Sealot
Warlord
This is still a game, not history simulator. You have to admit it makes sense as a game mechanic.Because then it would be like the real UN
This is still a game, not history simulator. You have to admit it makes sense as a game mechanic.Because then it would be like the real UN
i've thought about having a diplomatic penalty before too, but it'd be useless in human multiplayer.
I suspect that Firaxis tried a diplomatic penalty and quickly discovered that some players will defy every last vote. Diplomatic penalties are not enough.
Hence the happiness penalty. It was the only way to make players thoughtfully weigh whether it's worth it to defy or not. Now that the happiness penalties are high, you'll think twice about defying. You'll only do it when absolutely necessary.
Realistic that your people care about the UN? Probably not. But like I said, the most realistic UN would probably be a bunch of resolutions that don't actually do anything. If you went with that, you might as well not implement a UN at all.
there shouldnt be a unhappiness penalty in your own lands, for example american are worldwide hated and they keep defying the UN, but they dont care nor are even really aware of being the world's villains. However there should be other penalties, like reduced commerce and barbarian spies (terrorism).
Quite a few of us Americans are quite angry at our government for making us into the world's villains...of course, the Civ mechanic is, as always, an odd reflection of reality, since most of us don't quit our jobs and refuse to work because of our anger.
I hate the UN so much I wish there was an opition to turn it off. It more then anything else in the game annoys me cause it takes away your choice on how to run your own empire. And the addition of the defy with unhappiness penalty really isn't much of a choice cause they often keep demanding things that hurt your empire so it's like damned if you do damned if you don't.
Pomp I frequent http://alternet.org/ on an almost daily basis and I know whats the feeling in the liberal american community, however its a small, almost negligible part of the american people and can in no way nor shape represent the american people.
Because then it would be like the real UN