City State Diplomacy Mod (Updated)

Gazebo2 said:

I've also updated the penalty for bullying and revoking protection to set your influence to -60. Doesn't matter what your influence is at beforehand, if you revoke your protection or bully, your influence will drop to -60 immediately.

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thanerion said:

Do AI focused on hostile interactions with CS know this and act accordingly?

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thanerion said:

I was thinking about the production and science boni to factories and here's my take on it:
- provides +2 hammers / beakers in first four cities along with a +10% production bonus (similar to the Tradition code for 10% growth in those cities), perhaps without the bonus production in Capital (if possible),
- provides +1 hammer / beaker in all other cities along with a +5% production bonus.

Aside from that:
If possible, a civ that didn't reach a Silver medal (tier 2 reward) could also receive +2/+10%, or even +4/+10% production in all cities for 30 turns. If not possible, then all civs should receive this bonus (maybe a bit lower for higher tiers - that production got you something else).

Why:
- production is the single most important reason we have "once behind, stays behind" issues - production in cities that were found late, or on locations that are not particularly good, suffer because they still develop in the same way they were developing since ancient era - including the fact that we have 1 population, no buildings, and little to no production / food - after they are improved, the situation gets better in later eras, but it's still far from "Settlers->Colonists->Pioneers" we had in civ4 RoM which made the issue a lot, lot less serious - founding cities in later eras still forces you to build watermills, workshops, monuments, libraries, all that simple stuff, wasting a ton of time and cutting you on national wonders,
- while +2/+10% production is a small ammount when building late stuff, it's a HUGE ammount when given to a relatively new city that has small population and 2-10 production - this can help to catch up,
- not to screw the tall, small civs, first four cities get better factory bonuses than all the later cities.

If you can fix something, why not fix two things at the same time. Civs that are far ahead would consider building this - why give opponents an edge - on the other hand, you could still get something. This would not be needed if we had a proper settler upgrade, but still - faires are known for their influence, increasing production output for all cities that does not require buildings and only works for some time would be nice and won't cause a stat bloat.

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Atwork said:

I started playing a game in February with the following mods:

1.) Info Addict v. 22
2.) Barbarians Unlimited XP v. 2
3.) RED Modpack v. 27
4.) CSD v. 17

It's been a really fun game so far. But now I've reached some sort of game crashing problem. Not sure why, but it seems to have to do with a city state that changes allies 3 times in one turn. As soon as the little pop up appears telling of the 3rd ally change, the game crashes.

I've had no problems until this. It's really too bad. I was hoping to play this game out.

I've attached the file in case anyone is interested.

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I guess Settler upgrades would certainly be in the scope of the mod, more so than many other things ;-)

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thanerion said:

I was thinking about the production and science boni to factories and here's my take on it:
- provides +2 hammers / beakers in first four cities along with a +10% production bonus (similar to the Tradition code for 10% growth in those cities), perhaps without the bonus production in Capital (if possible),
- provides +1 hammer / beaker in all other cities along with a +5% production bonus.

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Lord Tirian said:

I'm wary of the percentage bonus. They are something that can get a little out of hand, I feel, but testing has to show. I'm also not 100% sure about giving it production bonuses, the winner already has the highest production nation-wide by virtue of getting it. I'd rather see some other yield, allowing diversification. Beakers are definitely fitting, but gold and tourism feel weird. Local happiness perhaps... I like the idea that it's restricted to the four first cities, though. I'm not the best person for game balance, though.

Regarding the settler upgrade: I like the idea (one of the best things about Call to Power), but I'd be wary of scope creep, a lot of mods have that. If you go for it, you should at least leave in an easy way of disabling it.

Finally, made a icon for the Olympic Village - I wasn't sure whether you wanted an "oilified" version of the splash image, but I tried my hand on one, though, just for fun. Use the parts you like (and if you want something changed, feel free to ask).

EDIT: Eugh, just realised CivFanatics converts sufficiently large PNG files to JPG. Since DDS requires compression, it's better to start from a clean, uncompressed PNG file...
I uploaded the icons and splashes in this imgur album in their full quality:

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SuperWaffle247 said:

I just started playing this mod with the new version you just posted. I really enjoy it so far! The World Congress seems actually exciting and dramatic. I'm excited to mess with Warmonger penalties via resolutions. I like how getting allies requires work. I also like how it feels balanced (so far). There's a bunch of extra buildings and units to make, but you have extra gold because you're not giving it to city states.

