FfH Vinegar:
Modmod for base FfH
Download here
This is applied as a patch over base FfH.
This is yet another of many modmods that tweaks the base FfH game somewhat. I'm still in the process of making sure some of these changes are working and testing their balance, but figured I might as well put this out now to see if anyone's interested, and perhaps get some outside feedback on these changes. I also have a number of changes I'd like to make, these are described below.
Current changes from Fall From Heaven
The SDK and a few other supporting files from Tholal's More Naval AI mod added.
Amurites
*Govannon's teach spellcasting spell now effects all units, instead of merely teaching only to units on his tile. Govannon only starts with channeling 2, but is accessible at Sorcery rather than Arcane Lore.
This change is to reduce micromanagement, so Govannon no longer has to run around teaching units his spells.
*Amurites get a unique unit, Arcanists, to replace Archmages. these unit get twincast, but are otherwise the same.
This was recommended by this post.
*New Spell: Energy Node. Usable by great sages. Sacrifices the caster, creates a raw mana node.
Council of Esus
*New building, the Coven of Esus. requires Esus as a state religion, currently provides +2 experience to recon units, +1 trade route, and a merchant slot. Increases crime rate by 20.
The abilities of this building may change in the future. Recon bonuses are meant ot synergize somewhat with the Svartalfar, and thematically fit the religion, trade routes and merchants are meant to represent a black market like effect. I'm hoping to create a building that differentiates somewhat from other religions, but without too much focus on recon units alone.
*New unit: Nightstalker.
Currently has:
4/3 strength +1 poison,
2 movement
Invisible
Sentry
50% withdrawal chance.
Is a recon unit, can upgrade to shadows. Requires Esus as state religion, the deception technology, and the Coven of Esus building to be built. Will leave is the state religion changes.
The current stats were chosen to fill a slightly different role to assasins and rangers. The roles I have in mind are either hidden hit and run attacks, to harass enemy units in a somewhat different way to horse units, or to attack weak enemy units in their territory. If the unit iends up being overpowered (which seems a good possibility), I'll likely limit its numbers of units per civilization to 4-8.
*New spells
All of these spells require the Council of Esus to be a state religion, and are cast by a unit with the Council of Esus as a religion. They have been tested for game mechanics, and appear to work, apart from the spells to remove specific religions. They have not been tested in a full game yet. (I'll probably do this while testing some civilization changes, and playing other civilizations that I have little experience.)
-"Black Market": costs 50 gold, creates a building that provides 5 health, but costs 10 gold per turn. (I'll probably reduce this in the next update. Original logic was from the planetfall mod, that has an antistarvation mechanics that costs 2 money per food needed to keep a base from starving.)
-"Seedy club": costs 50 gold, creates a building that adds 5 happiness but costs 15 gold per turn. (The per turn cost may be reduces as well. It should be high enough that the building won't just be built in every city, but low enough that the gold cost is worth it.)
-"Dark Healing" costs 50 gold, heals a unit completely.
-"Remove Religions" an inquisition like spell. Costs 50 gold, but casts instantly and does not cause any unhappiness. In setting terms, i imagine that while other religions make a big public deal out of removing non-state religions, the Esus leaders simply go "boy, those order priests are giving us trouble", and in a few days the order priests have suffered mysterious fatal accidents.
-"Remove Order", "Remove Ashen Veil", etc.: Cost 25 gold, and remove a specific religion from a city, while leaving the others unaffected.
New eras for Illians and Grigori
These new eras should add some music diversity to these civilizations to make up for the lack of religious music. The music I've picked comes from the warcraft games and guild wars, but I'm certainly open to adding music ideas that other people would think would work well. (Artistic tastes varying the way they do, I might not agree, but would be happy to adjust the files and prepare specialized music if someone wants some for these eras, and isn't sure how to do this themselves.)
Luchuirp
*New golem promotion system: Adularia chamber, Pallens engine, Blasting workshop now provide golems with "mode" spells. These spells are used to specialize the golems which provides certain promotions, but removes other promotions associated with other modes. Current modes and promotions:
Blasting mode: The golem can cast fireball
Sentry mode: The golem has guardsman and perfect sight
Fast Mode: The golem has mobility 1
*Drop Hammer
Added a new spell to allow units to drop golden hammers they are carrying (no more sacrificial hammer scouts). AI implications, and needed adjustments, haven't been tested yet. (Hopefully it won't end up in an infinite "drop and pick up" loop, though for next update I'll be looking through how other items are handled.)
Grigori
*New Spell: Inspire. Usable by great engineers, great sages, great bards, great merchants, and great prophets
Reduces the great person requirements by 1 great person (So, if the current great person requirement is 500 points, and the previous was 300 points, the spell will drop the requirement to 300 points). Also provides a bit less than half this requirement to the city the unit is in.
This is added to take some sting out of building wonders, for instance, and getting sages or engineers when you really want adventurers.
*New Grigori specific great people: Immigrants (expansion oriented), and Master Craftsmen (Fill several "normal" great person roles.)
*Great person changes:
Adventurer:
-Can use "Heroic story" within a city, and inspiration like spell that provides +2 culture and +2 experience to units built within the city. This is to help early cities build some culture, or add culture than religion would normally provide.
-Can upgrade to medics and Luonnotars.
Immigrant:
-Acts as a fast worker (3x faster work rate)
-Can "Join to city", adding 2 population to the city. the spell also provides a "Skilled Administrator" great specialist, who adds +2 health and +2 happiness
-Can "Settle". This creates a new city with 3 population and 25 culture, allowing it to work 2 spaces out immediately. The spell also changes the immigrant into a worker.
Master Craftsman.
-Can Culture bomb and Speed production. These abilities provide 2.5x the effect of bards and engineers, to compensate the the reduced number of craftsmen.
