If will wait to see a hut,after to build capital,will find that tile,have ocean access and a special in river..Good luck !
GOTM 173 spoiler
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I finished the map after 1500 AD,I don't know for this size the year for restarts stopped.
4000 BC
One settler moved a tile,a hut revealed,Finder shows seed 2X.Searching for specials,I saw a tile with 4 specials few tiles distance.Settlers moved,bad surprise,tile is jungle...,irrigation 15 turns.First hut a none horseman.
3850 BC
Berlin founded in jungle tile,a tile need to mining to reveal a special.
Not have all moves in a text file,not have time for this,I play other games online...
Map have a small number of AI players,in my game just a restart,having MPE map obtained,unfortunately new civ is in other island,but I have a coastal city in that island from a hut and diplomats from ice borders comes to help after clearing some huts with a trireme.
Barbarians in my game more activity,my luck was more leaders captured,100g,100g,etc.
A coastal city from AI captured by barbarians,my diplomat bribes 2 barbarian archers,price for city(size 6) is over 300 gold,too much,they capture the city,killing a new leader,very good 100 gold.
War with orange AI was started in 500 BC,reason a horseman closing the road for my settler going to make a city in a good position,tribute demanding,my chariot kills that horseman.
Orange AI eliminated with chariots,legions,horsemen and diplomats in 560 AD,Hanging Gardens captured,but more cities in revolt,having over 6 cities the limit in monarchy for medium size map keeping 'strange' luxury rate 20 % for monarchy.New civ restarted(3 cities) eliminated with crusaders and few barbarian horsemen bribed near AI capital.Last old AI civ,a weak civ,a small commerce with they,cities just size 3 and short distance,having 2 cities,third new city maked late destroyed,size 1,.They paid tribute few times,when treasury become 50 gold,they declare war.Eliminated with crusaders from a caravel and a crusader from an ex-orange city.
After Statue,communism,game finished in this government.
Wonders:Colossus,HG(captured),Pyramids,MPE,Mike,C Obs,Leo,Statue.
Cities:24(3 from huts),population 5 350 000,game finished in 1680 AD.
Good luck all with this map !
4000 BC
One settler moved a tile,a hut revealed,Finder shows seed 2X.Searching for specials,I saw a tile with 4 specials few tiles distance.Settlers moved,bad surprise,tile is jungle...,irrigation 15 turns.First hut a none horseman.
3850 BC
Berlin founded in jungle tile,a tile need to mining to reveal a special.
Not have all moves in a text file,not have time for this,I play other games online...
Map have a small number of AI players,in my game just a restart,having MPE map obtained,unfortunately new civ is in other island,but I have a coastal city in that island from a hut and diplomats from ice borders comes to help after clearing some huts with a trireme.
Barbarians in my game more activity,my luck was more leaders captured,100g,100g,etc.
A coastal city from AI captured by barbarians,my diplomat bribes 2 barbarian archers,price for city(size 6) is over 300 gold,too much,they capture the city,killing a new leader,very good 100 gold
.War with orange AI was started in 500 BC,reason a horseman closing the road for my settler going to make a city in a good position,tribute demanding,my chariot kills that horseman.
Orange AI eliminated with chariots,legions,horsemen and diplomats in 560 AD,Hanging Gardens captured,but more cities in revolt,having over 6 cities the limit in monarchy for medium size map keeping 'strange' luxury rate 20 % for monarchy.New civ restarted(3 cities) eliminated with crusaders and few barbarian horsemen bribed near AI capital.Last old AI civ,a weak civ,a small commerce with they,cities just size 3 and short distance,having 2 cities,third new city maked late destroyed,size 1,.They paid tribute few times,when treasury become 50 gold,they declare war.Eliminated with crusaders from a caravel and a crusader from an ex-orange city.
After Statue,communism,game finished in this government.
Wonders:Colossus,HG(captured),Pyramids,MPE,Mike,C Obs,Leo,Statue.
Cities:24(3 from huts),population 5 350 000,game finished in 1680 AD.
Good luck all with this map !
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Things are looking good so far. After the desastrous #172, I went back to my usual style: Peaceful expansion, try to find a good SSC-site, expand more, try and so on... It will probably be landing, but it will be hard to do this early, without a key civ.
Resource seed is 6, 22 or 54; southern whale is top of a 4-special-site
-4000 Berlin founded, move west, discover hut, seed 22 or 54
-3950 Horse from hut, moving south
-3850 Leipzig founded; take a look at top5 and only China is in
-3800 Burial->Alph
-3650 Buffalo @ 66,18 tells us seed is 22; nice SSC-Location @ 77,23(whale, wheat, hidden pheasant on river); Greeks are also in
-3550 Nomads from mountain hut, excellent
-3500 Alph->Bronze;
-3450 Nomads starts foresting pheasant, we will keep him
-3400 Advanced tribe (Hamburg) @65,29
-3250 Horse from hut
-3100 Bronze->Laws; Archer (will be needed to be rehomed)
-2950 Königsberg founded at SSC-site
-2850 Weeds in hut
-2800 25g from htu
-2750 Frankfurt founded
-2700 Laws->Monarchy(60); München founded from nomads, Ouch, riot factor!
-2650 We have a horse "near Peking"
-2550 50g from hut; 29 beakers done
-2400 Barb horse from hut -> we kill it; 52 beakers done
(Barbs disembark near München - luckily on island 6)
-2250 Mon(revolt&est.)->Currency; Advanced tribe (Heidelberg, close to china), nice, but I had other plans for my next (and only riot-facor-unaffected) city
-2200 Discover that the horse southeast is near Peking->Now we know roughly the the chinese are
Stats at 2000BC:
pop.: 130k; Cities: 7; techs: 5; gold: 126; Gov.: Mon; wonders: -; TR: 0D/0F
units: 4 settler, 6 warrior, 1 Archer, 2 horse,
Goals: Expand, find rivals
-1950 Nürnberg founded Barb archer on the map - ruch phalanx in Heidelberg
-1850 Curr->Trade; pop hut and meet chinese, sign peace, they offer masonry, we gamble and get ... masonry! Only choice. We also learn that they are at war with greeks and get a nomad from that hut
-1750 Check if china has a new tech, obviously not, demand tribute, get none; Attack barb archer with warrior to hurt him before he attacks, lose but archer is almost dead, that's nice
(Barb Archer dies attacking)
-1650 Köln founded; barb leader vanishes in known territory... unfortunate
-1550 HBR from hut, not good
-1450 Huts: Chariot + Advanced tribe (Hannover)
-1400 Trade->pottery
(China destroyed by Greeks; Barb Archer dies attacking)
-1350 Barb leader 100g; Bremen founded
-1250 Stuttgart founded
(Meet Greek horse, sign peace, obviously do not have any techs for us)
-1100 Americans are in (Washington is demanding hides)
-1000 Bonn founded
Stats at 1000BC:
pop.: 390k; Cities: 13; techs: 9; gold: 91; Gov.: Mon; wonders: -; TR: 0D/0F
units: 5 settler, 15 warrior, 4 phalanx, 1 Archer, 2 horse, 1 chariot, 2 vans
Goals: Expand, find rivals, Marco Polo & HG
-975 Marco Polo built, Americans and Greeks are in, nobody has techs we don't have...not even mapmaking or warrior code...
Resource seed is 6, 22 or 54; southern whale is top of a 4-special-site
-4000 Berlin founded, move west, discover hut, seed 22 or 54
-3950 Horse from hut, moving south
-3850 Leipzig founded; take a look at top5 and only China is in
-3800 Burial->Alph
-3650 Buffalo @ 66,18 tells us seed is 22; nice SSC-Location @ 77,23(whale, wheat, hidden pheasant on river); Greeks are also in
-3550 Nomads from mountain hut, excellent
-3500 Alph->Bronze;
-3450 Nomads starts foresting pheasant, we will keep him
-3400 Advanced tribe (Hamburg) @65,29
-3250 Horse from hut
-3100 Bronze->Laws; Archer (will be needed to be rehomed)
-2950 Königsberg founded at SSC-site
-2850 Weeds in hut
-2800 25g from htu
-2750 Frankfurt founded
-2700 Laws->Monarchy(60); München founded from nomads, Ouch, riot factor!
-2650 We have a horse "near Peking"
-2550 50g from hut; 29 beakers done
-2400 Barb horse from hut -> we kill it; 52 beakers done
(Barbs disembark near München - luckily on island 6)
-2250 Mon(revolt&est.)->Currency; Advanced tribe (Heidelberg, close to china), nice, but I had other plans for my next (and only riot-facor-unaffected) city
-2200 Discover that the horse southeast is near Peking->Now we know roughly the the chinese are
Stats at 2000BC:
pop.: 130k; Cities: 7; techs: 5; gold: 126; Gov.: Mon; wonders: -; TR: 0D/0F
units: 4 settler, 6 warrior, 1 Archer, 2 horse,
Goals: Expand, find rivals
-1950 Nürnberg founded Barb archer on the map - ruch phalanx in Heidelberg
-1850 Curr->Trade; pop hut and meet chinese, sign peace, they offer masonry, we gamble and get ... masonry! Only choice. We also learn that they are at war with greeks and get a nomad from that hut
-1750 Check if china has a new tech, obviously not, demand tribute, get none; Attack barb archer with warrior to hurt him before he attacks, lose but archer is almost dead, that's nice
(Barb Archer dies attacking)
-1650 Köln founded; barb leader vanishes in known territory... unfortunate
-1550 HBR from hut, not good
-1450 Huts: Chariot + Advanced tribe (Hannover)
-1400 Trade->pottery
(China destroyed by Greeks; Barb Archer dies attacking)
-1350 Barb leader 100g; Bremen founded
-1250 Stuttgart founded
(Meet Greek horse, sign peace, obviously do not have any techs for us)
-1100 Americans are in (Washington is demanding hides)
-1000 Bonn founded
Stats at 1000BC:
pop.: 390k; Cities: 13; techs: 9; gold: 91; Gov.: Mon; wonders: -; TR: 0D/0F
units: 5 settler, 15 warrior, 4 phalanx, 1 Archer, 2 horse, 1 chariot, 2 vans
Goals: Expand, find rivals, Marco Polo & HG
-975 Marco Polo built, Americans and Greeks are in, nobody has techs we don't have...not even mapmaking or warrior code...
