Dune University 2

Ahriman · Jul 6, 2011

One thing to consider:
If you get into a midgame stalemate position where you have difficulty making much headway through frontal assault, then I strongly recommend a raiding pillage war to harass enemies and destroy their economies.
With Fremen, it is well worth beelining for the tech that gives you the raider unit while picking up ecology techs, and ignoring the other military tech lines for quite some time. You don't even need defense tactics. Then push up for Naib's Chosen, and you have a solid military for capturing cities long before your enemies do, then backfill techs or demand some in tribute with peace deals. But you can get a very long way while ignoring a lot of the military tech tree.

Ahriman · Jul 6, 2011

Also: make sure to settle great bashar's in your Mahdi holy city, which can be an insane military production center.
Or get two good production cities; the mahdi holy city and another one with the military HQ, and settle bashars in both. Each can consistently put out a unit in ~2 turns through most of the game.

Jester Fool · Jul 6, 2011

turnset 1; part 3 (turn ~190) :

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I did play a few more turns after this. The situation :

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Ahriman · Jul 6, 2011

No cottages at all?
Ouch.....

With a terraforming economy, I find cottages end up being very nice, so I would definitely build some early. A few spice tiles just isn't enough to support a decent economy.

I would also have razed the Corrino cities that weren't in excellent spots or had lots of stuff build already (maybe keep the capital), and then pillage the improvements around them.

Overextension is a killer - as it should be.

I guess you could give/sell away Corrino cities to someone you want as a long-term ally, or someone really weak who won't be able to get much use out of them?

ChrisAdams3997 · Jul 6, 2011

hehe, I told ya to burn em, didn't I? :lol:

Actually, I'd have probably taken half of their cities, then retreated and let them retake them. Then hit 'em again after a while when the cities are worth something again. Think of it more like a raid than a land grab. The advice to pillage their improvements is also good. Sometimes, the early rush is more about the short term cash influx (and great general points) than any long term land holdings.

Jester Fool · Jul 7, 2011

I guess you could give/sell away Corrino cities to someone you want as a long-term ally

I did...sort of. Feyd was the AI that got put in control of my oversea holdings, hence the +10 bonus for granting him his independence. Not a tactic I usually employ but in this case it was a good move to at least salvage the rush on Corrino. However, if I would have teched appropriately (read research Law of Arrakis), it would have not been necessary to grant independence to the Corrino cities. Tribunals make all the difference in a successful early rush - with them you can recover your economy, without them...well that leads to what happened to me in this game. :lol:

No cottages at all?

I have some but cannot work them (except for one IIRC) due to health issues. But you are right...ouch.

Jester Fool · Jul 7, 2011

hehe, I told ya to burn em, didn't I?

I didn't listen.

The shameful results speak for themselves. :lol:

ChrisAdams3997 · Jul 7, 2011

Yep, cottages are really only useful if you can get the extra population in your cities to work them. So if you are limited by health, happiness, or water (or all three) it's no good building them yet. I usually don't get any significant cottage economy going until at least a third of the way into the game turns or so. If I build one at all. It depends a lot on the game and the strategy I'm following.

Jester Fool · Jul 7, 2011

One thing to consider:
If you get into a midgame stalemate position where you have difficulty making much headway through frontal assault, then I strongly recommend a raiding pillage war to harass enemies and destroy their economies.
With Fremen, it is well worth beelining for the tech that gives you the raider unit while picking up ecology techs, and ignoring the other military tech lines for quite some time. You don't even need defense tactics. Then push up for Naib's Chosen, and you have a solid military for capturing cities long before your enemies do, then backfill techs or demand some in tribute with peace deals. But you can get a very long way while ignoring a lot of the military tech tree.

I won't be able to use this EXCELLENT advice this game, but will definitely keep this in mind for Dune University 3 (which I have already started playing - rematch baby, rematch.

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Also: make sure to settle great bashar's in your Mahdi holy city, which can be an insane military production center.
Or get two good production cities; the mahdi holy city and another one with the military HQ, and settle bashars in both. Each can consistently put out a unit in ~2 turns through most of the game.

I plan on settling great bashars in the Madi holy city (which hopefully will be a high hammer city). I still plan to have three main military production cities (with mentats naturallly). The preceding comments apply to DU 3 of course.

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