-Can cast the "craftsman shop" spell that provides +2 culture per turn and +2 production to a city. This spell is to help early cities get going more quickly.
-Can be sacrificed to build a "Master Craftsman's workshop", "Artist's Studio", or "Craftsman's Laboratory" in a city. These buildings provides +40% production, +75% culture, and +75% science, respectively.
*New Great Person generating system:
Instead of having buildings provide great person points directly, Grigori specific great people are generated by specialists.
-Storytellers generate adventurer points, and provide +3 culture
-Administrators provide immigrant points, and produce +3 gold
-Craftsmen produce Master craftsman points, and produce +2 materials
-Most buildings (Inns, Taverns, Grigori capital) that provided adventuere points before, now provide specialist slots. The Capital, Grigori Inn, and Grigori Tavern all provide 1 of each specialist slot. Museums provide 1 craftsman slot, Adventurer's guilds provide 1 storyteller slot, and Grigori Tribunals (A courthouse replacement) provide 1 administrator slot.
*Other changes
The Grigori capital provides a free specialist. This is to get great person production started early, as the current capital does, without needed to sacrifice a worker.
The grigori tribunal is a courthouse replacement that provides +1 happiness and an administrator specialist slot. Since the lore forum posts describe force as the magic type representing making and keeping agreements (Or at least, that's how it seems when I read them), the grigori seem the right civilization to get some extra courthouse benefits.
Sidar
Shades from level 6 units removed. Instead, three different spells are added for high level units:
-Wane level 6: Adds the stealth promotion, and the "shade" racial promotion, at the moment giving extra damage vs. undead and resistance to death damage.
-Wane level 8: (forget the exact name) Adds the invisible promotion.
-Wane leve l10 (incorporeal): Adds the immortal promotion
*New ritual: Wane citizens. 80 production costs, requires Necromancy, the city looses 4 population and produces 2 shades.
*New unit: Shadow guardian. Strength 7, illusion, held, requires necromancy. Only 1 can be in a city at a time.
*New Building: Waned City: Provides 4 free specialists, reduces trade income by 50%, foreign income by 100%, production and commerce by 10%. Requires education.
*Sever soul now available to all recon units.
Malakim
*Desert changes: Deserts no longer produce an additional +1 trade for the Malakim. Instead, improvements on non-floodplains desert improve yields in a way that mimics +1 production and +1 commerce.
*Desert Improvements: Malakim get a few new desert Improvements, to help make desert terrain competetive with other types of terrain.
-Desert Farm: Uses plantation art. Produces +2 food, +1 hammer, +1 commerce. Requires irrigation, spreads irrigation. Effected by Agrarianism, Aristocracy, and Sanitation as normal farms are.
-Desert Mine: Uses Quarry art. Produces +2 hammer, +1 commerce, +1 commerce if irrigated, +1 hammer with engineering.
-Trade Post: Produces +1 production, +2 commerce. Produces +1 food if irrigated, spreads irrigation. Art 9and the general idea) is taken from RiFE, possibly other mods, bedouin improvements, though the effects are different. Upgrades to Trade Crossroads if worked.
-Trade Crossroads: Produces +1 commerce over trade posts, otherwise same yields. Upgrades to trade settlement.
-Trade Settlement: Produces +1 commerce over trade crossroads, otherwise same yields.
-Oasis: Spell copied from RiFE, though without sacrificing the caster, and with a lower separation requirement from other Oases. Supplies irrigation.
To prevent building these improvements, converting to plains, and getting really high yield terrain (keep in mind that yields of these improvements are now on top of no normal production deserts), the scorch and vitalize spells convert the improvements to types more fitting for wet terrain. Desert mines get eliminated, Desert farms change to normal farms, Trade posts, crossroads, and settlements get changed to cottages, hamlets, and villages, respectively.
*Malakim can now build priest units without needing particular state religions. (This was done through unique units). Temple requirements, and other requirements, are still in place.
*New unit: Ascetics. Disciple units, requires fanaticism, start with 7 strength, can use copper, iron, or mithril weapons. Ascetics get a free "ascetic of (religion)" promotion that changes based on the Malakim state religion. Only 4 are allowed at a time.
-Order: Ascetics gain immunity to fear and capture, gain 100% death and unholy resistance, gain 75% fire resistance.
-Empyrean: Can see invisible, can attack multiple times a turn, gain 15% health back after combat.
-Runes of Kilmorph: Acts as a guardsman, acts as a 20% healing medic, 40% chance to do a 20% defensive strike.
-Fellowship of Leaves: Heals an extra 20% in enemy, neutral, and friendly territory, can use enemy roads, immune ot defensive and first strikes, gets 2 first strikes.
-Octopus Overlords: Causes fear, can walk on water
-Council of Esus: Acts as a marksman promotion
-Ashen Veil: +1 poison damage, +1 unholy damage, +1 death damage, immune to holy damage
*Bazaar: replaces market. Looses the +3 gold, gains +1 trade route, +1 happiness from reagents, incense
Doviello
*Hunting Pack
This is a new improvement, with five levels, that can be created by animal units. Each level of the building adds an extra 2 food (So, for example, the first level, I forget what its called, provides 2 food, the 4th level produces 8 food, etc.). Levels 1, 3, and 5 add an extra 5% military production as well, levels 2,4,5 add 1 production also. (so level 1 produces +5% military production, level 4 adds 2 hammers, +10% military production).
Hunting pack level 1 may be built by any animal, and an additional animal is needed for level 2, another for 3, etc.
*Brawling Pit
This is a training yard replacement, which costs a lot less than a normal training yard, and provides 2 experience.
*Doviello Camp
Idea taken from Wildmana. The Doviello can build hunting camps without the hunting advance.