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Can someone arrest Major please? I think he stole all my hut luck for this game...
GOTM173: Christmas is here, and so is my free time. Civ2 it is.
Grass nearby, and 2 whales. A harbour as well, so I have a gut feeling that my homeland will be rather hospitable for growth. I’m feeling the spaceship itch… but only a normal-sized map with 5 civs. We’ll see!
Huh. Black Clicking seems to show that we are on a smallish island. (Post-game edit: LEL.) Probably need to go Mon > MM > Trade. Darnit… I hate managing shipchains.
4000 BC: Move settler west. OH, HELLO! Hut sighted. Buuuut we won’t wait to settle because the starting island seems to be small. Berlin built.
3950 BC: > Alphabet. Hut popped: Archers. That’s a unit I won’t be able to get for free.
3900 BC: The only spot available to use up a whale is on a hill… darnit!
3800 BC: Hut popped: Horseman. Warrior in Berlin, will build settler next.
3750 BC: Alphabet > Code of Laws. Quite rough terrain SW of Berlin.. except for that river. Dead end reached west, but already new lands are sighted. No wait, it’s still landmass 5. K, I need to expand south then.
3650 BC: Start irrigating a city site near Berlin. 5 turns to cut down the forest. (Postgame edit: wasting that much time for the sake of optimal city placement is not a very good idea...)
3600 BC: New land sighted North of Berlin. Landmass 1!
3500 BC: RB 8s in Berlin. Archer disbanded in Berlin: new settler in 3 turns. Might as well do the size 1 trick then. Oh wait, Berlin’s already size 2. I’m dumb.
3400 BC: Hut: Archers. Leipzig built at (76, 20)
3300 BC: Code of Laws > Map Making.
3150 BC: LOTS of rivers down south. Hut: Pottery. Dangit man…
3050 BC: Hambourg built on hill at (71.11) Oddly enough the city already has 3 shields in its box.
2850 BC: BARBS NEAR BERLIN. Warrior is RB’d for 16g. Hut: 50g. Hut: Nothing.
2800 BC: Berlin warrior will sit on (75, 15) and stay idle for ever and ever and ever and ever and… yeah. Better than losing all my cities. Dang boat’s too dumb to just move a square.
2750 BC: Map Making > Cerem Burial. Techrate 12 turns. Pretty sure Monarchy is in tech group 2.
2700 BC: Hut: Barbs! They peace out.
2600 BC: Leipzig settlers.
2500 BC: Konigsberg built at (78,26)
2450 BC: Hut: More barbs. This time they do not spare us.
2400 BC: Hut: More barbs… 3 squares from Konigsberg. WTF?!?!? According to Samson’s research, It’s supposed to be 4 squares minimum! Lost all of my exploring units. I’m kinda boned…
2250 BC: Ceremonial Burial > BW, Monarchy not available… guess I misunderstood. Tech group 0!
2100 BC: Hambourg Trireme.
2000 BC: Hut: Chariot. That helps… but Koni’s in a poor spot for unit support. Still 12 turns a tech.
Status at 2000 BC:
Cities: 4 Techs: 5 (currently researching BW) Government: Despotism Revenue:4 Cost: 0 Gold: 79 T4L0S6
Units: 2 settlers, 6 Warriors, 1 Trireme, 1 Chariot.
Nothing else of note, other than the 2 settlers will settle soon, but that’s the end of that wave. Will start building a wonder in Berlin soon. Homeland’s a lot bigger than I thought it would be, but I don’t regret disbanding the archers. Just bad luck so far on huts, I say.
1950 BC: Francfort built at (74, 6) as an offshore city. Konigsberg looks OK as an SSC. NOTE TO SELF: (74, 22) has a hidden special.
1900 BC: Munich built at (71, 23) He be mad! Berlin starts HG.
1850 BC: Kill murderous Barb horse near Konigsberg: warrior vet.
1800 BC: Meet Chinese warrior. Peace, no tech trade. OH WAIT, forgot to apply the hostility patch. BRB.
1750 BC: BW > Monarchy. We are Supreme, as expected. Patch doesn’t… Work… I’m not sure if I understand it properly so I’ll request tech assistance on the GOTM boards. (Postgame edit: Got a patched .exe from another source. Works OK except that the Find City function is bugged, swaps the game to “nil” difficulty instead of actually working and everything goes haywire. Dunno.)
1700 BC: Meet Greek horseman. Peace. Apparently they are at war with the Chinese.
1600 BC: Civil disorder in Leipzig. Hut: HBR. Techrate 15 turns.
1500 BC: Hut: Nomads! That’s more like it.
1450 BC: Hut: Archers.
1400 BC: Hut: Barbs, killed for vet.
1350 BC: Disband Konigsberg warrior to avoid shield shortage as settler is built.
1300 BC: Heidelbourg built at (82, 22) Hut: AT of Nuremberg at (51, 5) That Trireme is paying dividends.
1250 BC: Oedo year is 1050 BC. Cologne built at (65, 13) Black hat! Still far away from Trade… Hanover built at (62, 6) Many cities need entertainers. Techrate 8 turns.
1150 BC: Brême built at (75, 31) And that’s the end of the 3rd wave. 11 cities so far.
1100 BC: Monarchy > Currency. REVOLUTION. T1L6S3. The Barb trireme near Berlin has despawned! Hallelujah.avi.
1050 BC: Monarchy established. T3L0S7, techrate 8 turns.
Status at 950 BC:
Cities: 11 Pop: 210,000 Techs: 8 (currently researching Currency) Government: Monarchy Revenue: 7 Cost: 0 Gold: 101 T3L0S7
Units: 0 settlers, 14 Warriors, 1 Trireme, 1 Chariot, 1 Archer
WoWs: None. Currently building HG
Foreign Officer:
Peace with Chinese and Greeks.
GOTM173: Christmas is here, and so is my free time. Civ2 it is.
Grass nearby, and 2 whales. A harbour as well, so I have a gut feeling that my homeland will be rather hospitable for growth. I’m feeling the spaceship itch… but only a normal-sized map with 5 civs. We’ll see!
Huh. Black Clicking seems to show that we are on a smallish island. (Post-game edit: LEL.) Probably need to go Mon > MM > Trade. Darnit… I hate managing shipchains.
4000 BC: Move settler west. OH, HELLO! Hut sighted. Buuuut we won’t wait to settle because the starting island seems to be small. Berlin built.
3950 BC: > Alphabet. Hut popped: Archers. That’s a unit I won’t be able to get for free.
3900 BC: The only spot available to use up a whale is on a hill… darnit!
3800 BC: Hut popped: Horseman. Warrior in Berlin, will build settler next.
3750 BC: Alphabet > Code of Laws. Quite rough terrain SW of Berlin.. except for that river. Dead end reached west, but already new lands are sighted. No wait, it’s still landmass 5. K, I need to expand south then.
3650 BC: Start irrigating a city site near Berlin. 5 turns to cut down the forest. (Postgame edit: wasting that much time for the sake of optimal city placement is not a very good idea...)
3600 BC: New land sighted North of Berlin. Landmass 1!
3500 BC: RB 8s in Berlin. Archer disbanded in Berlin: new settler in 3 turns. Might as well do the size 1 trick then. Oh wait, Berlin’s already size 2. I’m dumb.
3400 BC: Hut: Archers. Leipzig built at (76, 20)
3300 BC: Code of Laws > Map Making.
3150 BC: LOTS of rivers down south. Hut: Pottery. Dangit man…
3050 BC: Hambourg built on hill at (71.11) Oddly enough the city already has 3 shields in its box.
2850 BC: BARBS NEAR BERLIN. Warrior is RB’d for 16g. Hut: 50g. Hut: Nothing.
2800 BC: Berlin warrior will sit on (75, 15) and stay idle for ever and ever and ever and ever and… yeah. Better than losing all my cities. Dang boat’s too dumb to just move a square.
2750 BC: Map Making > Cerem Burial. Techrate 12 turns. Pretty sure Monarchy is in tech group 2.
2700 BC: Hut: Barbs! They peace out.
2600 BC: Leipzig settlers.
2500 BC: Konigsberg built at (78,26)
2450 BC: Hut: More barbs. This time they do not spare us.
2400 BC: Hut: More barbs… 3 squares from Konigsberg. WTF?!?!? According to Samson’s research, It’s supposed to be 4 squares minimum! Lost all of my exploring units. I’m kinda boned…
2250 BC: Ceremonial Burial > BW, Monarchy not available… guess I misunderstood. Tech group 0!
2100 BC: Hambourg Trireme.
2000 BC: Hut: Chariot. That helps… but Koni’s in a poor spot for unit support. Still 12 turns a tech.
Status at 2000 BC:
Cities: 4 Techs: 5 (currently researching BW) Government: Despotism Revenue:4 Cost: 0 Gold: 79 T4L0S6
Units: 2 settlers, 6 Warriors, 1 Trireme, 1 Chariot.
Nothing else of note, other than the 2 settlers will settle soon, but that’s the end of that wave. Will start building a wonder in Berlin soon. Homeland’s a lot bigger than I thought it would be, but I don’t regret disbanding the archers. Just bad luck so far on huts, I say.
1950 BC: Francfort built at (74, 6) as an offshore city. Konigsberg looks OK as an SSC. NOTE TO SELF: (74, 22) has a hidden special.
