Gauntlet Suggestions

Is there a reason the HoF, and thus by extension the gauntlets, don't use some of the more obscure map types (such as the aforementioned Ring)? I think this could be quite fun as they are seemingly used infrequently.
 
Xger said:
Is there a reason the HoF, and thus by extension the gauntlets, don't use some of the more obscure map types (such as the aforementioned Ring)? I think this could be quite fun as they are seemingly used infrequently.
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They aren't used because you have too much knowledge about the map.
 
Ozbenno said:
Yep that's right. Some of these maps were designed for MP so we steer clear...
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Will there be a point where the list is expanded? The native map script list is quite long, and some might make for interesting gauntlets.
 
Emperor,Diplomacy, Alexander,Archipelago ,Standart,Standart
Prince, Domination, Bismarck, Continents, Epic, Small
Warlord,Culture, Ramsess II, Continents, Standart, Standart
King,Science,Washington,Continents, Epic, Small
Emperor,Science, Augustus, Earth, Standart, Standart
 
G&K

Prince, Attila, Domination, Epic, Standart, Pangea
Emperor, Sejong, Science, Standart, Small, Large Islands
Emperor, Pacal, Diplomacy, Standart, Small, OCC, Earth
 
Is there a reason the HoF, and thus by extension the gauntlets, don't use some of the more obscure map types (such as the aforementioned Ring)? I think this could be quite fun as they are seemingly used infrequently.
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They aren't used because you have too much knowledge about the map.
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I'm not sure that that argument can be used. If I play a Great Plains map, one glance at the starting position and I have a very good idea where I am on the map, and I also have lots of knowledge about the map.

Yep that's right. Some of these maps were designed for MP so we steer clear...
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I would agree that the MP maps should not be used. But others, like the new Europe script would be fun. However, I can see a reason for trying to limit the number of maps. There are already way too many combinations :crazyeye:
 
ultimate naval battle:
dido, standard, standard, immortal, archipelago, domination victory

opponents must be:
elizabeth, suleiman, william, theodora, washington, napolean, alexander
 
I suggested some before...
Genghis.Khan said:
G&K

Prince, Attila, Domination, Epic, Standart, Pangea
Emperor, Sejong, Science, Standart, Small, Large Islands
Emperor, Pacal, Diplomacy, Standart, Small, OCC, Earth
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The Best Game Ever Would be

Settler,Small,Marathon,Domination,Attila,Great Plains
 
Spain, Tiny Isands, Large, Epic, King, Space.

Ethiopia, Rainforest, Standard, Standard, Prince, Culture.

Carthage, Archipelago, Huge, Standard, Deity, Domination. (Speaking of ultimate naval warfare) ;)
 
no more spain gauntlets please; please have an "except spain" on future any leader gauntlets.
spain's ability coupled with certain natural wonders is game breaking. given that natural wonders are random, spain becomes the ultimate reroll civ and the one with the most potential. in the latest gminor, having found the great barrier reef on turn 4 with spain, i was able to shave a full 10% off compared to my best time with a legitimate civ.
 
vexing said:
no more spain gauntlets please; please have an "except spain" on future any leader gauntlets.
spain's ability coupled with certain natural wonders is game breaking. given that natural wonders are random, spain becomes the ultimate reroll civ and the one with the most potential. in the latest gminor, having found the great barrier reef on turn 4 with spain, i was able to shave a full 10% off compared to my best time with a legitimate civ.
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Spain is like the Inca civ IV :)
 
Peets said:
Spain is like the Inca civ IV :)
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Nothing can be as overpowered as Inca in Civ IV and still pass quality control on release. Inca has no RNG dependence on being able to build the Quechua (with free Combat I promotion, needing no Resource) starting on turn 0. However, it is most effective at the highest four Difficulty levels where Archers are the sole AI defenders. Quechuas can easily steal Workers, even killing Archer "escorts". The Quechua is the perfect early Ancient Era choke unit denying AIs early Horse, Copper and Iron resources. Stolen workers develop the land and eventually chop more Quechuas. The AI Civs have no chance of defending their 1-3 early cities against stacks of these dirt cheap Quechuas. Inca's only Leader has the best Traits too.

Civ IV Inca players can win with 30% fewer turns than non-Inca players. vexing's claim of a 10% better result with Civ V's Spain versus non-Spain wins pales in comparison.

Sun Tzu Wu
 
Peets said:
Spain is like the Inca civ IV :)
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i'd say it's worse from a competition standpoint. spain vs spain will have completely disparate results, entirely based on map roll.

Sun Tzu Wu said:
a 10% better result with Civ V's Spain versus non-Spain wins pales in comparison.
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that was a specific gauntlet with a culture VC. there'll be more disparity for diplomacy or space and higher difficulty levels.
 
pholtz said:
I would agree that the MP maps should not be used. But others, like the new Europe script would be fun. However, I can see a reason for trying to limit the number of maps. There are already way too many combinations :crazyeye:
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I definitely agree, the non-MP maps like Europe should be in there. Sure, you know the rough shape of the map, roughly what zones there are. But that's also the case with any of the maps that don't wrap, like both great plains, highlands, inland sea.

The new, included maps also don't fit in with the desire to only compare games with a very limited sample, those where the settings are more or less the same. Continents doesn't get compared with Pangaea, even if it's the same size/speed/civ, but now rainforest continents does get compared with rainforest pangaea.
 
Here is a suggestion:

Deity Culture <any leader except spain> Pangea
 
vexing said:
no more spain gauntlets please; please have an "except spain" on future any leader gauntlets.
spain's ability coupled with certain natural wonders is game breaking. given that natural wonders are random, spain becomes the ultimate reroll civ and the one with the most potential. in the latest gminor, having found the great barrier reef on turn 4 with spain, i was able to shave a full 10% off compared to my best time with a legitimate civ.
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For now my only option is to make Spain a required opponent when I use Any Leader. Edit: dumb, dumb, dumb - vanllia doesn't have spain. :blush:

I would have been avoiding picking a Vanilla civs with G&K just getting rolling in HOF. Using Any Leader allows an open gauntlet that includes players that don't have G&K and helps to seed new tables.
 
Denniz said:
For now my only option is to make Spain a required opponent when I use Any Leader. Edit: dumb, dumb, dumb - vanllia doesn't have spain. :blush:

I would have been avoiding picking a Vanilla civs with G&K just getting rolling in HOF. Using Any Leader allows an open gauntlet that includes players that don't have G&K and helps to seed new tables.
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This doesn't seem to preclude a Any Leader minus Issabella.
 
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