* Survivalist Promotion, Tame Animal
The Doviello now automatically get a "survivalist" promotion rather than the winterborn promotion. this survivalist promotion is the same as the winterborn promotion, but also captures animals as well.
Tame animal is a spell that can be used to capture barbarian animals in the same square.
Both of these abilities are added to allow Doviello to get some "seed" animals for hunting packs.
*Unit Spawns
Doviello cities spawn wolvess and melee units. The animal spawn rate is 2% per turn in each city, plus an extra 2% for whichever level of hunting pack improvement is in the city. Melee units spawn at a 2% per turn in each city, plus 4% if a brawling pit is in the city. The melee unit that spawns is a battlemaster if Iron Working has been discovered, a Son of Asena if iron working was not discovered but bronze working is not, and a Beastman otherwise. Wolves spawn with 4 attack if hunting has been discovered, and 6 strength if animal handling was discovered.
Elohim
*Monk Promotions
Monks now gain additional promotions if the civilization has certain types of mana. These types are the "good" types, plus earth, and all can be gotten from features or from founding "good" religions.
Earth: Monks gain magic resistance.
Enchantment: Monks gain +1 combat strength.
Life: Monks gain an enhanced medic like ability.
Law: defends against marksman units, +1 defense.
Sun: Sees invisible, +1 offense
*New Spell: Sanctify Sepulcher
This changes the broken sepulcher to supply enchantment mana rather than death mana (Both preventing the diplomatic penalty, and providing the monk promotion.)
*Bonuses from unique improvements
Each of these effects are updated every 10 turns.
-Spirit Guardian spawn: Spirit guardians (7 strength, heal instantly after combat, held), will spawn on any unique improvements within Elohim territory if no other units are on the same square.
-Monastery: Requires Writing, 1 can be built for every 3 libraries the Elohim have. On their own, monasteries supply +2 culture and +2 science, and supply additional culture the more improvements the elohim control.
-Hall of Preservation: If a city has a hall of preservation, and the Elohim control particular unique features the city gains bonuses to food, hammers, gold, or science.
In order to "control" a unique improvement for culture and resource purposes, the Elohim must , with decreasing bonuses to production, either have it within their territory, have an open borders agreement with a civilization with the improvement in its territory, or be at peace with the civilization who has the improvement.
Civics
Agrarianism: effects changed to
+1 food from farms, Desert Farms, Pastures
+1 food, +1 gold from plantations
+1 health in all cities
-15% science
-15% production
Social Order, Consumption, Military State, Mercantilism: copied the Wildmana changes to these civics.
Foreign trade: Changed from +1 to +2 coastal trade routes.
Overlords
*New Spell: Call of the Overlords (Note: doesn't actually work at the moment, for reasons I am not sure of.). This spell enrages nearby enemy units. Usable by cultists.
This spell was added to give Cultists some use on land. It may be adjusted to have a resist chance.
Spells
*Bloom
Bloom can now be cast by nature 2 mages. This is a change taken from the MagisterCultuum mod, to help out non fellowship elf civilizations.
*Lichdom
Two extra spells have been added for Life 3 (Everlast) and Body 3 (Ageless) that can convert the caster into a Lich unit. Lich units created by this spell will have different promotions, Everlast Liches are angels, Ageless Liches do not change the caster's racial promotion. (Liches, rather than new units, are used to keep the cap of 4 archmages and 4 archmage like units.)
This change was made to diversify the mana types that allow a civilization to double its archmages. The different promotions are partially to thematically fit with the different magic spheres, and partially so that Life Liches cannot destroy themselves if they use destroy undead.
Fellowship Of Leaves/Forests
*Forest Preserves
These improvements can be built on Ancient forests, and add +2 commerce and +.5 happiness. They are made available at Hidden Paths, and are meant to give non-elf civilizations following the Fellowship religion something like a watered down elf economy.
*Elves and Guardian of Nature
The two Elven civilizations now get .5 happiness from forests and ancient forests. Guardian of Nature now merely gives .5 happiness from forests, jungles, and ancient forests. Overall, the changes mean that Elves playing a typical cottage FoL forest economy, and other civilizations using Guardian of Nature with preserves aren't effected, but it does provide non FOL Elves some extra benefit, reducing the synergy somewhat.
FfH Acetum Cucumbis
This mod me be found here. It is quite thin at the moment, though is being worked on to include the plans described below and in the other thread.
Additional Mana and Mana effects
For spells, I'd probably just look through what other Modmods use, though perhaps with a few adjustments.
For civilizations, my sense of symmetry is best served by giving each new mana to about 2 civilizations. Likely civilizations are:
Ice: Illians already have it, Doviello would likely get it as well.
Force: Grigori would get it (since it's their patron mana type). Not sure of another one, Force may be a Grigori palace only mana.
Creation: Kuriotates patron mana, so they would get it. Luchuirp are the most likely secondary civilization, though Ljosalfar also seem a possibility.
Dimensional: Sheaim definitely. Amurites seem a second possibility, though I could also see Balseraphs.
*Other: To keep my visual sense happy, I'm planning to add another mana type to keep the "mana box" even. At the moment, my most likely plan is to simple use raw mana as a final "mana" type. This would not provide any additional spells, or would provide relatively generic spells, but would enhance the civilization in some other way. It would not be provided by most palaces.
*Mana effects: More effects would be added to mana types currently in the game. My current thoughts are:
-Nature: Improves Burnt forest -->New forest -->forest --> Ancient forest conversion rates, and increases the chance for forests ot randomly grow. (this is an idea I've read somewhere else, though I don't remember where)
-Force: Improves diplomatic relations with everyone
-Creation: Improves farm resource discovery rates, or possibly population growth rates.