Might I provide a few suggestions?
-Is there a way to polish out the diplomatic missions? I'm seeing that the mission has produced however much Influence and zero gold! Or vice versa.
-Enforce decolonization sounds a little strange to me...I don't really have a better idea but I don't see City-State influence as colonialism. Maybe enforce isolationism? Or reuse the embargo terminology?
-I think it'd be interesting to have a wonder for getting Gold at the Global Wargames. Maybe a famous test site? Or Los Alamos laboratory?

Anyway sorry if you've heard this before. I'm very glad I finally tried the mod.

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thanerion said:

As for the windmill: I think you've meant not on a hill.

As far as the buildings go:

Pioneer - stats good, buildings are good, save for walls - I don't really think walls are a good idea - Barracks maybe, but walls? We're almost past the times of walls - some people might build them, yes, but I don't think they are suitable. Barracks, as "place where your city guard stays and where you train the military if you train them", make much more sense here instead of the next level.
I'd remember about conquistadors - I know they receive little love, but allowing them to pop at least on this level is something that should not be forgotten (we fought for that in RoM times, don't even know why - it just makes sense).

Colonist - stats good, would reduce population to 5 (6 is a bit too much - easy to starve a 6 on unimproved tiles - easy to starve 5 as well, but not as likely). Windmill is great, but might be unbalanced. The rest is excellent.

I cannot express how awesome this is, but I will try: it's truly awesome. I just can't describe with words how many things that might fix.

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Gazebo said:

So, in lieu of barracks for colonist level, what should be built? I don't want the jump from Settler->Pioneer to be way better than the jump from Pioneer->Colonist.

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Lord Tirian said:

Agreeing with thanerion regarding the walls (walls also mean colonists can become a combat unit to insta-pop a veritable defensive city) as well as the population, six does feel too high and strong - I was thinking 1->2->4, but that feels weak. Plus, I like the symmetry of going 1->3->5.


Perhaps Aqueducts? They are not cheap, yes, but without the food to support it, it does nothing. And city growth takes long enough, especially if you're already hitting railroads - that city better grow big quick to matter.

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Gazebo said:

...Currently the buildings are assigned to the settler in the dll, so it isn't 'modular' (i.e. once compiled, the list of buildings is set). I might eventually give it its own column in the xml, but that's a project for another day (and more of a convenience than anything else)...

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INSERT INTO Policy_FreeBuildingClass(
	PolicyType, 
	BuildingClass, 
	NumCities)
SELECT DISTINCT
	'POLICY_HOMESTEAD_ACT', 
	BuildingClass, 
	-1
FROM Buildings WHERE BuildingClass IN (
	'BUILDINGCLASS_MONUMENT'	,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_GRANARY'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_BARRACKS'	,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_LIGHTHOUSE'	,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_LIBRARY'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_CARAVANSARY'	,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_STABLE'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_SMITH'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_WALLS'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_COLOSSEUM'	
);

function DoPolicyFreeBuildingClasses(player, policyID)
	log:Info("DoPolicyFreeBuildingClasses")
	local playerID = player:GetID()
	local cityList = nil
	for row in GameInfo.Policy_FreeBuildingClass() do
		local testPolicyInfo = GameInfo.Policies[row.PolicyType]
		local numCities = row.NumCities
		if (policyID == testPolicyInfo.ID) or player:HasPolicy(testPolicyInfo.ID) then
			if player:IsHuman() then
				log:Debug("%45s has      %s", player:GetName(), testPolicyInfo.Type)
			end
			local buildingID = player:GetUniqueBuildingID(row.BuildingClass)
			if not MapModData.Cep_PlayerFreeBuildings.Buildings[playerID][buildingID] then
				MapModData.Cep_PlayerFreeBuildings.Buildings[playerID][buildingID] = 0
			end
			if numCities == -1 then
				for city in player:Cities() do
					if not city:IsHasBuilding(buildingID) then
						city:SetNumRealBuilding(buildingID, 1)
					end
				end
			elseif (MapModData.Cep_PlayerFreeBuildings.Buildings[playerID][buildingID] < numCities) then
				if not cityList then
					cityList = {}
					for city in player:Cities() do
						if player:IsHuman() then
							log:Debug("Policy_FreeBuildingFlavor #cityList=%s id=%s turn=%s", #cityList, City_GetID(city), city:GetGameTurnAcquired())
						end
						table.insert(cityList, {id=City_GetID(city), turn=city:GetGameTurnAcquired()})
					end
					table.sort(cityList, function (a,b)
						return a.turn < b.turn
					end)
				end
				local maxCityID = #cityList
				if numCities < maxCityID then
					maxCityID = numCities
				end
				for i = 1, maxCityID do
					local cityID = cityList[i].id
					local city = Map_GetCity(cityID)
					PlaceBuildingID(city, buildingID)
				end
			end		
		end
	end
end

