Best american civ

Thinking over which one of these civs is the best, I realized that they are all really good. In most of the other civ games, the native americans are usually sub-standard civs, but in Civ V they all are pretty good. Thumbs up to Firaxis for making all four of these civs very fun civs to play

How come Aztecs are so low? They should be first!

We all know that it is best to have tall empires! Aztecs can gain tradition pretty quickly with their sacrificial captives! Isnt it better to have big cities which produce wonders fast. In the end its all about population not number of cities. If u have 4 well situated cities u will triumph no matter what!

Also rapid population growth is assured with their floating gardens. If u build temple of artemis and take fertility rites u will have biggest cities in the world.

Also they almost always start in jungles which is great for u later when u build universities.
You may also consider taking sacred path as a pantheon instead of fertility rites! Only bad thing about the jungles is that they give u no production but later if manage to snatch +1% (max 15%) production for each follower ur big cities will build wonders in no time. Also tilthe would would grant u lots of gold!

And Jaguars are for my one of the best units! U build lots of them in the beginning and those who survive the longest will have plenty of promotions later in the game. Also perfect for sweeping out barbarians with their healing ability and combat bonus in jungles and forest. If u adopt honor u will get lots of culture from barbs and u will probably solve lots of city state quests.

Perfect for turtling for almost always u will be surrounded by jungles where ur enemy will be harmless. Later on in the game when u adopt honor to the end and upgrade ur promoted jags war will be just as fun as profitable. Then puppet as much as your happiness lets you.

So in sum:- Few big cities= less culture for social policies, big production
- Lots of jungles= +2 science (more with rationalism), +1 gold from trading posts (more with comercialism), +2 food and plus 1 culture with sacred path, combat bonus for jags
- food growth +15% with floating gardens, +10% with temple of artemis, +10 with fertility rites and +15% with tradition and +15 if u take swords into plowshares as belief but thats not so good while u will probably be warmongering!

I REST MY CASE!

Although I disagree with zile that tall civs are ALWAYS best I do agree that Monty is a bit underrated in this poll.

The Aztec ability to brawl early for culture may not be as reliable or constant as say Ancien Regime but unlike the French ability it actually scales as you play allowing it to be useful even later on.

Also if used effectively you can always keep the culture VC (usually good for tall civs) in your back pocket in case domination/puppeting doesn't go well.

Jimjemael said:

Although I disagree with zile that tall civs are ALWAYS best I do agree that Monty is a bit underrated in this poll.

The Aztec ability to brawl early for culture may not be as reliable or constant as say Ancien Regime but unlike the French ability it actually scales as you play allowing it to be useful even later on.

Also if used effectively you can always keep the culture VC (usually good for tall civs) in your back pocket in case domination/puppeting doesn't go well.

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Thank you for agreeing with me finally someone seeing true potential of the aztecs.

Sacrifical captives can be quite constant. Just leave couple of encampents near ur boarders and some jags. U may even send one worker to get captured if u have workers with no job. As soon as u need him back u just take him back but i dunno if encampents produce more or stronger units if they have captured a worker.

Ancien Regime is for me one of the uselless UA ive ever seen. +1 culture per city is not so much and that means wide empire and wide empire means lots of unhappines. man if u take sacred path with monty u will get +1 culture from each jungle tile. If u kill one barb brute u get 16 culture. But anyway this thread is about native americans not europeans lol.

I believe aztecs can become best in every perspective even on harder difficulties. If u build just two cities surrounded by jungles near mountains later on with universities and observatories u will get massive amounts of science. Not to mention other science percent multiplier buildings like national college, public school etc.

I voted for Inca for all the reasons previously stated. Aztecs come at a close second though since I love sharing my culture with my neighbors.

ArchyDarky said:

I voted for Inca for all the reasons previously stated. Aztecs come at a close second though since I love sharing my culture with my neighbors.

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Aztecs love to share their culture also. They share it by sacrificing their neighbors at chichen itza heheheheheeheheheh

Does anyone know does barbarian encampent upon capturing worker produce more barbs?

Chichen Itza is Maya

Maya is the most consistent, as you will ALWAYS research Theology, and you will ALWAYS be able to build pyramids. The other three count on their terrain to be effective, but for the most part, you'll always be placed in a good spot to take advantage of it.


I voted Iroquois for the potential. I have played games where I completely dominate because of their production. It basically goes like this: Goddess of The Hunt pantheon because of the amount of Deer and Fur found in forest, and go tradition. This means you can grow from camps, have a high population for your 4 or 5 cities, and this means you can use the longhouse to work as many forest tiles as you can. Each forest will have three hammers, and four once scientific theory is researched. Going on quick speed, say hello to building wonders in 5 turns during a Golden Age. Coupled with the fact that your land will be forest heavy, if someone tries to get smart and attack you, your cities will be a lot easier to defend, and you can move through to the edge of the forest before they even step foot in your lands. Building 2 solid units every 3 turns, and you'll have a large army in no time.

zile said:

Aztecs love to share their culture also. They share it by sacrificing their neighbors at chichen itza heheheheheeheheheh

Does anyone know does barbarian encampent upon capturing worker produce more barbs?

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I prefer sacrificing them within the Great Wall of Tenochtitlan!