White Hand
For this religion, I'd likely start by copying what's already in other mods. (Though the arrangement of ice and winter spells would be adjusted, and I'd probably remove the ice promotion from Priests of winter.) I'd also likely add some extra heroes, buildings, and/or possibly a stasis civic, though I haven't thought up the exact details yet. Heroes that are added might either be taken from the Illians or just made up.
Current detailed ideas:
*The prerequisite advances for this religion would likely be philosophy (possibly way of the wicked instead) and either elementalism or an Illians only advance given at the start. (to allowIllians to grab the religion quickly.)
*Ice based plot counter. I'll likely look up how the purity counter in some mods works, or otherwise look at the armegeddon code, to create a second such counter based around how cold the world is. Unlike the armegeddon counter this wouldn't actually change the world or spawn units, it would only effect the strength of some Illian or White Hand units, and act as a prerequisite for some units to be built. (I imagine Drifa as becoming a White hand hero, than using this as a prerequisite rather than killing a civilization.)
Creation Religion
The idea for this religion as to be an opposition religion to the white hand. Where the white hand (from my impressions from several long Magister Cultuum posts), emphasizes keeping things the same and restricting change, and slows down all activity, the opposite religion should be one associated with many changes, new ideas, and more activity and improvement. the religion would be designed to synergize with the Kuriotates, and hopefully for the Luchuirp somewhat as well.
Current ideas:
* Shrine supplies creation mana, and either culture or science (possibly great person point, if I can figure it out and prefer the idea)
* One Archmage hero. After reading the bestiary, this would likely be a pixie, who uses skills from helping artists or inventors for more warlike purposes.
* Also after reading the bestiary (See the Nantosuelta section), an "enchanted weapon" hero. I imagine this as more a physical combat type of hero, though possibly able to use enchantment magic. If I can figure out a way to do so, this hero will have some method for equipping themselves, or at least a mechanic representing units using them as a piece of equipment, as well as fighting on its own.
* Regular priests would have two "enchanted weapon" spells, a bow one, and a melee one. Each of these weapons could fight on their own, with a strength equivalent to a tier 1-tier 2 equivalent unit, or could be added to other units as equipment to improve those unit's strengths. The melee would provide straightforward combat bonuses, the bow would provide first strikes and defensive strikes.
* The religion would likely have a set of 3-5 national wonders, supplying various health and happiness resources, and providing bonuses for other health and happiness resources. (This in particular is something I have in mind to synergize with the Kuriotates.)
I'll probably read the lore forum somewhat to get ideas, but won't worry too much about sticking exactly to it if/when I get around to creating these religions.
spells
I might rearrange the spells so that particular spheres are more focused for particular areas, rather than the current system which is somewhat random. Exact details are still fuzzy at the moment, though I'd likely have Fire as a collateral damage/stack damage sphere, air as a more AoE oriented sphere, and death staying the same as the summoning sphere it currently is. Some spheres would be oriented towards terraforming in particular directions.
New Civilization
The ideas for this civilization comes partially from the Austrin, and partially from the Raw mana type being added earlier. I like the idea of each of the 21 main civilizations being based on a particular type of mana, and don't want to break up that symmetry, but also like some of the mechanics I've seen or read about for some of the newer civilizations. If Raw mana is included, however, this in my head allows a new civilization somehow based on it, that could be adapted to use some potentially interesting mechanics.
I'm still relatively vague on how I'll handle this civilization, but overall it will be an adaptable civ. Through some combination of rituals, spells, and civics, it will be able to easily change between several different "modes", providing different sorts of bonus promotions to different types of units, changing its Palace and possibly other buildings to different types, and providing different types of spells and other abilities. In addition, I'd likely allow alignments to be changed without having to switch religions. Exactly what bonuses and promotions get provided is something I haven't thought out yet, though i imagine an "explorer mode" that resembles the Austrin.
The Civilization trait for this civilization would likely act as an Adaptive trait (for the leader, though, not for the civilization), and allow fast civic changes similar to the Spiritual trait. The actual traits of the leader(s) I have not thought up yet.
In backstory terms, I imagine this civilization as a collection of random groups of people that came together in the Age of Ice, vaguely like the Doviello, though not becoming as feral, and getting very pragmatic in order to survive. As the age of ice ended, this group would assemble itself together as a mix of races, faiths, and such. Unlike the Kuriotates or Grigori, however, they would not have any sort of supernatural leader associated with any particular god, and as a result, would not have any particularly strong tendencies as a civilization in any particular direction. Fitting in with the my idea of it as the "Raw Mana" civilization, it would be a civilization that could be pulled in several different directions, with no strong forces to hold it into a particular way of running itself.
Mana and Espionage (if I can figure out DLL stuff well enough.)
Espionage will probably be mostly the same system as exists in standard Beyond the Sword, and other similar mods. Espionage missions will likely include some anti-stack abilities, in addition to the economic and sabotage missions already used.
Mana: Wildmana and RifE are doing it, so I might do it too.
Mana (the new commerce resource) will come from mana nodes, possibly buildings acting on mana nodes, and possibly specialists. Mana will likely be used to maintain permanent summons, possibly magical units themselves, mage buildings, and some buffs. It will also be required for terraforming spells, and more powerful (normal" spells. (Though channeling 1 and 2 spells would likely not require extra mana to cast, apart from terraforming and permanent summons.)
Both of these changes will depend on me being able to handle the necessary DLL changes to inmplement them directly, as well as a sense of how to handle AI for the new abilities introduced (If I were to add this, the AI would probably be pretty bad, as I am new at this sort of stuff, but hopefully I could get it somewhat passable.). I'd also want to take another crack at the main interface file, and see about rearranging how specialists are organized, to allow some to be added associated with these new resources.
The civilizations would of course be adjusted to take these new mechanics into account, if they were introduced.
Modmod for base FfH
Download here
This is applied as a patch over base FfH.