1900 BC: Munich built at (71, 23) He be mad! Berlin starts HG.
1850 BC: Kill murderous Barb horse near Konigsberg: warrior vet.
1800 BC: Meet Chinese warrior. Peace, no tech trade. OH WAIT, forgot to apply the hostility patch. BRB.
1750 BC: BW > Monarchy. We are Supreme, as expected. Patch doesn’t… Work… I’m not sure if I understand it properly so I’ll request tech assistance on the GOTM boards. (Postgame edit: Got a patched .exe from another source. Works OK except that the Find City function is bugged, swaps the game to “nil” difficulty instead of actually working and everything goes haywire. Dunno.)
1700 BC: Meet Greek horseman. Peace. Apparently they are at war with the Chinese.
1600 BC: Civil disorder in Leipzig. Hut: HBR. Techrate 15 turns.
1500 BC: Hut: Nomads! That’s more like it.
1450 BC: Hut: Archers.
1400 BC: Hut: Barbs, killed for vet.
1350 BC: Disband Konigsberg warrior to avoid shield shortage as settler is built.
1300 BC: Heidelbourg built at (82, 22) Hut: AT of Nuremberg at (51, 5) That Trireme is paying dividends.
1250 BC: Oedo year is 1050 BC. Cologne built at (65, 13) Black hat! Still far away from Trade… Hanover built at (62, 6) Many cities need entertainers. Techrate 8 turns.
1150 BC: Brême built at (75, 31) And that’s the end of the 3rd wave. 11 cities so far.
1100 BC: Monarchy > Currency. REVOLUTION. T1L6S3. The Barb trireme near Berlin has despawned! Hallelujah.avi.
1050 BC: Monarchy established. T3L0S7, techrate 8 turns.
Status at 950 BC:
Cities: 11 Pop: 210,000 Techs: 8 (currently researching Currency) Government: Monarchy Revenue: 7 Cost: 0 Gold: 101 T3L0S7
Units: 0 settlers, 14 Warriors, 1 Trireme, 1 Chariot, 1 Archer
WoWs: None. Currently building HG
Foreign Officer:
Peace with Chinese and Greeks.
Major Advantage
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Sorry about that. I thought you wouldn't need it ...
Things went on pretty well during the next 100 years, except for missing Lighthouse and the fact that nobody had any techs whatsoever when I had built Marco Polo. And my SSC losing a trade route early in the game because of city disappearance. On the plus-side, the Americans respawned on a different continent, ka-ching!
-975 Marco Polo built, Americans and Greeks are in, nobody has techs we don't have...not even mapmaking or warrior code...
-950 Pot->Mapmak.;
-925 Nomads
-900 HG built
-825 Salzburg, Dortmund founded
-775 Mapm->Writing; Get maps from America(offshore, on cont.2) and Greeks. Is there a safe passage towards america (maybe hugging the poles) or do we need LH? There also is a lake #4...need to be scouted
(Greeks start Colossus, but they won't get it done in 3 turns)
-750 Advanced tribe (Brandenburg)
-725 Büffelhausen founded
-675 Königsberg builds Colossus - Greeks switch to LH; supported horse from hut; kill two barb units heading for Brandenburg
-650 Dresden, Rostock founded
-625 Hildesheim founded
(Greeks are about to finish LH...)
-600 Writ.->Myst.; First delivery, demanded hides for 12g...heavy riots, maybe we shouldn't have any more cities until Michelangelo
(Athen Lighthouse)
Stats at 500BC:
pop.: 760k; Cities: 20; techs: 12; gold: 24; Gov.: Mon; wonders: HG, MPE, Colossus; TR: 0D/1F
units: 5 settler, 20 warrior, 7 phalanx, 1 Archer, 4 horse, 1 chariot, 2 boats, 6 vans
Goals: Monotheism and Michelangelo
-475 Myst.->Lit.;
-350 Cannae founded (on cont. 2)
-325 Lit.->Poly;
-275 Philo from hut(cont.1), not bad; construction from hut(cont.2), this will delay mono...not sure by how much
-250 Poly->Mono;
-200 None-archer from hut in America;
-175 1st real delivery Königsberg->Washington hides(u) for 172
(Greeks begin Pyramids, we could use them as well)
-150 Mono->medicine
-125 Michelangelo built; nomads north of America, barbs from polar hut
-100 Math from hut, could have gotten it from Greeks
-75 100g from hut; Göttingen, Potsdam founded
(Barbs capture Greek Shanghai, I am about to deliver a van there ...)
-50 Genua founded; van delivered anyway for 136 (nearest hides-demander was too far away); Medicine from hut, excellent! Well, almost, the sixth van for Shakespeare is not done yet...
-25 Research Republic;
(Greeks destroy Barb Shanghai - Königsberg and Heidelberg both lose a trade route)
+1 Pyramids built(Greeks switch to GW); Nomads in America, Republic from hut! Was planning to discover it in 60AD...
Stats at 1AD:
pop.: 1.25M; Cities: 24; techs: 21; gold: 82; Gov.: Mon; wonders: HG, MPE, Colossus, Michelangelo, Pyr; TR: 0D/1F
units: 10 settler, 20 warrior, 7 phalanx, 2 Archer, 4 horse, 1 chariot, 8 boats, 1 dip, 14 vans
Goals: Shakespeare next turn; Rep in 60AD, more expansion, more trade, bridgebuilding and road network, is KRC worth building? I never did until now...
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triggered...
900 BC: Greeks warn us to leave city of Canton… wait what? Barbs disembark near Francfort, horse kills the stack. Stuttgart built at (66, 26)
850 BC: Currency > Trade.
825 BC: Hut: Settlers, on a faraway continent. Leipzig settlers, starts LH as a placeholder.
750 BC: Bonn built at (31, 29)
675 BC: Trade > Masonry.
650 BC: 2 vans built. My pace of expansion is VERY slow. The map is very linear.
625 BC: Salzbourg built at (84, 28)
600 BC: 3 cities start rioting. Van in Berlin: HG will be done next turn. Van in Leipzig: 123s left for Pyramids. Hut near Thermopyles: Masonry. Thanks nerds.
575 BC: >Writing. Berlin HG! Pyramids will be done in 7 turns.
500 BC: Barbs near Salzbourg! Kill one of them, archer vet. Un-fortified, it’a 33/67 for a size 1 city…
Interturn: Archer survives. Yessir!
475 BC: Writing > Mysticism. I’m getting some black hats on size 2’s. Dortmund built at (79, 35)
Interturn: Greeks tell us to leave Athènes.
450 BC: 2 vans. No enemy civ seems to have started the wonder race… Greeks seem to be our main rivals.
425 BC: Van in Leipzig: 52s left. Hut: Seafaring. Hut: 50g. Brandenbourg built at (58, 10)
400 BC: Van in Leipzig: Pyramids next turn. Don’t really care for MPE since most powerful civ is on my landmass and I foresee a war soonish. Need to expand first. I’m behind popwise.Naples built at (69, 17) not exactly the best build site but I hate seeing holes unplugged in my city grid.
375 BC: LEIPZIG PYRAMIDS. Snagging both Pyramids and HG usually means you win by sheer pop, even before Republic. Issos built at (59, 17)
350 BC: Berlin starts MPE. Barb leader killed for 100g.
Interturn: Barbs near Dortumund.
300 BC: Hut: Nomads. Near Athènes as well. Hummm… Kill 1 Barb horse near Dortmund, but take a ton of damage in the process: I’ll need another one, so disband the hurt horsie to RB another one.
275 BC: Mysticism > Literacy. Hut: Construction.
250 BC: Cunaxa built at 85, 17. 126s in Berlin.
225 BC: Germans most powerful. It seems like there are only 3 players in the map?!? Chinese: 100g. Give a bunch of techs to the Greeks, they share maps at Worshipful. They only have 6 cities. Beijing is shown on the map, they don’t appear to have a second city. No use going for LH, better Marco’s to doublecheck. That would explain why no one started a wonder: The Greeks are gungho and the Chinese are fighting for survival.
200 BC: Colossus started in Konigsberg. Cremona built at (55, 21). Cannae built at (23, 53) as a safe base for the Greeks. Hut: Barbs. RIP Chariot.
175 BC: A bunch of cities riot, as a critical riot factor key is hit. Chinese: Warrior Code.
125 BC: Berlin MPE. Confirmed, only 3 civs in game! Settler pops a hut: get… settlers. Capoue built at who cares, I’ll stop noting coords. Turin built.
100 BC: Gênes built. Techrate 9 turns. 16/20 techs, ow…
75 BC: Hut: Settlers.
50 BC: Literacy > Polytheism. Hut: 50g. Vérone built. Salamis built. Hut: Mathematics. Pls with the offpath techs... Dresden built. Lisbonne built.
1 AD: Hut: Settlers.
STATUS AT START OF 1 AD:
Cities: 29 Pop: 940,000 Techs: 18 (currently researching Polytheism) Government: Monarchy Revenue: 23 Cost: 4 Gold: 22 T3L0S7
Units: 11 settlers, 28 Warriors, 3 Triremes, 2 Horsemen, 1 Archer, 3 Caravans.
WoWs: HG, Pyramids, MPE. Currently building Colossus
Foreign Officer:
Peace and embassies with Chinese and Greeks. Maps with Greeks. No other civs are present. SAVE.
Just looked at this thread. Posts show I could have done better with map analysis and black clicking before starting.
4000- Found Berlin. Other settler W.
Start on CB.
3950- Chinese are in. Settler W, pops Hut: archers.
3900-
3850- Still just the two of us. Found Leipzig (72,12).
3800- disc CB -> Alp. Ah, Greeks are in. Archer pops Hut: 25g.
...
3500- disc Alp -> BW. Looks like just the 3 of us then, with no purple.
3450- Berlin = size 2.
3400-
3350-
3300- Archers change base to Leipzig, as it grows to size 2.
3250- Berlin builds settlers.
