Leaderscreen Elimination Thread

Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 22
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 22
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 23
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 17
Harald Bluetooth -21
William- 21
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 20
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 20
Oda Nobunaga- 9
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 18
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 21
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 14
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 20
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 22

Out of the original civs, I like Harun al-Rashid's the best. While I think the concept art was better, it's still not as bad as say Caesar's. It's a balance of good architecture and good environment.

Oda's, on the other hand, I wish could have been in a castle or surrounded by Sakura trees at spring. The way it is now is incredibly bland.

Edit: Fixed numbers
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 22
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 22
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 20
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 17
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 21
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 20
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 20
Oda Nobunaga- 9
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 18
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 21
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 14
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 20
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 22

As to why I chose Dido, it's probably a combination of my dislike for her design and in game personality unconsciously biasing me (I say unconsciously as I cannot be certain this is true) to choose her over others I'm not a big fan of. I just end up not feeling as happy after talking with Dido. Kills it for me, I suppose. Don't know why. Not to mention, in general I really dislike the gloomy atmosphere that I had thought would make me choose another leader screen instead. Still, I wouldn't feel right knocking at any other at the moment.

On a more positive note, how cool is Harald riding in on his longboat? Like, woah, dude. (I can just imagine him rushing at Kamehameha with his Viking rage :aargh: , setting up a fight for the ages- which I believe, though many will erroneously disagree ( :p ), would end in a tragic fall of the mighty Kamehameha in the face of the unstoppable Viking might that Harald holds within.)

:viking:
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 22
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 20
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 17
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 21
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 17
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 20
Oda Nobunaga- 9
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 18
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 21
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 14
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 20
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 22

Bismarck, once again, nothing special. Not much to enjoy when seeing his leader screen, although his angry face is pretty legit.

So many good ones to vote up, going for Montezuma this time. The cheering crowds, the hilarious expressions, the memorable quotes (XIMICACAN), his bare, muscular chest glistening in the firelight, he's everyones favorite ritual mass murderer.
Spoiler :

 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 22
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 20
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 17
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 17
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 20
Oda Nobunaga- 9
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 18
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 21
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 14
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 12
Isabella- 20
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 22

Upvoting William because his screen really gives you the impression that you're in a stately Amsterdam residence during the time of his life. It all fits very well together, the decoration, his attire and his deep voice. And the fancy pants.
Downvoting Askia because it's not really the kind of screen that gives a good leader impression. If that city wasn't burning, then maybe. But now...no.
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 20
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 17
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 20
Oda Nobunaga- 9
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 18
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 21
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 14
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 12
Isabella- 20
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 22

Harun's leaderscreen is perfect. You immediatelly know that you are talking to the wise leader of great nation! Everything points at Harun's greatness: books near the chair point at his intelligence and show that Harun knows what he's talking about, his relaxed behavior shows that he prefers not to take mindless decisions and the sword in his hand clearly shows that Harun's words are backed by Nuclear Weapons! :D

Wu's leaderscreen... Again, she's another leader that doesn't have the charisma to make this leaderscreen good all by herself. She just doesn't look like an empress of the greatest power in history. She looks like a simple chinese woman and the background isn't really stunning.
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 20
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 17
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 20
Oda Nobunaga- 9
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 18
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 18 (-3) Nice paradise, but I think many have said it feels kind of stereotypical (especially with the music).
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 14
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 12
Isabella- 21 - (+1) My favourite leaderscreen, the music is just perfect, the whole design.. it's just.. woah.
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 22
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 20+1=21 Harun's presentation is excellent. Suleiman and Caesar are underrated, but... Dido steals the vote because she's so cute.
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 17
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 20
Oda Nobunaga- 9
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 18-3=15 Why a tent, not one of their Kasbahs?
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 18
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 14
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 12
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 22
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 17-3=14, Bismarck's office is pretty bland and uninteresting, especially compared with Pedro's
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 20
Oda Nobunaga- 9
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 18
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 14
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 12+1=13, I don't know why people are deducting points from Askia's background because of the burning city, those are not fires from warfare, but beacons or pyres, I still love the city in the background. :D
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 22
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 20
Oda Nobunaga- 6 - listen to this, and it will change your perception of Nobunaga's leaderscreen forever.
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 18
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 14
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 13
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 23 - A "daytime" version of Monty's leaderscreen. In a good way. While Monty gets points for the crowd, Shaka stands out with the awesome background music.
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 21
Oda Nobunaga- 6
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 18
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 13
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 23