This is yet another of many modmods that tweaks the base FfH game somewhat. I'm still in the process of making sure some of these changes are working and testing their balance, but figured I might as well put this out now to see if anyone's interested, and perhaps get some outside feedback on these changes. I also have a number of changes I'd like to make, these are described below.
Current changes from Fall From Heaven
Spoiler :
The SDK and a few other supporting files from Tholal's More Naval AI mod added.
Amurites
Spoiler :
*Govannon's teach spellcasting spell now effects all units, instead of merely teaching only to units on his tile. Govannon only starts with channeling 2, but is accessible at Sorcery rather than Arcane Lore.
This change is to reduce micromanagement, so Govannon no longer has to run around teaching units his spells.
*Amurites get a unique unit, Arcanists, to replace Archmages. these unit get twincast, but are otherwise the same.
This was recommended by this post.
*New Spell: Energy Node. Usable by great sages. Sacrifices the caster, creates a raw mana node.
Council of Esus
Spoiler :
*New building, the Coven of Esus. requires Esus as a state religion, currently provides +2 experience to recon units, +1 trade route, and a merchant slot. Increases crime rate by 20.
The abilities of this building may change in the future. Recon bonuses are meant ot synergize somewhat with the Svartalfar, and thematically fit the religion, trade routes and merchants are meant to represent a black market like effect. I'm hoping to create a building that differentiates somewhat from other religions, but without too much focus on recon units alone.
*New unit: Nightstalker.
Currently has:
4/3 strength +1 poison,
2 movement
Invisible
Sentry
50% withdrawal chance.
Is a recon unit, can upgrade to shadows. Requires Esus as state religion, the deception technology, and the Coven of Esus building to be built. Will leave is the state religion changes.
The current stats were chosen to fill a slightly different role to assasins and rangers. The roles I have in mind are either hidden hit and run attacks, to harass enemy units in a somewhat different way to horse units, or to attack weak enemy units in their territory. If the unit iends up being overpowered (which seems a good possibility), I'll likely limit its numbers of units per civilization to 4-8.
*New spells
All of these spells require the Council of Esus to be a state religion, and are cast by a unit with the Council of Esus as a religion. They have been tested for game mechanics, and appear to work, apart from the spells to remove specific religions. They have not been tested in a full game yet. (I'll probably do this while testing some civilization changes, and playing other civilizations that I have little experience.)
-"Black Market": costs 50 gold, creates a building that provides 5 health, but costs 10 gold per turn. (I'll probably reduce this in the next update. Original logic was from the planetfall mod, that has an antistarvation mechanics that costs 2 money per food needed to keep a base from starving.)
-"Seedy club": costs 50 gold, creates a building that adds 5 happiness but costs 15 gold per turn. (The per turn cost may be reduces as well. It should be high enough that the building won't just be built in every city, but low enough that the gold cost is worth it.)
-"Dark Healing" costs 50 gold, heals a unit completely.
-"Remove Religions" an inquisition like spell. Costs 50 gold, but casts instantly and does not cause any unhappiness. In setting terms, i imagine that while other religions make a big public deal out of removing non-state religions, the Esus leaders simply go "boy, those order priests are giving us trouble", and in a few days the order priests have suffered mysterious fatal accidents.
-"Remove Order", "Remove Ashen Veil", etc.: Cost 25 gold, and remove a specific religion from a city, while leaving the others unaffected.
New eras for Illians and Grigori
Spoiler :
These new eras should add some music diversity to these civilizations to make up for the lack of religious music. The music I've picked comes from the warcraft games and guild wars, but I'm certainly open to adding music ideas that other people would think would work well. (Artistic tastes varying the way they do, I might not agree, but would be happy to adjust the files and prepare specialized music if someone wants some for these eras, and isn't sure how to do this themselves.)
Luchuirp
Spoiler :
*New golem promotion system: Adularia chamber, Pallens engine, Blasting workshop now provide golems with "mode" spells. These spells are used to specialize the golems which provides certain promotions, but removes other promotions associated with other modes. Current modes and promotions:
Blasting mode: The golem can cast fireball
Sentry mode: The golem has guardsman and perfect sight
Fast Mode: The golem has mobility 1
*Drop Hammer
Added a new spell to allow units to drop golden hammers they are carrying (no more sacrificial hammer scouts). AI implications, and needed adjustments, haven't been tested yet. (Hopefully it won't end up in an infinite "drop and pick up" loop, though for next update I'll be looking through how other items are handled.)
Grigori
Spoiler :
*New Spell: Inspire. Usable by great engineers, great sages, great bards, great merchants, and great prophets
Reduces the great person requirements by 1 great person (So, if the current great person requirement is 500 points, and the previous was 300 points, the spell will drop the requirement to 300 points). Also provides a bit less than half this requirement to the city the unit is in.
This is added to take some sting out of building wonders, for instance, and getting sages or engineers when you really want adventurers.
*New Grigori specific great people: Immigrants (expansion oriented), and Master Craftsmen (Fill several "normal" great person roles.)
*Great person changes:
Adventurer:
-Can use "Heroic story" within a city, and inspiration like spell that provides +2 culture and +2 experience to units built within the city. This is to help early cities build some culture, or add culture than religion would normally provide.
-Can upgrade to medics and Luonnotars.
Immigrant:
-Acts as a fast worker (3x faster work rate)
-Can "Join to city", adding 2 population to the city. the spell also provides a "Skilled Administrator" great specialist, who adds +2 health and +2 happiness
-Can "Settle". This creates a new city with 3 population and 25 culture, allowing it to work 2 spaces out immediately. The spell also changes the immigrant into a worker.
Master Craftsman.
-Can Culture bomb and Speed production. These abilities provide 2.5x the effect of bards and engineers, to compensate the the reduced number of craftsmen.
