Memphus says:
yo!
Memphus says:
we have traded maps
plako says:
hi
plako says:
ok
Memphus says:
can you send a screenie of iapetus with the barb?
plako says:
Haven't cheked out yet
plako says:
Barb is 3 tiles west frim it
Memphus says:
will you be able to recapture before the borders expand (i.e. lose trade routes)
plako says:
Not totally sure
Memphus says:
ok cool
Memphus says:
btw ETA 6 turns until education. how long for your GS for philo?
plako says:
We could switch to slavery to whip Axe
plako says:
7 turns
Memphus says:
can it go any faster?
plako says:
I'll check if we can run 6th specialist for a turn or 2
plako says:
of course if we don't mind losing population
Memphus says:
ok cool that would be awsome!
Memphus says:
haha well my guess is KAz get it in 4
Memphus says:
by research
plako says:
ok
plako says:
Is it still worth going for?
Memphus says:
Krill says if you take a screen shot of the city (hovered over the GP points) he will maximize the MM
Memphus says:
yeah for sure it is we get Lib!
Memphus says:
and nationalism and pull ahead in the tech race
Memphus says:
we can beat them since cav got engineering
Memphus says:
also need to know total current amount of food in the city.
plako says:
a moment
Memphus says:
yeah for sure
plako says:
It says 6 turns. We have 18 points currently and generating 15 per/turn
Memphus says:
we have paper now can you do a screenshot?
Memphus says:
how much food in the bucket?
plako says:
I'll make a shot for you
Memphus says:
Memphus says:
btw initial numbers with the info say that 1 turn with 1 extra specialist gets it 1 turn sooner
plako says:
That is possible wihtout dropping 1 pop
Memphus says:
cool which city btw?
plako says:
Capital
plako says:
We don't have proper GP farm
Memphus says:
nice that is the best one! how much food?
Memphus says:
btw what tech do you have it on (drama i hope)
plako says:
Drama
Memphus says:
sweet!!!
Memphus says:
ok so right now you are running at -2 per turn?
plako says:
23 turns
plako says:
yes
Memphus says:
how much food currently?
plako says:
17 food
Memphus says:
one moment
Memphus says:
This turn: both towns, and crabs, everything else scientists
Memphus says:
next turn go back to working the sheep, both towns, crabs, and 5 scientists
plako says:
ok
Memphus says:
so fyi for numbers sake
Memphus says:
you need the GS T126 (end of turn)
Memphus says:
bulb it T127
Memphus says:
to gift for us after Ms play T128
Memphus says:
we then get Lib By T131
Memphus says:
so in 10 turns from now.
plako says:
Ok. here is barb situation and the warrior I'm going to upgrade. Worker should get road finished in time
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8619/thciv4screenshot0262.jpg
Memphus says:
do you have any chops on the forest you are on?
Memphus says:
is there any culture in iapetus right now?
plako says:
no
Memphus says:
ok build culture this turn not an axe
Memphus says:
work both mines
Memphus says:
your border will pop
plako says:
ok
Memphus says:
next turn chop out axe
Memphus says:
if you have forest prechopped
Memphus says:
but if you build culture it will allow you 1 for more LoS
Memphus says:
and 2 that you get the full range back once you recapture
plako says:
we've monument there so border will pop right away
Memphus says:
this turn?
plako says:
after end turn
Memphus says:
BTW now that we have music culture is cheaper than monument
Memphus says:
and if that worker was chopping not roading then forest would go to the axe
plako says:
Good to know what I should've done
Memphus says:
sorry
plako says:
Maybe I should try to sacrifice Immortal
plako says:
and win one more turn
Memphus says:
where do you have an immortal?
plako says:
Actually too far. It will get to bronze in 2 turns
plako says:
I guess Spear selects city over it
Memphus says:
yes it does
Memphus says:
ok but you have a little bit of a chance
Memphus says:
the immortal in rhea can get to iapetus in time
Memphus says:
NW N NE E this turn
Memphus says:
NE NE NE N next turn
Memphus says:
btw new plan for the Great person
Memphus says:
you are actually short 7 GP points to get it in 5 turns.
Memphus says:
we though only 3 initially.
Memphus says:
*thought
plako says:
I've also shot of our city
Memphus says:
please send that
plako says:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2677/thciv4screenshot0261.jpg
plako says:
This was before I set 6th Scientist
Memphus says:
ok wait you need only 5 this turn
Memphus says:
and you won;t shrink your city
Memphus says:
it will get to exaclty 0 food
Memphus says:
so 5 this turn, and for the next 4 turns
Memphus says:
T126 (the turn you need the GS by so we can both get lib)
Memphus says:
you need to run 8 of them
Memphus says:
but you don't starve!