3200-
3150- Leipzig builds settlers.
3100-
3050- disc BW -> CoL. Found Hamburg, on the Buffalo. Warriors re-homed.
3000- Found Konigsberg(67,13).
...
2650- disc CoL -> Mon.
...
2250- Found Frankfurt(78,24).
2200-
2150- disc Mon -> Curr. Found Munich(66,20).
2100- Revolution.
Barb archer lands near Hamburg.
2050. Become Monarchy.
2000-
1950- Hut(nr Hamburg): Horse. It kills the barb archer.
...
1750- Our horse meets a Greek one "nr Munich", we agree peace. We are Supreme.
1700- disc Curr -> Trade.
1650-
1600- Horse is "nr Beijing" - maybe not near, but suggests maybe we're all on continent 5?
1550- Found Heidelburg - immediate redhat.
1500-
1450-
1400-
1350- Found Nuremberg.
1300- disc Trade -> MM.
Unco-op Greeks offer Mas for BW. Have they got MM? I guess no, so we say no.
Hut: Barb horse.
Warrior lost.
1250- disorder Hamburg. Found Cologne. Hut(nr Frankfurt): Chariot.
1200- Found Hannover.
1150-
1100- Horse finds a Greek settler.
We are warned away from Sparta (48,58).
1050- Greeks give 75g. We put research up.
1000-
Status.
pop.: 16(230k); Cities: 10; techs: 7; gold: 133; Gov.: Mon; wonders: -; TR: 0D/0F
units: 4 settler, 9 warrior, 5 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 horse, 1 chariot, 2 vans.
Goals: MPE (coming in ~6 turns), HG, overseas settlements and a trade route or two.
4000- Found Berlin. Other settler W.
Start on CB.
3950- Chinese are in. Settler W, pops Hut: archers.
3900-
3850- Still just the two of us. Found Leipzig (72,12).
3800- disc CB -> Alp. Ah, Greeks are in. Archer pops Hut: 25g.
...
3500- disc Alp -> BW. Looks like just the 3 of us then, with no purple.
3450- Berlin = size 2.
3400-
3350-
3300- Archers change base to Leipzig, as it grows to size 2.
3250- Berlin builds settlers.
3200-
3150- Leipzig builds settlers.
3100-
3050- disc BW -> CoL. Found Hamburg, on the Buffalo. Warriors re-homed.
3000- Found Konigsberg(67,13).
...
2650- disc CoL -> Mon.
...
2250- Found Frankfurt(78,24).
2200-
2150- disc Mon -> Curr. Found Munich(66,20).
2100- Revolution.
Barb archer lands near Hamburg.
2050. Become Monarchy.
2000-
1950- Hut(nr Hamburg): Horse. It kills the barb archer.
...
1750- Our horse meets a Greek one "nr Munich", we agree peace. We are Supreme.
1700- disc Curr -> Trade.
1650-
1600- Horse is "nr Beijing" - maybe not near, but suggests maybe we're all on continent 5?
1550- Found Heidelburg - immediate redhat.
1500-
1450-
1400-
1350- Found Nuremberg.
1300- disc Trade -> MM.
Unco-op Greeks offer Mas for BW. Have they got MM? I guess no, so we say no.
Hut: Barb horse.
Warrior lost.
1250- disorder Hamburg. Found Cologne. Hut(nr Frankfurt): Chariot.
1200- Found Hannover.
1150-
1100- Horse finds a Greek settler.
We are warned away from Sparta (48,58).
1050- Greeks give 75g. We put research up.
1000-
Status.
pop.: 16(230k); Cities: 10; techs: 7; gold: 133; Gov.: Mon; wonders: -; TR: 0D/0F
units: 4 settler, 9 warrior, 5 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 horse, 1 chariot, 2 vans.
Goals: MPE (coming in ~6 turns), HG, overseas settlements and a trade route or two.
Jokemaster
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My log is embarassing.
No, but really.
1 AD: Prague built.
20 AD: Van in Konigsberg: 72s left for Colossus.
40 AD: Salzbourg built. Hut: Barbs! Near Bonn and Gênes… 22s left in Konigsberg for Colossus.
Interturn: Greeks start Colossus. KEK. Barbs land near Frankfurt. Not so kek.
80 AD: Bergen built.
100 AD: Polytheism > Philosophy. Unrest is becoming difficult to handle. Mono is a 0 tech, and I’ll be on 2. Ok, don’t pop any huts for the next 8 turns.
140 AD: Greeks almost done with Colossus. Say whaat?? Rush it for 28g in Konigsberg.
160 AD: Konigsberg Colossus. Greeks switch to Lighthouse. RIP. Milan built.
180 AD: Ghent built. Pise built. Dublin built.
200 AD: Civil disorder in HG Berlin despite 2 garrisons and a temple O_o AT of Toronto. Only my second AT: I’ve had more settlers. Honestly surprised I didn’t get another one here as well, terrain was good for one. Melbourne built.
240 AD: Sydney built. Chinese: 100g.
260 AD: Maybe I should have started stockpiling more vans for Mikes earlier instead of building temples. Berlin II built. I’m not going to have Mikes ready in time.
280 AD Philosophy >/ Monotheism > The Republic.
300 AD: Hut: The Republic. T7L0S3.
320 AD: >Astronomy. It seems like size 2 cities with a Temple are in perma riot without garrison, but size 3 need 3 garrison and size 4 need elvis no matter what, so… not fun.
340 AD: Leipzig II built.
360 AD: Medicine from a hut.
Interturn: Barbs near Heidelbourg!
380 AD: Kill Barb archer after losing one warrior. Hambourg II built.
400 AD: Mikes started in Leipzig. 4 vans dumped in.
Interturn: Greeks take Beijing. China only has 1 city left.
420 AD: T3L0S7.
440 AD: 42s left for Mikes: The rest is RB’d. Oedo year is 460 AD… PERFECT. Well, relatively speaking, of course. T0L6S4. Konigsberg II built.
460 AD: Mikes in Leipzig. REPUBLIC. T4L6S0. I’ll try to only celebrate the inner core this time around, can’t waste much time. Francfort II built. 2 va
480 AD: 2 vans in SSC Konigsberg: 12 and 24g. Ah no, the salt van was supposed to be stockpiled for Cope’s… Munich II built. Hut: Settlers.
Interturn: Nankin taken by Greeks. Chinese Civ killed by Greeks!
500 AD: Americans respawn.
STATUS AT 500 AD:
Cities: 46 Pop: 3,710,000 Techs: 23 (currently researching Astronomy) Government: Republic Revenue: 105 Cost: 36 Gold: 22 T4L6S0
Units: 11 settlers, 14 Warriors, 5 Phalanxes, 1 Legion, 3 Triremes, 4 Horsemen, 1 Archer, 3 crusaders, 0 Caravans.
WoWs: HG, Pyramids, MPE, Colossus, Mikes. Prepping for Copes in SSC.
Foreign Officer:
Peace and Embassies with Greeks.
Americans just respawned: no contact yet.
PLANS: Celebrate inner core, then build up SSC and look towards open land. Sun Tzu if the Americans turn out to be a bad trading partner.
No, but really.
1 AD: Prague built.
20 AD: Van in Konigsberg: 72s left for Colossus.
40 AD: Salzbourg built. Hut: Barbs! Near Bonn and Gênes… 22s left in Konigsberg for Colossus.
Interturn: Greeks start Colossus. KEK. Barbs land near Frankfurt. Not so kek.
80 AD: Bergen built.
100 AD: Polytheism > Philosophy. Unrest is becoming difficult to handle. Mono is a 0 tech, and I’ll be on 2. Ok, don’t pop any huts for the next 8 turns.
140 AD: Greeks almost done with Colossus. Say whaat?? Rush it for 28g in Konigsberg.
160 AD: Konigsberg Colossus. Greeks switch to Lighthouse. RIP. Milan built.
180 AD: Ghent built. Pise built. Dublin built.
200 AD: Civil disorder in HG Berlin despite 2 garrisons and a temple O_o AT of Toronto. Only my second AT: I’ve had more settlers. Honestly surprised I didn’t get another one here as well, terrain was good for one. Melbourne built.
240 AD: Sydney built. Chinese: 100g.
260 AD: Maybe I should have started stockpiling more vans for Mikes earlier instead of building temples. Berlin II built. I’m not going to have Mikes ready in time.
280 AD Philosophy >/ Monotheism > The Republic.
300 AD: Hut: The Republic. T7L0S3.
320 AD: >Astronomy. It seems like size 2 cities with a Temple are in perma riot without garrison, but size 3 need 3 garrison and size 4 need elvis no matter what, so… not fun.
340 AD: Leipzig II built.
360 AD: Medicine from a hut.
Interturn: Barbs near Heidelbourg!
380 AD: Kill Barb archer after losing one warrior. Hambourg II built.
400 AD: Mikes started in Leipzig. 4 vans dumped in.
Interturn: Greeks take Beijing. China only has 1 city left.
420 AD: T3L0S7.
440 AD: 42s left for Mikes: The rest is RB’d. Oedo year is 460 AD… PERFECT. Well, relatively speaking, of course. T0L6S4. Konigsberg II built.
460 AD: Mikes in Leipzig. REPUBLIC. T4L6S0. I’ll try to only celebrate the inner core this time around, can’t waste much time. Francfort II built. 2 va
480 AD: 2 vans in SSC Konigsberg: 12 and 24g. Ah no, the salt van was supposed to be stockpiled for Cope’s… Munich II built. Hut: Settlers.
Interturn: Nankin taken by Greeks. Chinese Civ killed by Greeks!
500 AD: Americans respawn.
STATUS AT 500 AD:
Cities: 46 Pop: 3,710,000 Techs: 23 (currently researching Astronomy) Government: Republic Revenue: 105 Cost: 36 Gold: 22 T4L6S0
Units: 11 settlers, 14 Warriors, 5 Phalanxes, 1 Legion, 3 Triremes, 4 Horsemen, 1 Archer, 3 crusaders, 0 Caravans.