-Can cast the "craftsman shop" spell that provides +2 culture per turn and +2 production to a city. This spell is to help early cities get going more quickly.
-Can be sacrificed to build a "Master Craftsman's workshop", "Artist's Studio", or "Craftsman's Laboratory" in a city. These buildings provides +40% production, +75% culture, and +75% science, respectively.
*New Great Person generating system:
Instead of having buildings provide great person points directly, Grigori specific great people are generated by specialists.
-Storytellers generate adventurer points, and provide +3 culture
-Administrators provide immigrant points, and produce +3 gold
-Craftsmen produce Master craftsman points, and produce +2 materials
-Most buildings (Inns, Taverns, Grigori capital) that provided adventuere points before, now provide specialist slots. The Capital, Grigori Inn, and Grigori Tavern all provide 1 of each specialist slot. Museums provide 1 craftsman slot, Adventurer's guilds provide 1 storyteller slot, and Grigori Tribunals (A courthouse replacement) provide 1 administrator slot.
*Other changes
The Grigori capital provides a free specialist. This is to get great person production started early, as the current capital does, without needed to sacrifice a worker.
The grigori tribunal is a courthouse replacement that provides +1 happiness and an administrator specialist slot. Since the lore forum posts describe force as the magic type representing making and keeping agreements (Or at least, that's how it seems when I read them), the grigori seem the right civilization to get some extra courthouse benefits.
Sidar
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Shades from level 6 units removed. Instead, three different spells are added for high level units:
-Wane level 6: Adds the stealth promotion, and the "shade" racial promotion, at the moment giving extra damage vs. undead and resistance to death damage.
-Wane level 8: (forget the exact name) Adds the invisible promotion.
-Wane leve l10 (incorporeal): Adds the immortal promotion
*New ritual: Wane citizens. 80 production costs, requires Necromancy, the city looses 4 population and produces 2 shades.
*New unit: Shadow guardian. Strength 7, illusion, held, requires necromancy. Only 1 can be in a city at a time.
*New Building: Waned City: Provides 4 free specialists, reduces trade income by 50%, foreign income by 100%, production and commerce by 10%. Requires education.
*Sever soul now available to all recon units.
Malakim
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*Desert changes: Deserts no longer produce an additional +1 trade for the Malakim. Instead, improvements on non-floodplains desert improve yields in a way that mimics +1 production and +1 commerce.
*Desert Improvements: Malakim get a few new desert Improvements, to help make desert terrain competetive with other types of terrain.
-Desert Farm: Uses plantation art. Produces +2 food, +1 hammer, +1 commerce. Requires irrigation, spreads irrigation. Effected by Agrarianism, Aristocracy, and Sanitation as normal farms are.
-Desert Mine: Uses Quarry art. Produces +2 hammer, +1 commerce, +1 commerce if irrigated, +1 hammer with engineering.
-Trade Post: Produces +1 production, +2 commerce. Produces +1 food if irrigated, spreads irrigation. Art 9and the general idea) is taken from RiFE, possibly other mods, bedouin improvements, though the effects are different. Upgrades to Trade Crossroads if worked.
-Trade Crossroads: Produces +1 commerce over trade posts, otherwise same yields. Upgrades to trade settlement.
-Trade Settlement: Produces +1 commerce over trade crossroads, otherwise same yields.
-Oasis: Spell copied from RiFE, though without sacrificing the caster, and with a lower separation requirement from other Oases. Supplies irrigation.
To prevent building these improvements, converting to plains, and getting really high yield terrain (keep in mind that yields of these improvements are now on top of no normal production deserts), the scorch and vitalize spells convert the improvements to types more fitting for wet terrain. Desert mines get eliminated, Desert farms change to normal farms, Trade posts, crossroads, and settlements get changed to cottages, hamlets, and villages, respectively.
*Malakim can now build priest units without needing particular state religions. (This was done through unique units). Temple requirements, and other requirements, are still in place.
*New unit: Ascetics. Disciple units, requires fanaticism, start with 7 strength, can use copper, iron, or mithril weapons. Ascetics get a free "ascetic of (religion)" promotion that changes based on the Malakim state religion. Only 4 are allowed at a time.
-Order: Ascetics gain immunity to fear and capture, gain 100% death and unholy resistance, gain 75% fire resistance.
-Empyrean: Can see invisible, can attack multiple times a turn, gain 15% health back after combat.
-Runes of Kilmorph: Acts as a guardsman, acts as a 20% healing medic, 40% chance to do a 20% defensive strike.
-Fellowship of Leaves: Heals an extra 20% in enemy, neutral, and friendly territory, can use enemy roads, immune ot defensive and first strikes, gets 2 first strikes.
-Octopus Overlords: Causes fear, can walk on water
-Council of Esus: Acts as a marksman promotion
-Ashen Veil: +1 poison damage, +1 unholy damage, +1 death damage, immune to holy damage
*Bazaar: replaces market. Looses the +3 gold, gains +1 trade route, +1 happiness from reagents, incense
Doviello
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*Hunting Pack
This is a new improvement, with five levels, that can be created by animal units. Each level of the building adds an extra 2 food (So, for example, the first level, I forget what its called, provides 2 food, the 4th level produces 8 food, etc.). Levels 1, 3, and 5 add an extra 5% military production as well, levels 2,4,5 add 1 production also. (so level 1 produces +5% military production, level 4 adds 2 hammers, +10% military production).
Hunting pack level 1 may be built by any animal, and an additional animal is needed for level 2, another for 3, etc.
*Brawling Pit
This is a training yard replacement, which costs a lot less than a normal training yard, and provides 2 experience.
*Doviello Camp
Idea taken from Wildmana. The Doviello can build hunting camps without the hunting advance.
