Great Cinematographers and Film tech ?

Liufeng · Jul 28, 2013

Just an idea, but don't you think we should have Great Worls of Cinema from the Industrial era, unlocked with a "Film" tech ? I made a research about which GP it could have, trying to be as broad as I could, and not including any cinematographer alive (so no S. Spielberg, T. Burton or else). What do you think :

Spoiler :

So ... any suggestions to add or take out ?

VainoValkea · Jul 28, 2013

If this can be modded in, I would like this - although I think having three different artists is already plenty, films would deserve to be in.

Add the Hollywood wonder, in a similar vein to Broadway.

Also, what would be the secondary ability of a cinematographer?

Liufeng · Jul 28, 2013

VainoValkea said:
If this can be modded in, I would like this - although I think having three different artists is already plenty, films would deserve to be in.

Add the Hollywood wonder, in a similar vein to Broadway.

Also, what would be the secondary ability of a cinematographer?

Well, it could be a mix between the Great writer and the Great musician, and give you culture (to lesser extent than the Great writer) and spread tourism throughout all civs (to a less extend than the Great Musician). Or the ability to lower a civs total culture.

KillingMeSoftly · Jul 28, 2013

The active ability could reduce or increase Ideology pressure depending if its used within your borders or a different Civ's borders.

(Propaganda)

VainoValkea · Jul 28, 2013

So... pretty much what a Great Musician does already? Same, but different?

Inhalaattori · Jul 28, 2013

Copyright issues? That is also reason why we dont have modern music or art.

KillingMeSoftly · Jul 28, 2013

VainoValkea said:
So... pretty much what a Great Musician does already? Same, but different?

It's probably not a good ability. Though you could use it in your own borders when not going for a Cultural victory, to ensure you're not getting pressured too hard by other Ideologies. It would have a much stronger pressure effect than a Concert Tour, since the later gives Tourism for the victory.

VainoValkea · Jul 28, 2013

Copyright should be a non-issue though, for non-commercial mods.

MantaRevan · Jul 28, 2013

We don't really need more great artist variations. GWAM is enough already IMO, with all the guilds and separate specialists things already seem really clunky.

Horizons · Jul 28, 2013

On a side note, are there any modern works of music in the game? I keep popping obscure 19th century operas and adding them to my broadways and radio stations lol. Even although the icon for artists/musicians/writers updates for the era (i.e. when you generate one the pop-up message has a kind of era-specific graphic)

VainoValkea · Jul 28, 2013

Horizons said:
On a side note, are there any modern works of music in the game? I keep popping obscure 19th century operas and adding them to my broadways and radio stations lol. Even although the icon for artists/musicians/writers updates for the era (i.e. when you generate one the pop-up message has a kind of era-specific graphic)

Sure, John Adams, Antonín Dvořák, George Gershwin and of course Michael Jackson are from the modern period. Probably many more too.

ps. those "obscure 19th century pieces" are technically modern too.

Horizons · Jul 28, 2013

I'm talking the Rolling Stones, Velvet Underground, Beatles - THAT period of modern music lol. Pieces of music that would actually be played by a radio tower in the late 20th or 21st century?

The generic image for a piece of great music is an old European orchestra, regardless of culture or epoch

VainoValkea · Jul 28, 2013

Ben, I want to say one word to you, just one word: copyright.

Horizons · Jul 28, 2013

Pythakoreas · Jul 28, 2013

I think they had an unused art for the pre-BNW modern Great Artist, which looks like a cameraman actively filming something. When I played BNW I was excited to actually see all these modern Great People art in use, but I didn't see that film producer anywhere

I think Great Cinematographers can do like, cut off culture output from a civ you don't like, so you can bully them and assimilate their culture with ease with your tourism.

Ritzy Cat · Jul 28, 2013

I think this is an interesting idea, than you can do anything with this. Why not Great Astrophysicists, Choreographers, or Judges? I think Musicians, Writers, & Artists are enough. But it would make a decent addition if that isn't enough for you.

quantum42 · Jul 28, 2013

How about prehistoric art, like cave paintings? Have anthropologists extract them from "prehistoric" sites.

Pythakoreas · Jul 28, 2013

Pythakoreas said:
I think Great Cinematographers can do like, cut off culture output from a civ you don't like, so you can bully them and assimilate their culture with ease with your tourism.

Their second option could be "Blockbuster Monopoly", which steals one civ's culture output for you for 10 turns. (If Portugal is generating 200 culture/turn then they get nothing for 10 turns and I get 2000) Also you can get 20% from each civ on the planet without dropping any culture output from them. Carries negative diplomatic modifier. Lethal against cultural giants you're rivalling for a cultural victory.

superliminal · Jul 28, 2013

Ritzy Cat said:
I think this is an interesting idea, than you can do anything with this. Why not Great Astrophysicists, Choreographers, or Judges? I think Musicians, Writers, & Artists are enough. But it would make a decent addition if that isn't enough for you.

Indeed, why not Great Game Developers? That should be one of the victory conditions. Building Civ 5 within Civ 5 itself...

ballingforlife · Jul 28, 2013

What if you could use great people to boost points for the World Fair, definitely makes historical sense.

On a side note, a great athlete could be the international games' version for this.

At least for me, only under very rare circumstances would I ever use up a great person like this, however.

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