ExpiredReign said:

Curious you went that way instead of using some XML/sql to modify tables and assign the buildings that way. If you like you could use our code.
In Communitas we assign new cities a population of 5 and give them a selection of 1st tier buildings once a certain policy/policies is taken. Then with a simple lua function that policy can become active and do it's magic.

Obviously the code will need to be changed as you don't want it as a policy but a new unit, nevertheless if there is something here that can be reused to suit, feel free.

New policy set by sql. The list of buildings can be changed at any time to balance, if needed.

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Code:

INSERT INTO Policy_FreeBuildingClass(
	PolicyType, 
	BuildingClass, 
	NumCities)
SELECT DISTINCT
	'POLICY_HOMESTEAD_ACT', 
	BuildingClass, 
	-1
FROM Buildings WHERE BuildingClass IN (
	'BUILDINGCLASS_MONUMENT'	,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_GRANARY'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_BARRACKS'	,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_LIGHTHOUSE'	,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_LIBRARY'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_CARAVANSARY'	,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_STABLE'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_SMITH'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_WALLS'		,
	'BUILDINGCLASS_COLOSSEUM'	
);

Actual function to do the new buildings done in lua

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Code:

function DoPolicyFreeBuildingClasses(player, policyID)
	log:Info("DoPolicyFreeBuildingClasses")
	local playerID = player:GetID()
	local cityList = nil
	for row in GameInfo.Policy_FreeBuildingClass() do
		local testPolicyInfo = GameInfo.Policies[row.PolicyType]
		local numCities = row.NumCities
		if (policyID == testPolicyInfo.ID) or player:HasPolicy(testPolicyInfo.ID) then
			if player:IsHuman() then
				log:Debug("%45s has      %s", player:GetName(), testPolicyInfo.Type)
			end
			local buildingID = player:GetUniqueBuildingID(row.BuildingClass)
			if not MapModData.Cep_PlayerFreeBuildings.Buildings[playerID][buildingID] then
				MapModData.Cep_PlayerFreeBuildings.Buildings[playerID][buildingID] = 0
			end
			if numCities == -1 then
				for city in player:Cities() do
					if not city:IsHasBuilding(buildingID) then
						city:SetNumRealBuilding(buildingID, 1)
					end
				end
			elseif (MapModData.Cep_PlayerFreeBuildings.Buildings[playerID][buildingID] < numCities) then
				if not cityList then
					cityList = {}
					for city in player:Cities() do
						if player:IsHuman() then
							log:Debug("Policy_FreeBuildingFlavor #cityList=%s id=%s turn=%s", #cityList, City_GetID(city), city:GetGameTurnAcquired())
						end
						table.insert(cityList, {id=City_GetID(city), turn=city:GetGameTurnAcquired()})
					end
					table.sort(cityList, function (a,b)
						return a.turn < b.turn
					end)
				end
				local maxCityID = #cityList
				if numCities < maxCityID then
					maxCityID = numCities
				end
				for i = 1, maxCityID do
					local cityID = cityList[i].id
					local city = Map_GetCity(cityID)
					PlaceBuildingID(city, buildingID)
				end
			end		
		end
	end
end

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ExpiredReign said:

Then I moticed the CSD DLL is 5.5 Mb compared to a little over 4Mb for WHoward's. I would've thought his would be bigger.

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