WoWs: HG, Pyramids, MPE, Colossus, Mikes. Prepping for Copes in SSC.
Foreign Officer:
Peace and Embassies with Greeks.
Americans just respawned: no contact yet.
PLANS: Celebrate inner core, then build up SSC and look towards open land. Sun Tzu if the Americans turn out to be a bad trading partner.
Major Advantage
Prince
I think things went a little better over here. In this segment, techs and wonders came along nicely, but expansion was a little poor... the terrain was mostly poor as well, but in hindsight, there were still a lot of spots that could have done with cities...
(America steals HBR, we choose not to care)
20 Research Wheel; Shakespeare built; Get Wheel from Greece; Rosenheim founded; delivery 200
40 Engineering->Sanitation; Revolution
60 Become Republic; Delivery 400;
80 A horse from us just outside empty New York...tempting...but no;
120 Delivery 240
140 San.->Banking; KRC built in Königsberg, K. is supplying hides, lets try for a lot of vans
160 25g from hut, deliveries take too long, maybe channel cities @11,23 and 15,23???
180 Delivery 248
200 50g from hut
220 Barb horses from hut, bribe one for 41; delivery 600
(Americans Seafaring; barbs kill our dip)
240 Banking->Astronomy; 320, Washington out of hides demand...
, get seafaring from America, we could do with some harbors
260 Deliv. 660; Crusader, 50g, nomads from huts
280 Astro->(D'oh!! University is blocked! choices are Nav, Inv, WC)WC; 144, 344; get WC from Greeks
(Barb chariots approaching our caravan-trail, we have an archer there)
300 Research Univ., Copernicus built, Bremerhaven founded
320 Ouch, missed Uni, so no vans cashed in; 50g from hut
340 Uni->Economics; Lissabon founded; deliv. 612
(Pollution near Königsberg)
360 Two barb chariots killed, also leader grabbed for 100g; Deliv. 168; Braunschweig founded
380 Econ.->IW; Mailand founded; 448, 600; get IW from Greece and sign peace?! Need to watch out for those back-to-contacts
400 Bridge-building->Gravity; Cottbus founded; 232; Königsberg is size 21
(Crusader lost to barbs)
420 Delivery 732
440 Grav.->Chem; Königsberg is out of hides supply; Barb leader 100g; 906
460 Chem.->Navigation (Bach is less urgent then better boats); Osnabrück founded; Somehow I messed up my badly-organized shipchain...
(Greeks Feudalism, that's what I have been waiting for...but they immediately start Sun Tzu...and sneak attack! Hannover holds, defender in Rostock defeated)
480 Greeks don't want to talk; 540; put 2 Rostock vans into wonder, rehome a boat, 1 van + settler will be lost, rush some military units
(Greeks take Rostock)
500 Navigation->Invention; Newton College; 348; Greeks hail us and senate signs peace with Greeks..ok, we will subvert Rostock back when it is time for Feudalism
Stats at 500AD:
pop.: 7.51M; Cities: 32; techs: 35; gold: 2714; Gov.: Rep; wonders: HG, MPE, Colossus, Michelangelo, Pyr, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton, KRC; TR: 3D/17F
units: 13 settler, 7 warrior, 7 phalanx, 3 Archer, 1 Legion, 3 horse, 1 chariot, 2 Crusader, 9 boats, 2 dip, 29 vans
Goals: Leonardo, Magnetism, Demo; Bach; probably Darwin to speed up Corporation
(America steals HBR, we choose not to care)
20 Research Wheel; Shakespeare built; Get Wheel from Greece; Rosenheim founded; delivery 200
40 Engineering->Sanitation; Revolution
60 Become Republic; Delivery 400;
80 A horse from us just outside empty New York...tempting...but no;
120 Delivery 240
140 San.->Banking; KRC built in Königsberg, K. is supplying hides, lets try for a lot of vans
160 25g from hut, deliveries take too long, maybe channel cities @11,23 and 15,23???
180 Delivery 248
200 50g from hut
220 Barb horses from hut, bribe one for 41; delivery 600
(Americans Seafaring; barbs kill our dip)
240 Banking->Astronomy; 320, Washington out of hides demand...
, get seafaring from America, we could do with some harbors260 Deliv. 660; Crusader, 50g, nomads from huts
280 Astro->(D'oh!! University is blocked! choices are Nav, Inv, WC)WC; 144, 344; get WC from Greeks
(Barb chariots approaching our caravan-trail, we have an archer there)
300 Research Univ., Copernicus built, Bremerhaven founded
320 Ouch, missed Uni, so no vans cashed in; 50g from hut
340 Uni->Economics; Lissabon founded; deliv. 612
(Pollution near Königsberg)
360 Two barb chariots killed, also leader grabbed for 100g; Deliv. 168; Braunschweig founded
380 Econ.->IW; Mailand founded; 448, 600; get IW from Greece and sign peace?! Need to watch out for those back-to-contacts
400 Bridge-building->Gravity; Cottbus founded; 232; Königsberg is size 21
(Crusader lost to barbs)
420 Delivery 732
440 Grav.->Chem; Königsberg is out of hides supply
; Barb leader 100g; 906460 Chem.->Navigation (Bach is less urgent then better boats); Osnabrück founded; Somehow I messed up my badly-organized shipchain...
(Greeks Feudalism, that's what I have been waiting for...but they immediately start Sun Tzu...and sneak attack! Hannover holds, defender in Rostock defeated)
480 Greeks don't want to talk; 540; put 2 Rostock vans into wonder, rehome a boat, 1 van + settler will be lost, rush some military units
(Greeks take Rostock)
500 Navigation->Invention; Newton College; 348; Greeks hail us and senate signs peace with Greeks..ok, we will subvert Rostock back when it is time for Feudalism
Stats at 500AD:
pop.: 7.51M; Cities: 32; techs: 35; gold: 2714; Gov.: Rep; wonders: HG, MPE, Colossus, Michelangelo, Pyr, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton, KRC; TR: 3D/17F
units: 13 settler, 7 warrior, 7 phalanx, 3 Archer, 1 Legion, 3 horse, 1 chariot, 2 Crusader, 9 boats, 2 dip, 29 vans
Goals: Leonardo, Magnetism, Demo; Bach; probably Darwin to speed up Corporation
So that was a way to do it: the Greeks eliminate the Chinese and cause an American re-spawn in a new world with higher trade bonuses.
That didn't happen here, I got behind the other games reporting. Major's game gets further out of sight at each status check, even before the Americans begin to play a part. Last post was to 1000BC.
Status (repeated).
pop.: 16(230k); Cities: 10; techs: 7; gold: 133; Gov.: Mon; wonders: -; TR: 0D/0F
units: 4 settler, 9 warrior, 5 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 horse, 1 chariot, 2 vans.
Goals: MPE (coming in ~6 turns), HG, overseas settlements and a trade route or two.
(Major is cities 13, techs 9 at this point.)
975- disorder Konigsberg.
950-
925- disc MM -> Pot.
900- First trireme completed.
875- Leipzig completes MPE. The others are at war.
Germans: That's us. 10 cities, 8 techs -> Pot.
Chinese(4): Unco-op. 3 cities, 4 techs, incl Pot. -> CB.
Greeks(5): Unco-op, peace. 4 cities, 4 techs, incl HBR, Mas, WC. -> BW.
Emissary Chinese - peace, give Tra to get Pot. Give MM, CB, CoL get map. They are near!
Hut: HBR. Hut: WC. I note I could have gotten both of these from the AI.
Start on Writing.
850- Chinese ignore our request for tribute.
Greeks develop BW, and capture Chinese Shanghai, taking MM.
825- Give Greeks(still 5) Alp, Pot, Cur, CoL, to get map.
Change mind about where send boat and it sets off back towards the continent off Berlin.
800- Found Bremen.
775- Hut: AT Stuttgart (51,33) - 12th city. HG will come in the nick of time.
750- disorder Nuremberg. Leipzig builds HG.
150g from Greeks. Chinese ignore us.
725-
700- Hut: Nomads.
675-
650- disc Wri -> Mys.
625-
600-
575- Nuremberg builds Colossus. Found Bonn. Hut: Iron.
550- Found Salzburg (continent #1).
525- Give Iron to Greeks, get 150g. Give Wri to Chinese, get 50g.
500- Van, Nuremberg- Salzurg. Hides(und), for 28g.
Status.
pop.: 32(560k); Cities: 14; techs: 13; gold: 443; Gov.: Mon;
wonders: MPE, HG, Colossus;
TR: 1D/0F
units: 5 settler, 15 warrior, 7 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 horse, 1 chariot, 2 trireme, 4 vans.
Goals: Better trade.
Germans: That's us. 14 cities, 13 techs. -> Mys.
Chinese(4): Enthusiastic, peace. 2 cities, 9 techs. -> Mas.
Greeks(5): Neutral, peace. 6 cities, 11 techs, incl Mas. -> Constr.
Invest some of that money.
475- Market Berlin.
450- Market Nuremberg. Inc lux to 50% mean several cities now celebrating.
Barb landing by Berlin.
425- Archer kills barb legion. Work starts on city site island 6.
Hut(nr Salzburg): Legion.
Emissary from Chinese, offers 50g to fight Greeks - no.
400- disc Mys -> Lit.
Barbs help Chinese vs Greeks.
375-
350-
325- Market Konigsberg.
Van, Konigsberg - Nuremberg, Silver, for 50g.
Barb archer kills fortified phalanx in Stuttgart (pop decrease.)
300- Found Dortmund (on continent #6).
275-
250- 100g from Greeks. Give Mon to Chinese, get 100g.
225- Found Brandenburg (on continent #7).
200- Van, Bremen - Salzburg, Beads, for 48g.