Catherine looks really creepy to me, it's either her humongous forehead or close set eyes uncanny valley and all that.

I like the atmosphere of Gajah Mada's leader screen especially the music.
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -22
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 21
Oda Nobunaga- 3
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 13
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 22
Shaka- 23
 
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Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23 I love it when he's in my games. The longship is really cool and the helmet is a nice touch. I like how the it's off when he's friendly then he puts it on when he's mad.
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 21
Oda Nobunaga- 3
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 13
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 19 The city in the background is beautiful but Enrico ruins it. I know he's old and blind but the CiV depiction makes him look like an extra on The Walking Dead. I keep expecting him to snarl and say "Brains!" Just do an image search on him, none of his portraits or sculptures have the extreme sunken cheeks, flat grey beard and dead eyes. Not sure exactly why he's depicted like that in the game. In fact a lot of the images I found make him look like "the Most Interesting Man in the World" with a snow white beard.
Shaka- 23
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 23
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 21
Oda Nobunaga- 0 ... done
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 17
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 14
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 19
Shaka- 23

Askia - I am utterly shocked that this has been falling so soon. It has several elements that work really well, in my opinion: the red and smoky general palette has an element of menace and terrible beauty; Askia's costume and large weapon are bold and strong, but not overtly violent; The gloring foreground breaking suddenly into darkness creates a chasm-like effect that is unsettling. I have no idea how this could be anywhere but in the Top 5! (I didn't come here to vote for this, because I expected it to be higher!!!)

Oda - I like Japan as an in-game civ; I love Japan as an actual place to visit/live. How the developers managed to pick such a dull background for such a beautiful country I'll never know. I lived in one small part of Japan (Miyazaki) and I took dozens of pictures with my lame camera that still look better than the background he got. No Shinto arches? Gardens? Palaces???
 
Can I vote based on the leader's voice? I want to downvote Sejong. Being Korean myself, the voice for him and the way he pronounces things irks me every time... :/
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 21
Montezuma- 24
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 20
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 14
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 19
Shaka- 23

I absolutely LOVE Monty's leaderscreen. I love the exaggerated hand gestures, I love the tone of voice (XIMICACA!), I love the funny unique quips he makes ("If you'd like, I'll let you have a closer look at my altar."), and I LOVE the crowd. We're trading for sugar again, hoooooraaaayyyy!

Downvote to Persia. Where are we, Darius? Not meeting me in your palace, but on the back steps? Jerk.
 
Can I vote based on the leader's voice? I want to downvote Sejong. Being Korean myself, the voice for him and the way he pronounces things irks me every time... :/
I have the same feelings about Wu Zetian....

I think the consensus here is "visuals first, voice and music later". But you can vote against Sejong if his voice is so terrible for you that it ruins the entire leaderscreen. I will eventually do this to Wu for sure.
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22- Like the mountain background.
Montezuma- 24
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 17- I dislike him because he is the only leaderscreen that lags my computer.
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 14
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 19
Shaka- 23
 
Washington- 9
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 24
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 8
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 17 - 3 = 14 I will down vote Pacal too. I hate his voice. There is nothing dignified about him.
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 14
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19 + 1 = 20 Great voice, triumphant music, roaring fireplace in the background. The best in the game.
Enrico Dandolo- 19
Shaka- 23
 
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