* Survivalist Promotion, Tame Animal
The Doviello now automatically get a "survivalist" promotion rather than the winterborn promotion. this survivalist promotion is the same as the winterborn promotion, but also captures animals as well.
Tame animal is a spell that can be used to capture barbarian animals in the same square.
Both of these abilities are added to allow Doviello to get some "seed" animals for hunting packs.
*Unit Spawns
Doviello cities spawn wolvess and melee units. The animal spawn rate is 2% per turn in each city, plus an extra 2% for whichever level of hunting pack improvement is in the city. Melee units spawn at a 2% per turn in each city, plus 4% if a brawling pit is in the city. The melee unit that spawns is a battlemaster if Iron Working has been discovered, a Son of Asena if iron working was not discovered but bronze working is not, and a Beastman otherwise. Wolves spawn with 4 attack if hunting has been discovered, and 6 strength if animal handling was discovered.
Elohim
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*Monk Promotions
Monks now gain additional promotions if the civilization has certain types of mana. These types are the "good" types, plus earth, and all can be gotten from features or from founding "good" religions.
Earth: Monks gain magic resistance.
Enchantment: Monks gain +1 combat strength.
Life: Monks gain an enhanced medic like ability.
Law: defends against marksman units, +1 defense.
Sun: Sees invisible, +1 offense
*New Spell: Sanctify Sepulcher
This changes the broken sepulcher to supply enchantment mana rather than death mana (Both preventing the diplomatic penalty, and providing the monk promotion.)
*Bonuses from unique improvements
Each of these effects are updated every 10 turns.
-Spirit Guardian spawn: Spirit guardians (7 strength, heal instantly after combat, held), will spawn on any unique improvements within Elohim territory if no other units are on the same square.
-Monastery: Requires Writing, 1 can be built for every 3 libraries the Elohim have. On their own, monasteries supply +2 culture and +2 science, and supply additional culture the more improvements the elohim control.
-Hall of Preservation: If a city has a hall of preservation, and the Elohim control particular unique features the city gains bonuses to food, hammers, gold, or science.
In order to "control" a unique improvement for culture and resource purposes, the Elohim must , with decreasing bonuses to production, either have it within their territory, have an open borders agreement with a civilization with the improvement in its territory, or be at peace with the civilization who has the improvement.
Civics
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Agrarianism: effects changed to
+1 food from farms, Desert Farms, Pastures
+1 food, +1 gold from plantations
+1 health in all cities
-15% science
-15% production
Social Order, Consumption, Military State, Mercantilism: copied the Wildmana changes to these civics.
Foreign trade: Changed from +1 to +2 coastal trade routes.
Overlords
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*New Spell: Call of the Overlords (Note: doesn't actually work at the moment, for reasons I am not sure of.). This spell enrages nearby enemy units. Usable by cultists.
This spell was added to give Cultists some use on land. It may be adjusted to have a resist chance.
Spells
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*Bloom
Bloom can now be cast by nature 2 mages. This is a change taken from the MagisterCultuum mod, to help out non fellowship elf civilizations.
*Lichdom
Two extra spells have been added for Life 3 (Everlast) and Body 3 (Ageless) that can convert the caster into a Lich unit. Lich units created by this spell will have different promotions, Everlast Liches are angels, Ageless Liches do not change the caster's racial promotion. (Liches, rather than new units, are used to keep the cap of 4 archmages and 4 archmage like units.)
This change was made to diversify the mana types that allow a civilization to double its archmages. The different promotions are partially to thematically fit with the different magic spheres, and partially so that Life Liches cannot destroy themselves if they use destroy undead.
Fellowship Of Leaves/Forests
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*Forest Preserves
These improvements can be built on Ancient forests, and add +2 commerce and +.5 happiness. They are made available at Hidden Paths, and are meant to give non-elf civilizations following the Fellowship religion something like a watered down elf economy.
*Elves and Guardian of Nature
The two Elven civilizations now get .5 happiness from forests and ancient forests. Guardian of Nature now merely gives .5 happiness from forests, jungles, and ancient forests. Overall, the changes mean that Elves playing a typical cottage FoL forest economy, and other civilizations using Guardian of Nature with preserves aren't effected, but it does provide non FOL Elves some extra benefit, reducing the synergy somewhat.
FfH Acetum Cucumbis
This mod me be found here. It is quite thin at the moment, though is being worked on to include the plans described below and in the other thread.
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Additional Mana and Mana effects
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For spells, I'd probably just look through what other Modmods use, though perhaps with a few adjustments.
For civilizations, my sense of symmetry is best served by giving each new mana to about 2 civilizations. Likely civilizations are:
Ice: Illians already have it, Doviello would likely get it as well.
Force: Grigori would get it (since it's their patron mana type). Not sure of another one, Force may be a Grigori palace only mana.
Creation: Kuriotates patron mana, so they would get it. Luchuirp are the most likely secondary civilization, though Ljosalfar also seem a possibility.
Dimensional: Sheaim definitely. Amurites seem a second possibility, though I could also see Balseraphs.
*Other: To keep my visual sense happy, I'm planning to add another mana type to keep the "mana box" even. At the moment, my most likely plan is to simple use raw mana as a final "mana" type. This would not provide any additional spells, or would provide relatively generic spells, but would enhance the civilization in some other way. It would not be provided by most palaces.
*Mana effects: More effects would be added to mana types currently in the game. My current thoughts are:
-Nature: Improves Burnt forest -->New forest -->forest --> Ancient forest conversion rates, and increases the chance for forests ot randomly grow. (this is an idea I've read somewhere else, though I don't remember where)
-Force: Improves diplomatic relations with everyone
-Creation: Improves farm resource discovery rates, or possibly population growth rates.