175- disc Lit -> Phil. Courthouse Nuremberg.
150- Van, Leipzig - Beijing(Chinese), Gems, for 126g.
125- Van, Berlin - Cologne, Beads, for 40g.
100- Give Mon to Greeks. They are not very grateful.
75- disorder Brandenburg. disc Phil (in Konigsberg) -> Poly -> Mono.
Frankfurt builds LH. Give Phil to Chinese.
50- Van, Heidelburg - Shanghai (Greek), Hides, for 68g.
Van, Frankfurt - Shanghai(Greek), Hides, for 52g.
25- Van, Munich - Berlin, Hides (because we can, and both are celebbing), for 36g.
Van, Nuremberg - Dortmund, Hides, for 148g.
1AD- disc Mono -> Rep. Library Nuremberg.
Van, Konigsberg - Frankfurt, Salt, for 32g.
Van, Frankfurt - Dortmund, Hides, for 60g.
Status.
pop.: 48(1.03m); Cities: 16; techs: 18; gold: 589; cost: 8; Gov.: Mon;
wonders: MPE, HG, Colossus, LH;
TR: 8D/3F
units: 6 settler, 17 warrior, 9 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 legion, 2 horse, 1 chariot, 4 trireme, 6 vans.
Goals: Mike's, Democracy, build up Nuremberg as SSC.
Germans: That's us. 16 cities, 18 techs -> Rep.
Chinese(4): Enthusiastic, peace. 2 cities, 11 techs -> Mas.
Greeks(5): Neutral, peace. 7 cities, 12 techs, incl Mas. -> Constr.
Jokemaster's Germans were cities 29, techs 18, although my nominal population is more.
Major_Advantage's Germans were cities 24, techs 21.
That didn't happen here, I got behind the other games reporting. Major's game gets further out of sight at each status check, even before the Americans begin to play a part. Last post was to 1000BC.
Status (repeated).
pop.: 16(230k); Cities: 10; techs: 7; gold: 133; Gov.: Mon; wonders: -; TR: 0D/0F
units: 4 settler, 9 warrior, 5 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 horse, 1 chariot, 2 vans.
Goals: MPE (coming in ~6 turns), HG, overseas settlements and a trade route or two.
(Major is cities 13, techs 9 at this point.)
975- disorder Konigsberg.
950-
925- disc MM -> Pot.
900- First trireme completed.
875- Leipzig completes MPE. The others are at war.
Germans: That's us. 10 cities, 8 techs -> Pot.
Chinese(4): Unco-op. 3 cities, 4 techs, incl Pot. -> CB.
Greeks(5): Unco-op, peace. 4 cities, 4 techs, incl HBR, Mas, WC. -> BW.
Emissary Chinese - peace, give Tra to get Pot. Give MM, CB, CoL get map. They are near!
Hut: HBR. Hut: WC. I note I could have gotten both of these from the AI.
Start on Writing.
850- Chinese ignore our request for tribute.
Greeks develop BW, and capture Chinese Shanghai, taking MM.
825- Give Greeks(still 5) Alp, Pot, Cur, CoL, to get map.
Change mind about where send boat and it sets off back towards the continent off Berlin.
800- Found Bremen.
775- Hut: AT Stuttgart (51,33) - 12th city. HG will come in the nick of time.
750- disorder Nuremberg. Leipzig builds HG.
150g from Greeks. Chinese ignore us.
725-
700- Hut: Nomads.
675-
650- disc Wri -> Mys.
625-
600-
575- Nuremberg builds Colossus. Found Bonn. Hut: Iron.
550- Found Salzburg (continent #1).
525- Give Iron to Greeks, get 150g. Give Wri to Chinese, get 50g.
500- Van, Nuremberg- Salzurg. Hides(und), for 28g.
Status.
pop.: 32(560k); Cities: 14; techs: 13; gold: 443; Gov.: Mon;
wonders: MPE, HG, Colossus;
TR: 1D/0F
units: 5 settler, 15 warrior, 7 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 horse, 1 chariot, 2 trireme, 4 vans.
Goals: Better trade.
Germans: That's us. 14 cities, 13 techs. -> Mys.
Chinese(4): Enthusiastic, peace. 2 cities, 9 techs. -> Mas.
Greeks(5): Neutral, peace. 6 cities, 11 techs, incl Mas. -> Constr.
Invest some of that money.
475- Market Berlin.
450- Market Nuremberg. Inc lux to 50% mean several cities now celebrating.
Barb landing by Berlin.
425- Archer kills barb legion. Work starts on city site island 6.
Hut(nr Salzburg): Legion.
Emissary from Chinese, offers 50g to fight Greeks - no.
400- disc Mys -> Lit.
Barbs help Chinese vs Greeks.
375-
350-
325- Market Konigsberg.
Van, Konigsberg - Nuremberg, Silver, for 50g.
Barb archer kills fortified phalanx in Stuttgart (pop decrease.)
300- Found Dortmund (on continent #6).
275-
250- 100g from Greeks. Give Mon to Chinese, get 100g.
225- Found Brandenburg (on continent #7).
200- Van, Bremen - Salzburg, Beads, for 48g.
175- disc Lit -> Phil. Courthouse Nuremberg.
150- Van, Leipzig - Beijing(Chinese), Gems, for 126g.
125- Van, Berlin - Cologne, Beads, for 40g.
100- Give Mon to Greeks. They are not very grateful.
75- disorder Brandenburg. disc Phil (in Konigsberg) -> Poly -> Mono.
Frankfurt builds LH. Give Phil to Chinese.
50- Van, Heidelburg - Shanghai (Greek), Hides, for 68g.
Van, Frankfurt - Shanghai(Greek), Hides, for 52g.
25- Van, Munich - Berlin, Hides (because we can, and both are celebbing), for 36g.
Van, Nuremberg - Dortmund, Hides, for 148g.
1AD- disc Mono -> Rep. Library Nuremberg.
Van, Konigsberg - Frankfurt, Salt, for 32g.
Van, Frankfurt - Dortmund, Hides, for 60g.
Status.
pop.: 48(1.03m); Cities: 16; techs: 18; gold: 589; cost: 8; Gov.: Mon;
wonders: MPE, HG, Colossus, LH;
TR: 8D/3F
units: 6 settler, 17 warrior, 9 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 legion, 2 horse, 1 chariot, 4 trireme, 6 vans.
Goals: Mike's, Democracy, build up Nuremberg as SSC.
Germans: That's us. 16 cities, 18 techs -> Rep.
Chinese(4): Enthusiastic, peace. 2 cities, 11 techs -> Mas.
Greeks(5): Neutral, peace. 7 cities, 12 techs, incl Mas. -> Constr.
Jokemaster's Germans were cities 29, techs 18, although my nominal population is more.
Major_Advantage's Germans were cities 24, techs 21.
Somewhat similar to Jokemaster's game, and not like Major_Advantage's.
20- Greeks ignore threats.
40-
60- Next OEDO 140. Give Lit to Chinese, get 25g.
80-
100- Hut: AT Heligoland(landmass #12).
120-
140- disc Rep -> Sea. Revolution. disorder Heidelburg. Become Republic.
Van, Munich - Shanghai(Greek), Hides, for 80g.
Van, Nuremberg - Leipzig, Silver, for 70g.
Greeks develop Construction. Sneak attack by Greeks - van lost.
160- Frankfurt builds Michaelangelo Chapel.
Greeks get Phil, Trade from Chinese, for Construction, Iron.
180- Swap Rep to Chinese for Construction.
200- Found Vienna.
220- Found Stymie.
240- Reduce lux to 20%, pop has got to 83.
Nuremberg, Frankfurt = 8. Berlin, Heidelburg = 7. Munich, Salzburg = 6.
Van, Nuremberg - Salzburg, Dye, for 216g.
260- Hut (3 sq from Vienna): Barbs - 5 horse - yuck.
Van lost nr Vienna to barbs. Van (on mtn) holds off Greek horse.
280- disc Sea -> Wheel.
Van, Salzburg - Bonn, Gems, for 222g.
Greeks start Pyramids.
300- disorder Hannover (will force lux to 30% for a bit.)
Van, Leipzig - Nuremberg, Silk, for 126g.
Van, Cologne - Heligoland, Hides, for 104g.
Chinese become a republic.
320-
Chinese get HBR from Greeks, for Rep.
340- Nuremberg Aqueduct. Berlin Library. Found Doppler.
360- disc Wheel -> Engineering.
Ceasefire and peace with Greeks.
380- Nuremberg Colosseum.
400- Found Osterley. Hut(adjacent): Legion.
Greeks nearly done Pyramids.
420-
Athens builds Pyramids.
440- Nuremberg = size 12.
Chinese develop Masonry, too late for us. Greeks become Republic.
460- Hut: Legion(Vienna).
480-
500- disc Engineering -> Medicine. Hut(nr Doppler): Banking.
Status.
pop.: 105(3.81m); Cities: 21; techs: 24; gold: 228; cost: 28; Gov.: Rep;
wonders: MPE, HG, Colossus, LH, Mike's; Greeks have Pyramids.
TR: 22D/4F (counting in cities.)
units: 6 settler, 17 warrior, 9 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 legion, 2 horse, 1 chariot, 4 trireme, 6 vans.
Goals: Democracy, build up Nuremberg as SSC.
Germans: That's us. 21 cities, 24 techs.
Chinese(4): Enthusiastic, peace. 3 cities, 17 techs incl Mas. -> Poly.
Greeks(5): Unco-op, peace. 7 cities, 16 techs, incl Mas. -> Feu.
20- Greeks ignore threats.
40-
60- Next OEDO 140. Give Lit to Chinese, get 25g.
80-
100- Hut: AT Heligoland(landmass #12).
120-
140- disc Rep -> Sea. Revolution. disorder Heidelburg. Become Republic.
Van, Munich - Shanghai(Greek), Hides, for 80g.
