ferretbacon
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Kongo and Rubber
New civ linked to new resource
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seancolorado
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Majapahit/Indonesia - Rice
(less and less convinced they'll make it everyday but they are the only civ i can speak about in-depth)
(less and less convinced they'll make it everyday but they are the only civ i can speak about in-depth)
Tinker
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Slaves and the some African civ?
Do you really think they'll put in random people on the map which you can then "improve" to become slaves?
Nah....that would be like the worst way to depict slavery in-game, and I don't think it would have given away any one civilization in particular. Also I think rubber is more associated with Congo rather than Kongo.
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seancolorado
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Do you really think they'll put in random people on the map which you can then "improve" to become slaves?
I feel terrible for laughing right now
PhilBowles
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Rubber is South American and was most heavily-exploited and cultivated in Brazil, an already-revealed civ.
Rice is a staple in most of Asia (and in modern times the rest of the world), there's no way it would be considered strongly associated with any single civ. Indonesia is most associated with spices (hence the "Spice Islands"), which are already in the game. I don't see them adding, say, cardamom as a resource separate from the current cinnamon-icon spices.
Though if speculation about Vlad (while extremely unlikely) is correct, the resource could be garlic...
Slaves as a resource would make sense - the fact that it's been described as a resource doesn't necessarily imply a strategic or luxury resource, it may be a new mechanic (they've also described tourism as a resource, for instance).
Veras
Prince
It could be rice, as an resource similar to wheat
ferretbacon
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Kongo, Congo, Bongo, w/e. Same difference.
Rubber is tied enough to that region. Imagine if Dennis had said rubber was in. With the SfA scenario, there would have been some discussion on the Kongo.
Also, slavery is already in the game; what do you think is happening when you capture a worker?
Rubber is tied enough to that region. Imagine if Dennis had said rubber was in. With the SfA scenario, there would have been some discussion on the Kongo.
Also, slavery is already in the game; what do you think is happening when you capture a worker?
Loaf Warden
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Rice wouldn't give away any new civs. It is, as already noted, a staple throughout Asia. It's eaten on a daily basis by several civs which are already in.
It's not, though. They are significantly different entities.
Veras
Prince
By the way, Portugal gained tremendous wealth connecting the so called Especiarias (don't know the apropriate term in English) to their trade routes. Among them was resources such as pepper, ginger, nutmeg, cinnamon, ginger, etc.
EDIT: Here's the wiki page (in portuguese, found it more appropriate): http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especiaria
EDIT: Here's the wiki page (in portuguese, found it more appropriate): http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especiaria
Bonci
King
spices 
Loaf Warden
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Spices. Already in the game, and not exclusively or even primarily associated with Portugal. Most of those come from India (already in) or Indonesia, and were sought after by all of Europe around that time.
seancolorado
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I agree, just throwing out ideas. But I would say that Indonesia is equally associated with rice AND spice islands in terms of reasons for why they thrived historically. It's just the Western world that knows the stories about the Spice Islands a lot more.
Veras
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Damn, now everything makes sense
PhilBowles
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Rubber is not obviously more associated with Kongo (or Congo) than Brazil, and since Brazil is confirmed the reveal of rubber as a resource would not necessarily hint at a different civ. Slaves are the resource most associated with Kongo.
And a lot of people seem confused about the 'Scramble for Africa'. This is the name of a defined period from around 1879-1914, long after Kongo had ceased to exist as anything but a name, and it was not in a region particularly characterised by conflict with Europeans at the time. Despite the name, the Scramble for Africa does not cover the entire period of European competition over Africa, or even most of it.
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