Inhalaattori
Emperor
Samarkand is also in the Mongols' city list.
So does this mean Mongols are removed from the game?
Samarkand is also in the Mongols' city list.
So does this mean Mongols are removed from the game?
Panama City is a replacement for Rio de Janeiro, whilst Bratislava is a replacement for Warsaw, this by the same method that all the other replacements were found.
You also seem to forget the colour matching for the unknown civ to the colours on the Venetian Flag as it is on Wikipedia, which has lottery level odds of happening by chance.
Dude, give it up already. If all these hints and indirect evidence pointing to Venice weren't enough, they were pretty much confirmed as solid with the not-so-subtle hint from the PCGamer reviewer.
To be honest, I wonder if the game devs read these forums and after the early on Venice/Riga analysis by menzies, decided to keep Venice hidden until the very end and kept dropping all those hints, like the flag, for and giggles.
According to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZpBFP1bdpc 0:29 Kathmandu has changed from cultural to religious CS.
How does that fit in with, well, anything?
I don't doubt that Venice is in - I was highlighting it as probable while Menzies was pushing Italy based on the "clues" that supposedly pointed to that civ. I'm only questioning the specific line of reasoning.
For example, let's say we'd seen the Indonesian colour scheme before Indonesia was revealed as a civ. This scheme closely resembles one of the Venetian flags, and is a more obvious fit than violet-and-cream. We now know that that would not have been evidence that Venice is in the expansion. Once it's confirmed that Venice is in, spotting the Indonesian colour scheme would still not be evidence for Venice, it would simply be coincidence. Hence the importance of determining what represents actual evidence, and how strong, and what is instead an unrelated correlation.
A few people have pushed for a Nepal civ in the past on the basis that Nepal is the putative birthplace of Buddhism. This has no relevance to Kathmandu, a later city (the oldest known evidence of occupation is 2,000 years old, around 500 years younger than Buddhism), however it's the only representation Nepal will get in the series.
What was the direct clue from a reviewer?
In the comments section, the reviewer said something like (and I'm paraphrasing here somewhat) "we'll give you the most serene details about the next civ later". The reviewer explicitly used the words most serene in the context of a new civ. There's really only one civ that can get that most serene.
Well, besides San Marino.
According to Menzies' list, Kyzyl is Middle Cyan Cultured where Florence is Cyan Cultured, so it's not a replacement. However, Menzies may change his mind and decide that It is regular Cyan after all. He's been known to mistake similar looking colors.
One question Riga is considered the replacement for Venice as it is a Maritime - Cyan, some have suggested that this is not convincing as they may have just changed the nature of the Venice City State, with that in mind, was there already a mercantile city state with the cyan color palate?
Actually come to think of it... the Chinese version of Civ 5 apparently doesn't have Lhasa as a city state. Anyone know what is in place of Lhasa, perhaps the Chinese video has an additional clue then too if one of the colors were replaced by either Samarkand/Tannu Tuva's cap?
How do you know that they have excluded Lhasa in the Chinese version?
No there wasn't, but that would break the colour-type law. We've seen city states change type before (they did it a bit in Gods & Kings to populate the mercantile and religious city states), but they never gave another city state the old colour-type combinations. There evidence is still entirely for Venice being replaced.
Just to add again that we've seen in the Taiwanese video that Kathmandu has changed type in BNW to religious, so odd things can happen...