Van, Nuremberg - Leipzig, Silver, for 70g.
Greeks develop Construction. Sneak attack by Greeks - van lost.
160- Frankfurt builds Michaelangelo Chapel.
Greeks get Phil, Trade from Chinese, for Construction, Iron.
180- Swap Rep to Chinese for Construction.
200- Found Vienna.
220- Found Stymie.
240- Reduce lux to 20%, pop has got to 83.
Nuremberg, Frankfurt = 8. Berlin, Heidelburg = 7. Munich, Salzburg = 6.
Van, Nuremberg - Salzburg, Dye, for 216g.
260- Hut (3 sq from Vienna): Barbs - 5 horse - yuck.
Van lost nr Vienna to barbs. Van (on mtn) holds off Greek horse.
280- disc Sea -> Wheel.
Van, Salzburg - Bonn, Gems, for 222g.
Greeks start Pyramids.
300- disorder Hannover (will force lux to 30% for a bit.)
Van, Leipzig - Nuremberg, Silk, for 126g.
Van, Cologne - Heligoland, Hides, for 104g.
Chinese become a republic.
320-
Chinese get HBR from Greeks, for Rep.
340- Nuremberg Aqueduct. Berlin Library. Found Doppler.
360- disc Wheel -> Engineering.
Ceasefire and peace with Greeks.
380- Nuremberg Colosseum.
400- Found Osterley. Hut(adjacent): Legion.
Greeks nearly done Pyramids.
420-
Athens builds Pyramids.
440- Nuremberg = size 12.
Chinese develop Masonry, too late for us. Greeks become Republic.
460- Hut: Legion(Vienna).
480-
500- disc Engineering -> Medicine. Hut(nr Doppler): Banking.
Status.
pop.: 105(3.81m); Cities: 21; techs: 24; gold: 228; cost: 28; Gov.: Rep;
wonders: MPE, HG, Colossus, LH, Mike's; Greeks have Pyramids.
TR: 22D/4F (counting in cities.)
units: 6 settler, 17 warrior, 9 phalanx, 1 archer, 1 legion, 2 horse, 1 chariot, 4 trireme, 6 vans.
Goals: Democracy, build up Nuremberg as SSC.
Germans: That's us. 21 cities, 24 techs.
Chinese(4): Enthusiastic, peace. 3 cities, 17 techs incl Mas. -> Poly.
Greeks(5): Unco-op, peace. 7 cities, 16 techs, incl Mas. -> Feu.
Major Advantage
Prince
Maybe my game was good after all, did not feel like that when I was playing, but having read your logs... It felt good about trade and tech progress, but rather bad concerning expansion. I still think I could have done better, there was a lot to expand to...
So, opening the next round of logs (and presenting my new signature, we just won in a historic landslide victory over Spain!). Nice was having bypassed the "dry years" between railroad and corporation completely. Not nice was not getting demo in an odeo year, which didn't seem possible and demo was kind of pressing.
Stats at 500AD:
pop.: 7.51M; Cities: 32; techs: 35; gold: 2714; Gov.: Rep; wonders: HG, MPE, Colossus, Michelangelo, Pyr, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton, KRC; TR: 3D/17F
units: 13 settler, 7 warrior, 7 phalanx, 3 Archer, 1 Legion, 3 horse, 1 chariot, 2 Crusader, 9 boats, 2 dip, 29 vans
Goals: Leonardo, Magnetism, Demo; Bach; probably Darwin to speed up Corporation
(Chariot lost to barbs in southern America)
(Barb Legions near Salzburg)
540 Invention->(another miscalculation, physics is blocked)Gunpowder; Landshut, Eisenhüttenstad founded; 2*576
560 Gunp.->Expl. (there is a lot of work to do for engineers, to be followed by phys.->magn.); Leonardo built (now my shipchain has to move south awway from the north pole; Deliv. 149; sign alliance with America (so that we can easily build roads in their territory)
580 Pisa founded (completes channel into lake#4; 318, 260
600 230, 600
620 Physics->Magnetism(Not sure how to proceed next between demo and feud/theo, vans are standing by for Bach, group 2 will be blocked next); 252, 616
660 Just realized how large island 6 is...need to settle there
680 Mag->Steam(plan: RR next, pick up feud. while researching, Ind+corp from Darwin)
(Americans steal Gravity - so what)
700 Port America founded (right in the middle of Washington, New York, Boston); Args! While setting up my shipchain a barb fregate appears from the fog; 234, 300
(Fregate sinks a ship in the chain)
720 Steam->Railroad; 305, 88, 834
(Barbs disembark onto island 6...)
740 Subvert Rostock 2*135, get 48 and Feudalism, sell barracks for 40
760 Railroad->Ind.->Corporation->Democracy; 624 (this was the last of Königsberg's hides vans), 21; Magdeburg founded; Maybe I should have thought more about losing HG with Railroad...need 40% Lux now
(Greeks Sun Tzu)
780 246, 148, 92, 282
(Greeks sneak attack, kill an engineer)
800 Demo->Genetic; Greeks blocking buffalo causes engineer to dissolve; Kill 2 greek units; Passau founded; Bribe Peking for 348 (64);
(Greeks demand 300g for peace?! What? Hell no!)
820 Kill 2 greek archers outside Peking; 58, 306, 282
(Greeks develop chivalry)
840 Genetic->Theology; Cure built; Delay deliveries until next turn; Revolution
860 Become Demo; kill greek elephant; 128, 360, 438, 264, 420, 126; Barb musceteers north of Washington, only defended by warrior...and they are demanding gold, don't want to lose them...
880 Theo->Metallurgy; Bach cathedral built; Barb musceteer bribed for 61, leader 100; 126, 130, 888, 74, 146, 128, 94; sign peace with Greeks, we will subvertt another city when the time is right for chivalry
900 Metall->Refining; 347, 165, 300, 128, 58
(Americans steal Metallurgy)
920 Update american map, ask for gift, get none; 22, 244
940 Ref.->Electricity; 482, 58, 472, 468, 178, 240; rush a cannon to protect american Philapdelphia
960 Electr.->Combustion; Porto, Sydneu, Dublin founded; 65, 272, 357, 190, commodity shift in Königsberg, had some vans to deliver there, 247; Raise science to 90% to ensure tech; looks like Greeks are planning another attack
(No attack from Greeks)
980 Comb.->Steel; 2 barbs killed with cannon, 1 musceteer bribed for 61; 152, 300, 1032, 300, 92, 190
1000 Steel->Conscr.; Wien founded; 292
Stats at 1000AD:
pop.: 15.76M; Cities: 44; techs: 53; gold: 9991; Gov.: Dem; wonders: HG, MPE, Colossus, Michelangelo, Pyr, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton, KRC, Leonardo, Bach, Darwin, Cure; TR: 23D/43F
units: 23 engineer, 31 musc, 3 horse, 2 Crusader, 2 cannon, 9 boats, 7 dip, 12 vans
Goals: more expansion, Superhighways, refrigeration, then another round of celebrations
So, opening the next round of logs (and presenting my new signature, we just won in a historic landslide victory over Spain!). Nice was having bypassed the "dry years" between railroad and corporation completely. Not nice was not getting demo in an odeo year, which didn't seem possible and demo was kind of pressing.
Stats at 500AD:
pop.: 7.51M; Cities: 32; techs: 35; gold: 2714; Gov.: Rep; wonders: HG, MPE, Colossus, Michelangelo, Pyr, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton, KRC; TR: 3D/17F
units: 13 settler, 7 warrior, 7 phalanx, 3 Archer, 1 Legion, 3 horse, 1 chariot, 2 Crusader, 9 boats, 2 dip, 29 vans
Goals: Leonardo, Magnetism, Demo; Bach; probably Darwin to speed up Corporation
(Chariot lost to barbs in southern America)
(Barb Legions near Salzburg)
540 Invention->(another miscalculation, physics is blocked)Gunpowder; Landshut, Eisenhüttenstad founded; 2*576
560 Gunp.->Expl. (there is a lot of work to do for engineers, to be followed by phys.->magn.); Leonardo built (now my shipchain has to move south awway from the north pole; Deliv. 149; sign alliance with America (so that we can easily build roads in their territory)
580 Pisa founded (completes channel into lake#4; 318, 260
600 230, 600
620 Physics->Magnetism(Not sure how to proceed next between demo and feud/theo, vans are standing by for Bach, group 2 will be blocked next); 252, 616
660 Just realized how large island 6 is...need to settle there
680 Mag->Steam(plan: RR next, pick up feud. while researching, Ind+corp from Darwin)
(Americans steal Gravity - so what)
700 Port America founded (right in the middle of Washington, New York, Boston); Args! While setting up my shipchain a barb fregate appears from the fog; 234, 300
(Fregate sinks a ship in the chain)
720 Steam->Railroad; 305, 88, 834
(Barbs disembark onto island 6...)
740 Subvert Rostock 2*135, get 48 and Feudalism, sell barracks for 40
760 Railroad->Ind.->Corporation->Democracy; 624 (this was the last of Königsberg's hides vans), 21; Magdeburg founded; Maybe I should have thought more about losing HG with Railroad...need 40% Lux now
(Greeks Sun Tzu)
780 246, 148, 92, 282
(Greeks sneak attack, kill an engineer)
800 Demo->Genetic; Greeks blocking buffalo causes engineer to dissolve; Kill 2 greek units; Passau founded; Bribe Peking for 348 (64);
(Greeks demand 300g for peace?! What? Hell no!)
820 Kill 2 greek archers outside Peking; 58, 306, 282
(Greeks develop chivalry)
840 Genetic->Theology; Cure built; Delay deliveries until next turn; Revolution
860 Become Demo; kill greek elephant; 128, 360, 438, 264, 420, 126; Barb musceteers north of Washington, only defended by warrior...and they are demanding gold, don't want to lose them...
