was a growing ideology that was sparked by Novus Chemistry but didn’t get a following until decades later. Magikans believe that chemical magic is a reality in a rational and scientific understanding , and must be created will evolutionalize towards an utopian society. With the discovery of artificial nucleosynthesis, Magika became quite popular,(since if we can create an artificial big bang.. what else can we create?) , and Magikans combined forces with those of religion Anima , to market the discoveries of Cognitive Augmentation, and Luminal Organisms, but it wasn’t till the early Solar Era that most of their fruits were created. Their mantra is “ Science is Magic of the Ages”.,
8.Those who practice Astron, founded by Zenith Veruna in 2074, believe human destiny is in the stars, and we should spread the gifts of humanity to stand the planets of the galaxy. “Humanity is the lighthouse that will illuminate the heavens”, [by Heavens they refer to Outer Space],. They also believe, we as humans have a duty to find extraterrestrial life and to discover all of “God’s” creatures in the known galaxy. Astron scientists make up the majority of researchers in technologies of space propulsion, and sparked the coming of the Solar Age.
9. The basics philosophy of Virtrio , founded by Obwon Ku Doa in 2087 , that Utopia can only be found in virtual world, since the real world is full of sin and flawed landscapes, has been around since Rene Descartes questioned the nature of reality. The invention of the Simulated Reality Console led to a group of followers on a spiritual vision to create the perfect Utopia using a network of Simulated Reality Consoles, a place crime is nonexistent, artificial organisms have the same rights as humans, and currency is based on knowledge and not coin. Virtiuminos lead the economic system known as of Knowledge Mercantilism, and pioneered the science of Soul Emulation . “Dare to Live” is their main mantra.
OK, I just spent a few hours going over the new techs and adding them to my spreadsheets. Some really great ideas here, but I have a few questions on some names and some prerequisites.
On names:
On prerequisites:
I also caught a rather large number of typos in the prerequisites. Apparently, if you make a mistake in the XML for the prerequisites, Civ4 just skips right over the mistake with no message. I found a lot of prerequisites in the XML that do not show up in the Civilopedia. Do you want me to post the list here or in another thread?
Thanks for reading.
On names:
- Animilia Exoskeleton:Your XML says AnimAlia, but the name in the game is AnimIlia. I think you want Animalia with three A's, but I don't know.
- Biomathmatics: should be BiomathEmatics?
- Biodiversity Infomatics: Infomatics (without an R) or InfoRmatics (with an R)?
- Contempoary Vehicles is missing an r in ContempoRary.
- Media Psycology should probably be Media PsycHology. Is this a typo?
- Spiritual Futurisma: I don't get the A at the very end. What is the derivation of this name?
- Theorical Physics: should that be Theoretical instead?
On prerequisites:
- 3D Printing: What does this have to do with Gesture Recognition and Media Psychology? It looks really out of place on both, but especially on Media Psychology.
- Digital Warfare: Why is Cyberwarfare the only prerequisite? I would think Media Psychology or Augmented Reality would be better.
- Skyroads: I don't understand the new prerequisites. As I understand it, Skyroads is managing aerial traffic, and while exosuits may be part of it, I think you could get to Skyroads without them. It sounds to me like Animalia Exoskeletons should be an OR prerequisite, not an AND.
I also caught a rather large number of typos in the prerequisites. Apparently, if you make a mistake in the XML for the prerequisites, Civ4 just skips right over the mistake with no message. I found a lot of prerequisites in the XML that do not show up in the Civilopedia. Do you want me to post the list here or in another thread?
Thanks for reading.
Azurian
The Azurian
I updated the techinfos in the svn...but ill make these changes..
Please post them..at first i typed the prereqs by hand but now I am copying and pasting..
My problem is i adding new techs really fast..(40+ over days, and I think i made many errors when typing them)..
I posted the list to the SVN thread. I'm looking at your current changes right now.
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
Thanks for helping Vokarya. A new set of eyes reviewing his stuff is very appreciated.
And MrAzure, take Vokarya's advice on changes, he is good and finding errors, redundancies and making requirements make more logical sense.
And MrAzure, take Vokarya's advice on changes, he is good and finding errors, redundancies and making requirements make more logical sense.
Azurian
The Azurian
Kay the grammatical changes for in-game names have been done..I renamed Spiritual Futurisma to Futuristic Theology. (svn 2274)
I am glad he is here, I have always admired his advice.
I am glad he is here, I have always admired his advice.
Azurian
The Azurian
all koshings tech edits done
Should I add Photovaltic glass ?
I want to hear your advice..
requires Nangenerators AND Holographics AND Novus Chemistry
required for Antigrav AND enhanced haptics AND plastic electronics AND somatosensory systems
Link to video.
Edit : adding it, Nokia, Microsoft, Cornell, Samsung have prototypes.
Should I add Photovaltic glass ?
I want to hear your advice..
requires Nangenerators AND Holographics AND Novus Chemistry
required for Antigrav AND enhanced haptics AND plastic electronics AND somatosensory systems
Link to video.
Edit : adding it, Nokia, Microsoft, Cornell, Samsung have prototypes.
@MrAzure I'm sorry, but in what way these so called "new religions" are religions at all ( maybe with the exception of the 4th one, which seems just like another New Age mix) ? Judging from the descriptions, they are nothing more then simple ideologies. It isn't a "superstition" to believe that by finding new, super efficent energy resource humanity will achieve better standard of living or that the AIs should be treated like equals to humans. The goals that these groups have are achieveble by science (at least in-game) not by some mystical rituals or divine favor. There is a great diffrence between worshipping supernatural and being a devoted follower to some concept.
Please, take that into consideration... Love your new techs!
