C2C: Promotions

This thread is for general discussions about promotions in C2C, as well as a place to request promotions to be made. All requests need graphics, or else I can not do anything with them. (this thread requested by Hydro)

One thing that does need to be done is to sort out the ships. Some of them have land promotions. The most obvious is the "sniper" promotion.

Dancing Hoskuld said:

One thing that does need to be done is to sort out the ships. Some of them have land promotions. The most obvious is the "sniper" promotion.

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List the units that are exhibiting this problem and I'll fix it tomorrow.

@ls612

I have a bunch from Realism Invictus that I want converted. I will give you a detailed breakdown soon. Just giving you a heads up if you have not downloaded that mod.

Thanks for making this topic.

@ls612

Ok here is the first set I want converted from Realism Invictus.

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Hit and Run
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Use their Requirements
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Use the stats they give.

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Loose Formation
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Use their Requirements
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Use the stats they give.

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Forward Observers
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Use their Requirements
Unit Types: Use their units they give it to.
Stats: Have it give +15% vs Mounts since we do not have a Light Mounts category.

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Suppressive Fire
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Use their Requirements
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Use the stats they give.

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Camouflage
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Use their Requirements
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Add on to its stats ...

• +10% Marsh Defense
• +10% Muddy Defense
• +10% Lush Defense
• +10% Barren Defense
• +10% Rocky Defense
• +10% Scrub Defense
• +10% Dune Defense
• +10% Salt Flats Defense
• +10% Permafrost Defense

Basically all the additional terrain types C2C has.

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This should keep you busy for now.

@ls612

Please replace the "Robot" Type category icon/button with this new icon/button. Thanks!

Quoted from a previous post by me:

BlueGenie said:

Got two things that seem wrong with promotions and one thing that might be fun:

1. The Promotions that grant continued XP against Aminals and Barbarians past the limit don't work in Dynamic XP settings. Dynamic XP means you continue to gain XP past any set limits. If the promotions instead granted both allowing XP past limit AND +25% XP vs the type they would be worth taking regardless of XP settings.

2. Not all promotions are only beneficial, I'm thinking mainly of the Fieldsman promotions but of course all promotions that grant both positive and negative effects, and as such should really never be given as bonus promotion from battle but only able to chose yourself when gaining enough XP to gain a level.

3. To increase the interesting factor of battle promotions it might be fun to add the possibility of gaining the Flavour Promotions via Battle Promotions even if they are not otherwise accessible. That would increase the amount of Battle Promotions available so that some could be removed from being in the list of Battle Promotions (like the Fieldman ones though others could be removed too then if thought necessary or better for game play).

Cheers

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Cheers

Trench 1 2 and 3 unlocked with trench warfare?

CIVPlayer8 said:

Trench 1 2 and 3 unlocked with trench warfare?

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That seems reasonable. Done now on the SVN.

This probably does not go here but a side issue on promotions is the way they are displayed when you select a unit (or stack). Basically if you have combat 1 to combat 6 then only combat 6 is shown but the hover over of the promotion details the total affect of the promotions. Not sure how this would work for a stack where you show all the promotions for all the units with the number of units having each.

In a stack the list showing just the top promotion of each line will probably shorten the list a bit.

@DH: (or whoever knows the answer)

Where are the new Terrains/Features for C2C in the files? I looked all around the modules folder and could not find anything, but it is probably in plain sight and I missed it.

I already report it in the bug section but see animals can have terrestrial promotion after victorious combat

Filochard said:

I already report it in the bug section but see animals can have terrestrial promotion after victorious combat

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That's DH's territory, It is in Subdued Animals, as well as being a Python issue.

ls612 said:

@DH: (or whoever knows the answer)

Where are the new Terrains/Features for C2C in the files? I looked all around the modules folder and could not find anything, but it is probably in plain sight and I missed it.

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For the new water terrain are in the mods folder under Resources/OceanClimate

Hydromancerx said:

For the new water terrain are in the mods folder under Resources/OceanClimate

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No, I mean the new land terrains, they aren't in the core CIV4_TerrainInfos.xml. I need to find them to make the Camouflage promotion.

@ls612

Here are more from Realism Invictus.

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Flammable Arrows I
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Combat I
Req Tech: Ancient Ballistics
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Use the stats they give.

Note: They have also Flammable Arrows that has nothing. I just want to skip that one.

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Flammable Arrows II and III
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Use their Requirements
Req Tech: Ancient Ballistics
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Use the stats they give.

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Chivalry I
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Combat I
Req Tech: Chivalry
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Use the stats they give.

Note: They have also Code of Honor that has nothing. I just want to skip that one.

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Chivalry II and III
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Use their Requirements
Req Tech: Chivalry
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Use the stats they give.

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Siege Engineering I
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Barrage I
Req Tech: Siege Warfare
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Use the stats they give.

Note: They have also Engineering Corps that has nothing. I just want to skip that one.

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Siege Engineering II and III
Graphic: Use their button/icon
Req Promotions: Use their Requirements
Req Tech: Siege Warfare
Unit Types: Use their unit types.
Stats: Use the stats they give.

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I think these will keep you busy for now.

ls612 said:

No, I mean the new land terrains, they aren't in the core CIV4_TerrainInfos.xml. I need to find them to make the Camouflage promotion.

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You sure you looked hard enough? I can see them in the core. Names like TERRAIN_PERMAFROST and TERRAIN_SCRUB

They are all listed in CIV4TerrainInfos.xml in the Terrain folder.

Hydromancerx said:

You sure you looked hard enough? I can see them in the core. Names like TERRAIN_PERMAFROST and TERRAIN_SCRUB

They are all listed in CIV4TerrainInfos.xml in the Terrain folder.

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Well, when you look in the core for Realism Invictus, you can't expect to find anything useful.

ls612 said:

Well, when you look in the core for Realism Invictus, you can't expect to find anything useful.

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Yeah it kinda helps if you are looking in the correct mod.

There may be some in Modules/Resources/NewResource.

@FilochardI have not done any sea critter promotions since it will require a new combat class. Promotions are set by class and all wild animals have the same class at present.