Quick Answers / 'Newbie' Questions

telgardrakore said:

Hello, just started playing this game after having it sit in my CD case for a good many years. I have a question that I had absolutely no idea how to search for since the question isn't Google search friendly. I have been playing a game with what I thought was 6 other factions (The game is currently now at 1914 AD, so for 5914 game years it was ONLY 6 others) and the entire game map revealed except for a very small portion of ocean and the artics. I am just about to finish satalite research so i can see the entire map and all of a sudden I get a "Hi are you friend or foe?!? " communication from a civilization that never existed before. I do the usual "Yup Im a friend " response and 5 cities that were previously one of my allies change into a new color and this new civilization has taken over them and become a vassel of my allies.

Now I know this civilization never existed before because the cities they now own were my allies. The civilization never participated in the Apostol vote, and now that the civilization exists its in the Apostol vote at only 3 votes. Where the hell did it come from? Can you create a new leader and appoint them as a vassel over territories you no longer want to deal with? Can a civilization literally hide on a small island with only one town in a less then 4x4 fog of war block and literally never join the Apostol vote, never make a new town, never build a ship to explore, never attempt communication with anyone, never leave the island and never be seen until the 1900's?

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Sisiutil said:

IIRC, at exactly 10/10 XPs, yes, the promotion will remain available. However, promotions unavailable to the upgraded unit remain unavailable. ... at promotion levels above 10 XPs (for example, 17/17), unless you assign the promotion before upgrading, you'll lose it, as an upgraded unit automatically goes back down to 10 XPs.

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UnforcedError said:

@telgaldrakore: Your ally simply created a colony, who then automatically became his vassal. You can do that as well in your games (the colonize button is on the bottom right of the city screen). It's sometimes a reasonably good idea, if you want to save maintenance or want a vassal for happy reasons, or someone to vote for you etc. The leader and civ you get is random (but it will be someone who's not on the map yet).

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Tachywaxon said:

Globally, it is wrong assumption that the resulting colony leader is random. Many leaders create random offsprings, but some are XML-coded to favor some civilizations first.

For instance, Romans generate Byzantine.

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nerdfighter13 said:

I just won a cultural victory, but I only had two cities with legendary culture. I was also in a permanent alliance. When I checked the game log, it didn't say anything about their cities. Just glad it happened. There were only three turns left, and my last city wouldn't have made it. My question is do their cities also contribute towards a cultural victory?

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nerdfighter13 said:

Thanks.So if you wanted, could you use a great artist in one of their cities? Or would you have to gift it to them?

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nerdfighter13 said:

Thanks.So if you wanted, could you use a great artist in one of their cities? Or would you have to gift it to them?

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UnforcedError said:

You'd have to gift it.

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God-Emperor said:

And then, being an idiot, it would probably use it in the wrong city. But it would still be worth attempting.

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God-Emperor said:

And then, being an idiot, it would probably use it in the wrong city. But it would still be worth attempting.

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Tachywaxon said:

Not completely sure the AI is completely idiotic here because it is the only victory where a true strategy was coded: different stages of AI strategy to cultural victory. But I certainly won't gainsay you without taking a peek in the code given you are far stronger than me in terms of programming.

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AdamCrock said:

I thought that the only hard-coded strategy for AI was the "space race" since he would never trade rocketry and seems to be inclined to get Apollo up and running asap and based on my observations I can say that AI cares little about diplo too Though my observations might be wrong since I am real diplo-crusher for the AI's

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AdamCrock said:

I thought that the only hard-coded strategy for AI was the "space race" since he would never trade rocketry and seems to be inclined to get Apollo up and running asap and based on my observations I can say that AI cares little about diplo too Though my observations might be wrong since I am real diplo-crusher for the AI's

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void CvPlayerAI::AI_launch(VictoryTypes eVictory)
{
	if (GET_TEAM(getTeam()).isHuman())
	{
		return;
	}

	if (!GET_TEAM(getTeam()).canLaunch(eVictory))
	{
		return;
	}

	bool bLaunch = true;

	int iBestArrival = MAX_INT;
	TeamTypes eBestTeam = NO_TEAM;

	for (int iTeam = 0; iTeam < MAX_CIV_TEAMS; ++iTeam)
	{
		if (iTeam != getTeam())
		{
			CvTeam& kTeam = GET_TEAM((TeamTypes)iTeam);
			if (kTeam.isAlive())
			{
				int iCountdown = kTeam.getVictoryCountdown(eVictory);
				if (iCountdown > 0)
				{
					if (iCountdown < iBestArrival)
					{
						iBestArrival = iCountdown;
						eBestTeam = (TeamTypes)iTeam;
					}

					if (iCountdown < GET_TEAM(getTeam()).getVictoryDelay(eVictory) && kTeam.getLaunchSuccessRate(eVictory) == 100)
					{
						bLaunch = false;
						break;
					}
				}
			}
		}
	}

	if (bLaunch)
	{
		if (NO_TEAM == eBestTeam || iBestArrival > GET_TEAM(getTeam()).getVictoryDelay(eVictory))
		{
			if (GET_TEAM(getTeam()).getLaunchSuccessRate(eVictory) < 100)
			{
				bLaunch = false;
			}
		}
	}

	if (bLaunch)
	{
		launch(eVictory);
	}
}