HorseshoeHermit
20% accurate as usual, Morty
I obtained a more comprehensive questionnaire from the shut-down website, and used it to work out a concept. I even have some notion of the Social Engineering base effects for the faction.
Answers to the q's here:
As I said I've got reams of text now, further answers on these same points.
Answers to the q's here:
1. Why should somebody in desperate circumstances join that faction? What's the "pitch"?
The faction is not for the desperate. Desperation is not an existential state, but a psychological one. And commitments are not made in desperation.
The pitch is, "we know what Humanity is supposed to try to do, Humankind already had the schema to it but the knowledgeable didn't speak it and the fortunate did not propagate it. We will give it voice, and we will give it legs if not carry it on our own shoulders, and if you'll try to do that too you will be given every support , fair means, and respect at every echelon of the new civilization. And your progeny will have every opportunity we have invented since you joined, too."
2. What does your faction believe is the reason that human civilization failed on Earth?
Humankind left itself behind. It abandoned and recoiled from itself. This had thousands of proximal causes - cowardice, pride, factionalism. They had a single easily remedied cause: Education, or lack thereof. Specifically, history, and instruction in the means to express social opinions and interpret them. Humankind built its fortress of culture with millennia of work, working through eras and ages of revolution and injustice, and somewhere, people just forgot it was there, or forgot what it represented - forgot the world of its absence. Widespread, was confusion of the difference between phenomenological society, and the teleology of it. Factionalism. Factionalism, in places where those who thought themselves its opponents, did not expect it. Layers and layers of those who spoke against failings and vice, but rationalized avoidance of outgroups apart outgroups apart outgroups. They beckoned war with the differing opinion, they beckoned war rather than the work of patience. To actually give time to something is to recognize importance and feel conscious of it, when consciousness was so obviously repressed by society of course patience would be a virtue for no one.
All the same horrid parts of Humanity reasserted themselves from the unexamined dark, never having been banished, because they were never supposed to be taken as such, but instead managed, mastered, integrated, through the genius of millennia, the artifice of generations. Man's innovations and transformations, his self-transcendence, is all necessary, but the Man is not changed, not out of Nature; someone must take responsibility for changing him anew each and every time. For bearing him twice, after the womb of the mother, into the consensual present of society.
At every single rung of the failed Earth civilization, in every socioeconomic walk and every career, Man's "illusions" worked too well as such, and the complacency set in. Only, the world rapidly grew to such entanglement, a physical networking of volition and transformation, where those who were mistaken fundamentally about the old truths again, could have little time, or span, to be wrong any more.
3. What does your faction believe are the fundamental truths of the universe?
The universe is fundamentally unknowable, and complex beyond comprehension. It evolves continually in a finally unknowable way. Human beings are made up of that universe. They too are a transformation.
The consequence of the universe being complex beyond comprehension is that Humanity is at a loss. The consequence of Humans being a process of that universe admits our works into illimitable potential. The consequence of Human Being being transformation and change, makes the Human condition fundamentally exciting and exploratory. It is an existence of aspiration. It is an existence defined by transcendence.
4. What does your faction believe is necessary for humanity to succeed on Chiron?
The complete guidebook to every decision anyone ever tried, and the tools for everyone to add notes. Communication.
5. How might an ungenerous critic or skeptic describe your faction?
Communists. Soviet communists.
Hypocrites and arrogant scholars.
The glorious paternal state - 1984, version alpha
Propagandists, bullhorsehockyters; a government of rhetoric
Crypto-theocrats
Cult of Personality
6. What were your inspirations?
Present-day scholars of antiquity and prehistory. Scholars of political science from modernity.
The faction is not for the desperate. Desperation is not an existential state, but a psychological one. And commitments are not made in desperation.
The pitch is, "we know what Humanity is supposed to try to do, Humankind already had the schema to it but the knowledgeable didn't speak it and the fortunate did not propagate it. We will give it voice, and we will give it legs if not carry it on our own shoulders, and if you'll try to do that too you will be given every support , fair means, and respect at every echelon of the new civilization. And your progeny will have every opportunity we have invented since you joined, too."
2. What does your faction believe is the reason that human civilization failed on Earth?
Humankind left itself behind. It abandoned and recoiled from itself. This had thousands of proximal causes - cowardice, pride, factionalism. They had a single easily remedied cause: Education, or lack thereof. Specifically, history, and instruction in the means to express social opinions and interpret them. Humankind built its fortress of culture with millennia of work, working through eras and ages of revolution and injustice, and somewhere, people just forgot it was there, or forgot what it represented - forgot the world of its absence. Widespread, was confusion of the difference between phenomenological society, and the teleology of it. Factionalism. Factionalism, in places where those who thought themselves its opponents, did not expect it. Layers and layers of those who spoke against failings and vice, but rationalized avoidance of outgroups apart outgroups apart outgroups. They beckoned war with the differing opinion, they beckoned war rather than the work of patience. To actually give time to something is to recognize importance and feel conscious of it, when consciousness was so obviously repressed by society of course patience would be a virtue for no one.
All the same horrid parts of Humanity reasserted themselves from the unexamined dark, never having been banished, because they were never supposed to be taken as such, but instead managed, mastered, integrated, through the genius of millennia, the artifice of generations. Man's innovations and transformations, his self-transcendence, is all necessary, but the Man is not changed, not out of Nature; someone must take responsibility for changing him anew each and every time. For bearing him twice, after the womb of the mother, into the consensual present of society.
At every single rung of the failed Earth civilization, in every socioeconomic walk and every career, Man's "illusions" worked too well as such, and the complacency set in. Only, the world rapidly grew to such entanglement, a physical networking of volition and transformation, where those who were mistaken fundamentally about the old truths again, could have little time, or span, to be wrong any more.
3. What does your faction believe are the fundamental truths of the universe?
The consequence of the universe being complex beyond comprehension is that Humanity is at a loss. The consequence of Humans being a process of that universe admits our works into illimitable potential. The consequence of Human Being being transformation and change, makes the Human condition fundamentally exciting and exploratory. It is an existence of aspiration. It is an existence defined by transcendence.
4. What does your faction believe is necessary for humanity to succeed on Chiron?
The complete guidebook to every decision anyone ever tried, and the tools for everyone to add notes. Communication.
5. How might an ungenerous critic or skeptic describe your faction?
Communists. Soviet communists.
Hypocrites and arrogant scholars.
The glorious paternal state - 1984, version alpha
Propagandists, bullhorsehockyters; a government of rhetoric
Crypto-theocrats
Cult of Personality
6. What were your inspirations?
Present-day scholars of antiquity and prehistory. Scholars of political science from modernity.
As I said I've got reams of text now, further answers on these same points.