Memphus says:
alternatively you coudl run 8 this turn
Memphus says:
and then go back to 5.
Memphus says:
btw we have barb swordsmen at our doors there is alot of them
plako says:
hmm. we've 17F, if we run 8 Scientist we lose 11F only 6 left
plako says:
that would allow 3 turns with -2F
plako says:
not 4 that I suspect we need
plako says:
yeah we've seen couple of swords also
Memphus says:
yeah shoot you are right.
Memphus says:
Memphus says:
you do starve
plako says:
one in the east from Iapetus and now one coming from east of Titan
Memphus says:
2 food too short
Memphus says:
we are starving 3 cities right now to get edu in 6.
Memphus says:
only way to beat kaz and cav because they might double bulb education
plako says:
Of course we could also starve. how does starving work
plako says:
we drop to 8
Memphus says:
you get all the GPP for that turn
Memphus says:
next turn you only have 8 people to work with
Memphus says:
but if you get the GS
Memphus says:
then you dont need to run scientists anymore
plako says:
how much food is in the bin after -2 round
plako says:
empty or half filled because of granary
Memphus says:
ummm half full i think cause of granary? or might be empty. But with no specialsit you will grow back really quick!
Memphus says:
ok this jsut in our spreadsheets gave us new numbers
Memphus says:
keep your current set up (5 specialists)
Memphus says:
in 4 turns on T126 for you we can both make the call to run 8 (and starve) or not
Memphus says:
this will be determined by how close kaz, cav and ms are to liberalism
plako says:
ok. Sounds good
Memphus says:
we will try to work on a plan to get to withing 1 bulb of education and the overflow into lib and get it in 3 turns.
Memphus says:
same overall speed. if we can save your citizen
plako says:
That would be nice
Memphus says:
ok well 4 turns is like 2 weeks away so we will play it by ear
Memphus says:
if you have any MM questions take screenshots and email them we will have a look if you want
plako says:
btw. our Immortal in Rhea is wounded so Ithink I let spear take it and hopefully recapture it in 2 turns
Memphus says:
but promise no more monuments now.
Memphus says:
run artists
plako says:
sure
Memphus says:
and building culture is always an ace in the hole!
Memphus says:
we have 4 cities running research to get edu in 6.
plako says:
you mean building research?
Memphus says:
well i meant culture
Memphus says:
if you did that in iapetus when it was founded instead of monument borders would eb popped
plako says:
true
plako says:
Learning always something new
plako says:
So used to build monuments
Memphus says:
for sure there is lots of tricks!
plako says:
at first in every palce
Memphus says:
yeah they are a cool building and have their place!
Memphus says:
also FYI
Memphus says:
building archer and upgrading to LB is cheaper than warriro to axe i think
Memphus says:
also you might as well build reasearch (or wealth) in Iapetus
plako says:
I think longbow is more expensive
Memphus says:
because all hammers on the axemen get lost
plako says:
25 hammers
plako says:
instead of 20
Memphus says:
oh cool
plako says:
Lost?
Memphus says:
yeah
Memphus says:
if the barb takes the city
Memphus says:
then the build is cancelled
Memphus says:
when you take the city back you dont get hammers back
plako says:
yeah. I swtiched that to culture
plako says:
so we get 10 culture next turn
Memphus says:
but if borders pop anyways culture doesn't help much...
Memphus says:
so you could alternatively get 10 more gold
Memphus says:
or 10 more beakers
plako says:
Monument is destroyed and we've ~4 culture now
Memphus says:
ahhh gotcha
Memphus says:
yeah build cutlure
plako says:
But next turn we could do that
Memphus says:
good idea for next turn
Memphus says:
Immortals get def bonus?
plako says:
yes
Memphus says:
do you have an axe down at rhea right?
Memphus says:
to kill that otehr spear?
plako says:
Yes we've
Memphus says:
well what are the promos o nthe immortal in rhea?
Memphus says:
because with +20 culture
Memphus says:
and +25% hills
Memphus says:
he might have odds on the spear
plako says:
health is only 2.6/4
Memphus says:
ouch. no he wont
plako says:
Combat II
Memphus says:
no odds injured
Memphus says:
can the other one move to the copper this turn?
plako says:
no 3 tiles away
plako says:
and it is Combat III
plako says:
would be sad to lose it this way
Memphus says:
what about the flat land behind the spear?
plako says:
It is south no way to get in spears range
Memphus says:
shoot
plako says:
But we've used to this
plako says:
2nd time
plako says:
Memphus says:
ok well end of work day for me we will chat soon k?
Memphus says:
when you recapture you get your borders back
plako says:
I'll go to bed. Nice talking to you
Memphus says:
and borders on the mountains will give great LOS
plako says:
bye