White Hand
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For this religion, I'd likely start by copying what's already in other mods. (Though the arrangement of ice and winter spells would be adjusted, and I'd probably remove the ice promotion from Priests of winter.) I'd also likely add some extra heroes, buildings, and/or possibly a stasis civic, though I haven't thought up the exact details yet. Heroes that are added might either be taken from the Illians or just made up.
Current detailed ideas:
*The prerequisite advances for this religion would likely be philosophy (possibly way of the wicked instead) and either elementalism or an Illians only advance given at the start. (to allowIllians to grab the religion quickly.)
*Ice based plot counter. I'll likely look up how the purity counter in some mods works, or otherwise look at the armegeddon code, to create a second such counter based around how cold the world is. Unlike the armegeddon counter this wouldn't actually change the world or spawn units, it would only effect the strength of some Illian or White Hand units, and act as a prerequisite for some units to be built. (I imagine Drifa as becoming a White hand hero, than using this as a prerequisite rather than killing a civilization.)
Creation Religion
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The idea for this religion as to be an opposition religion to the white hand. Where the white hand (from my impressions from several long Magister Cultuum posts), emphasizes keeping things the same and restricting change, and slows down all activity, the opposite religion should be one associated with many changes, new ideas, and more activity and improvement. the religion would be designed to synergize with the Kuriotates, and hopefully for the Luchuirp somewhat as well.
Current ideas:
* Shrine supplies creation mana, and either culture or science (possibly great person point, if I can figure it out and prefer the idea)
* One Archmage hero. After reading the bestiary, this would likely be a pixie, who uses skills from helping artists or inventors for more warlike purposes.
* Also after reading the bestiary (See the Nantosuelta section), an "enchanted weapon" hero. I imagine this as more a physical combat type of hero, though possibly able to use enchantment magic. If I can figure out a way to do so, this hero will have some method for equipping themselves, or at least a mechanic representing units using them as a piece of equipment, as well as fighting on its own.
* Regular priests would have two "enchanted weapon" spells, a bow one, and a melee one. Each of these weapons could fight on their own, with a strength equivalent to a tier 1-tier 2 equivalent unit, or could be added to other units as equipment to improve those unit's strengths. The melee would provide straightforward combat bonuses, the bow would provide first strikes and defensive strikes.
* The religion would likely have a set of 3-5 national wonders, supplying various health and happiness resources, and providing bonuses for other health and happiness resources. (This in particular is something I have in mind to synergize with the Kuriotates.)
I'll probably read the lore forum somewhat to get ideas, but won't worry too much about sticking exactly to it if/when I get around to creating these religions.
spells
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I might rearrange the spells so that particular spheres are more focused for particular areas, rather than the current system which is somewhat random. Exact details are still fuzzy at the moment, though I'd likely have Fire as a collateral damage/stack damage sphere, air as a more AoE oriented sphere, and death staying the same as the summoning sphere it currently is. Some spheres would be oriented towards terraforming in particular directions.
New Civilization
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The ideas for this civilization comes partially from the Austrin, and partially from the Raw mana type being added earlier. I like the idea of each of the 21 main civilizations being based on a particular type of mana, and don't want to break up that symmetry, but also like some of the mechanics I've seen or read about for some of the newer civilizations. If Raw mana is included, however, this in my head allows a new civilization somehow based on it, that could be adapted to use some potentially interesting mechanics.
I'm still relatively vague on how I'll handle this civilization, but overall it will be an adaptable civ. Through some combination of rituals, spells, and civics, it will be able to easily change between several different "modes", providing different sorts of bonus promotions to different types of units, changing its Palace and possibly other buildings to different types, and providing different types of spells and other abilities. In addition, I'd likely allow alignments to be changed without having to switch religions. Exactly what bonuses and promotions get provided is something I haven't thought out yet, though i imagine an "explorer mode" that resembles the Austrin.
The Civilization trait for this civilization would likely act as an Adaptive trait (for the leader, though, not for the civilization), and allow fast civic changes similar to the Spiritual trait. The actual traits of the leader(s) I have not thought up yet.
In backstory terms, I imagine this civilization as a collection of random groups of people that came together in the Age of Ice, vaguely like the Doviello, though not becoming as feral, and getting very pragmatic in order to survive. As the age of ice ended, this group would assemble itself together as a mix of races, faiths, and such. Unlike the Kuriotates or Grigori, however, they would not have any sort of supernatural leader associated with any particular god, and as a result, would not have any particularly strong tendencies as a civilization in any particular direction. Fitting in with the my idea of it as the "Raw Mana" civilization, it would be a civilization that could be pulled in several different directions, with no strong forces to hold it into a particular way of running itself.
Mana and Espionage (if I can figure out DLL stuff well enough.)
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Espionage will probably be mostly the same system as exists in standard Beyond the Sword, and other similar mods. Espionage missions will likely include some anti-stack abilities, in addition to the economic and sabotage missions already used.
Mana: Wildmana and RifE are doing it, so I might do it too.
Mana (the new commerce resource) will come from mana nodes, possibly buildings acting on mana nodes, and possibly specialists. Mana will likely be used to maintain permanent summons, possibly magical units themselves, mage buildings, and some buffs. It will also be required for terraforming spells, and more powerful (normal" spells. (Though channeling 1 and 2 spells would likely not require extra mana to cast, apart from terraforming and permanent summons.)Both of these changes will depend on me being able to handle the necessary DLL changes to inmplement them directly, as well as a sense of how to handle AI for the new abilities introduced (If I were to add this, the AI would probably be pretty bad, as I am new at this sort of stuff, but hopefully I could get it somewhat passable.). I'd also want to take another crack at the main interface file, and see about rearranging how specialists are organized, to allow some to be added associated with these new resources.
The civilizations would of course be adjusted to take these new mechanics into account, if they were introduced.
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