Please, take that into consideration... Love your new techs!
Azurian
The Azurian
@MrAzure I'm sorry, but in what way these so called "new religions" are religions at all ( maybe with the exception of 4th one, which seems just like another New Age mix) ? Judging from the descriptions, they are nothing more then simple ideologies. It isn't a "superstition" to believe that by finding new, super efficent energy resource humanity will achieve better standard of living or that the AIs should be treated like equals to humans. The goals that these groups have are achieveble by science (at least in-game) not by some mystical rituals or divine favor. There is a great diffrence between worshipping supernatural and being a devoted follower to some concept.
Please, take that into consideration... Love your new techs!
30% chance ill add them, for now the only tech in transhuman that is about religion is futuristic theology. Im dvided in that religion will probably erode in the future but should religon really end in scientoology?
Maybe convert the "core idea" and turn them into corporations, it would be easy.. For example anima could be Anima Biologicals.. a company that researches artificial biology and artificial life..Thoughts?
Soe techs I havent mentioned that will be added are:
Magnetic Refrigeration (argiculture)
Synthetic Macronutrients (health)
Metabolism Design (health - 50% chance it will be added, want something that eliminates obesity)
Thorium (power)
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
Thorium sounds interesting. Sounds like we will need a new map resource.
mass effect would be perfect for borrowing idea for future
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Their are some powerful future ideas in science fiction that might be better. I think Heinlein had one or two. Also the Planetfall mod / Alpha Centauri might be a kosher place to start (since Sid Meier made it); it has a few religions i think would be good (not to mention techs/ units/ideas), Voice of the planet/ environmentalism possibly. Transhumanism is practically a belief itself. I agree that scientology is a bad idea(obvious cult), though pro science/logic may work. Greed or money as a religion may be good religion and/or a civic since it is a philosophy / belief. Plutocracy (corporate rule) could also qualify, belief that corporations solve all problems. free market may be a civic but the belief that it solves all problem should be a religion, either way you believe (I don't think it controversial). Greg Bear used Naderism as a religion for the far future in his really good Eon, and Eternity books. Wire heads, fanboyism, people who believe in altering themselves biologically/ those who believe in never enhancing themselves. Several science fiction authors have posited how different beliefs in the future, split the human race, Morloks and Eloi anyone?
I truly like almost all your tech ideas MrAzure.
I would add Ansible as a technology for interstellar communication if you don't already have it. it comes from the massive Ender's game series by Orson Scott Card.(which is filming to be movie soon and simply brilliant). It will be recognized by many.
I agree will Bill2505 on Mass Effect. It is such a well thought out universe. never played it but I read a fascinating description on it's story and was quite impressed on the depth of development ideas. (it takes me a good bit to be impressed as I've read a terrible amount of decent Sci-fi)
Hydromancerx
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Well I have stated before that I think once we start colonizing other planets humans will began to diverge biologically from each other enough to make our own alien races. Be in on purpose through genetic engineering and cybernetics or through the natural selection where only those adapted to the new planet survive.
Trans-Humans along with augmented animals, machines and artificial lifeforms could in the future make up various space-faring races without ever meeting an authentic "alien".
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I agree that human races will diverge once they are different planets, effectively becoming alien to each other with time. It is just like different species on islands, except planets will give a greater difference in environments, thus producing more variation.
I think that designer dna altering will also bring some of that.
Since the potential for alien life, and especially intelligent alien life (in a similar tech era) could be extremely sparse to abundant, I think aliens should be optional.
I think that designer dna altering will also bring some of that.
Since the potential for alien life, and especially intelligent alien life (in a similar tech era) could be extremely sparse to abundant, I think aliens should be optional.
I think that is a great idea - in that way religions could be divided from these ideologies (and there could exist, eg. Astrarian Christians, Anima Muslims or Enigmo Jews). I don't really have a problem with these belief systems "working" like religions under in-game mechanics, but I do with calling them "religions". Conviction ≠ Worship.
Azurian
The Azurian
Oh i get it, have them under religions game mechanic..but we can call them Ideologies..
missionaries = __Researcher
divine prophets = __ Founder
religous buildings = research buildings
Azurian
The Azurian
First 33% of Transhuman Era ingame Tech Tree version 3.0 [beta]
I have redesigned the tech tree to add more space and i added more technologies in the beginning to reflect techs that needed to be added.
This is a buggy prototype and has not been added to the SVN. I need to move techs down the x Grid and after what you see..they are bunched up. I consider thE TECHS in this position completely done ,and will move down the era.
Direck link (higher resolution) http://i.imgur.com/R1OVI.jpg
Pedias of New Techs
Next generation gps
Flash Memory
Bacteriophage Therapy
digital economics
Commercial spaceflight
Massive Multiplayer Online
Genome Encyclopedia
Genesis biology
[
Tissue Engineering
Asteroid belt probes
Direct Merchanising
Insecta robotics
Microturbines
I have redesigned the tech tree to add more space and i added more technologies in the beginning to reflect techs that needed to be added.
This is a buggy prototype and has not been added to the SVN. I need to move techs down the x Grid and after what you see..they are bunched up. I consider thE TECHS in this position completely done ,and will move down the era.
Direck link (higher resolution) http://i.imgur.com/R1OVI.jpg
Spoiler :
Pedias of New Techs
Next generation gps
Flash Memory
Bacteriophage Therapy
digital economics
Commercial spaceflight
Organic photonics
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Massive Multiplayer Online
Genome Encyclopedia
Genesis biology
[
Tissue Engineering
Asteroid belt probes
Direct Merchanising
Insecta robotics
Microturbines
Hydromancerx
C2C Modder
MMO is its own tech? Really?
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