880 Theo->Metallurgy; Bach cathedral built; Barb musceteer bribed for 61, leader 100; 126, 130, 888, 74, 146, 128, 94; sign peace with Greeks, we will subvertt another city when the time is right for chivalry
900 Metall->Refining; 347, 165, 300, 128, 58
(Americans steal Metallurgy)
920 Update american map, ask for gift, get none; 22, 244
940 Ref.->Electricity; 482, 58, 472, 468, 178, 240; rush a cannon to protect american Philapdelphia
960 Electr.->Combustion; Porto, Sydneu, Dublin founded; 65, 272, 357, 190, commodity shift in Königsberg, had some vans to deliver there, 247; Raise science to 90% to ensure tech; looks like Greeks are planning another attack
(No attack from Greeks)
980 Comb.->Steel; 2 barbs killed with cannon, 1 musceteer bribed for 61; 152, 300, 1032, 300, 92, 190
1000 Steel->Conscr.; Wien founded; 292
Stats at 1000AD:
pop.: 15.76M; Cities: 44; techs: 53; gold: 9991; Gov.: Dem; wonders: HG, MPE, Colossus, Michelangelo, Pyr, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Newton, KRC, Leonardo, Bach, Darwin, Cure; TR: 23D/43F
units: 23 engineer, 31 musc, 3 horse, 2 Crusader, 2 cannon, 9 boats, 7 dip, 12 vans
Goals: more expansion, Superhighways, refrigeration, then another round of celebrations
I just finished playing GOTM173. With the size of the map and the lack of a key civ, I decided to go for conquest and hope for good luck on the respawns. I will post more info (and logs) later, but I had a couple of strange situations that I wonder if anyone else has seen before.
In my game Beijing was conquered by Barbarians in 2350 BC (In the top 5 cities in RED). I finished off the Chinese 275 BC. The Persians respawned on Continent 2. I had just gotten a nomad on Continent 2, so I was able to build a city nearby. I killed the first iteration of Persians in 175 BC. The Persians respawned again. Since I had MPE, I immediately contacted them and exchanged maps (after tech gifts). I could see a stack of units at 17,35,2. I could only see the 'city-sized' radius around the units. But when I clicked 'end-of-turn', I saw the units in 17,35,2 move, but I also saw something move in the black space to the northwest of the city. I contacted the Persians on the next turn and got their map again. There was a stack of units (topped by a settler) to the NW of Persepolis (which was founded at 17,35,2). When I finished the game I reloaded the save game from 175 BC and used the cheat mode to see the entire map. The Persians actually got 2 settlers and a phalanx in 17,35,2. But they also got 2 additional settlers at 12,30,2.
I conquered the Greeks in 150BC. The English respawned at 88,72,5. This was quite a few squares away from the Greek cities that now belonged to me, so the army had a long hike. I finally destroyed London (and the English) in 180 AD. The Greeks respawned. Again, I immediately contacted the Greeks and traded maps. I could see a stack of units at 8,58,2. But when I moved a diplomat that was close to the former location of London, there was a Greek settler at 91,71,5. This was even more strange.
So, has anyone else ever seen respawns that spanned different locations and even different continents?
In my game Beijing was conquered by Barbarians in 2350 BC (In the top 5 cities in RED). I finished off the Chinese 275 BC. The Persians respawned on Continent 2. I had just gotten a nomad on Continent 2, so I was able to build a city nearby. I killed the first iteration of Persians in 175 BC. The Persians respawned again. Since I had MPE, I immediately contacted them and exchanged maps (after tech gifts). I could see a stack of units at 17,35,2. I could only see the 'city-sized' radius around the units. But when I clicked 'end-of-turn', I saw the units in 17,35,2 move, but I also saw something move in the black space to the northwest of the city. I contacted the Persians on the next turn and got their map again. There was a stack of units (topped by a settler) to the NW of Persepolis (which was founded at 17,35,2). When I finished the game I reloaded the save game from 175 BC and used the cheat mode to see the entire map. The Persians actually got 2 settlers and a phalanx in 17,35,2. But they also got 2 additional settlers at 12,30,2.
I conquered the Greeks in 150BC. The English respawned at 88,72,5. This was quite a few squares away from the Greek cities that now belonged to me, so the army had a long hike. I finally destroyed London (and the English) in 180 AD. The Greeks respawned. Again, I immediately contacted the Greeks and traded maps. I could see a stack of units at 8,58,2. But when I moved a diplomat that was close to the former location of London, there was a Greek settler at 91,71,5. This was even more strange.
So, has anyone else ever seen respawns that spanned different locations and even different continents?
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520 AD: Hut: Mercenaries. Heidelbourg II built. Nuremberg II built.
Interturn: Barbs show up near undefended colony. 50g.
540 AD: Nothing of note.
560 AD: Sell Temple as I accidentaly overspend (barbs at the gates!). Cologne II built.
580 AD: Barbs take Hambourg II despite having enough cash to offer tribute. Well, that didn’t work… maybe the formula changes with the amount of cities you have?!? Weird. Will stop celebrating next turn, core just hit size 8. Share maps with Americans: They are on continent 5… Seems like a delayed EC to me. Hanovre II built.
600 AD: T3L4S3. Celebrations over, but lots of unrest still makes for an inflated LUX%
640 AD: Don’t think I can delay JS Bach’s much, if at all. Colonies are having troubles keeping the peace. The sad thing about blue civs is it’s really hard to see on the world map which areas you’ve populated, since the blue rectangles blend in unfortunately well with the map. Konigsberg size 10, the city has so much trade it’s still going. But no food left.
660 AD; Astronomy > Feudalism. Note to self: Heidelbourg supplies Dye, which Konigsberg requests. Critical path is already done, so get on it. Techrate 7 turns.
680 AD: Brême II built. Hut: Legion.
Interturn: Greeks take Barb city of Hambourg II.
700 AD: Stuttgart II built.
740 AD: Heidelbourg silk (d) to Konigsberg: 96g. Hut: Iron Working.
760 AD: Konigsberg library, starts Cope’s. 150s left. Bonn II built.
780 AD: Feudalism > Theology.
820 AD: Nothing is happening in this game. Can’t trade bc no offshore partners, can’t expand because geographical constraints… Munich gold (d) to offshore Frankfurt: 258g. Ok, not bad! Only 11 squares away as well.
840 AD: Theo next turn: I’ll switch to JS Bach after making sure that I have 2 more vans ready. Salzbourg III built.
Interturn: Greeks develop Feudalism, start Sun Tzu’s.
860 AD: Theology > Banking. JS Bach will be done in 2 turns. I'll delay Cope's and I don't care.
880 AD: 2 vans in Konigsberg: Bach’s next turn. Dortmund II built.
900 AD: Konigsberg JS Bach’s. Starts Cope’s again. T4L3S3. Brandenbourg II built. Running out of hospitable build sites quickly in landmass 2! But the home continent was a lot bigger than expected. I was so wrong…
920 AD: Naples II built. Issos II built. Leipzig silk (d) to Nuremberg: 324g.
940 AD: Banking > Bridge Building.
960 AD: Van for 30g.
980 AD: Greeks declare war: I promptly steal The Wheel. I may or may not have goaded them in declaring war just so I could use up the waiting diplomat nearby.
STATUS AT 1000 AD:
Cities: 57 Pop: 13,460,000 Techs: 29 (currently researching Bridge Building) Government: Republic Gold: 222
WoWs: HG, Pyramids, MPE, Colossus, Mikes, JSB. Building Copes in SSC.
Foreign Officer:
War and Embassies with Greeks.
Americans just respawned: no contact yet.
I should have built that stagepoint city near Athens with my nomad… game’s gonna get quite long in game time. Fortunately not in IRL years since no van spam. But I’m really behind from my usual expansion pace bc no foreign trade partners, and I’m pretty sure that the CfCers are gonna figure another way around. Maybe I should have built Colossus in Frankfurt to get the offshore bonus over there and just dump vans… holy, I’m dumb. So far, SSC not really taking off since limited funds, so not really worth it. Been spending a lot on infrastructure like temples and ports.
Postgame edit: Might have overprioritized city building after my poor start expansion-wise. Really behind on wonder-building.
Interturn: Barbs show up near undefended colony. 50g.
540 AD: Nothing of note.
560 AD: Sell Temple as I accidentaly overspend (barbs at the gates!). Cologne II built.
580 AD: Barbs take Hambourg II despite having enough cash to offer tribute. Well, that didn’t work… maybe the formula changes with the amount of cities you have?!? Weird. Will stop celebrating next turn, core just hit size 8. Share maps with Americans: They are on continent 5… Seems like a delayed EC to me. Hanovre II built.
600 AD: T3L4S3. Celebrations over, but lots of unrest still makes for an inflated LUX%
640 AD: Don’t think I can delay JS Bach’s much, if at all. Colonies are having troubles keeping the peace. The sad thing about blue civs is it’s really hard to see on the world map which areas you’ve populated, since the blue rectangles blend in unfortunately well with the map. Konigsberg size 10, the city has so much trade it’s still going. But no food left.
660 AD; Astronomy > Feudalism. Note to self: Heidelbourg supplies Dye, which Konigsberg requests. Critical path is already done, so get on it. Techrate 7 turns.
680 AD: Brême II built. Hut: Legion.
Interturn: Greeks take Barb city of Hambourg II.
700 AD: Stuttgart II built.
740 AD: Heidelbourg silk (d) to Konigsberg: 96g. Hut: Iron Working.
760 AD: Konigsberg library, starts Cope’s. 150s left. Bonn II built.
780 AD: Feudalism > Theology.
820 AD: Nothing is happening in this game. Can’t trade bc no offshore partners, can’t expand because geographical constraints… Munich gold (d) to offshore Frankfurt: 258g. Ok, not bad! Only 11 squares away as well.
840 AD: Theo next turn: I’ll switch to JS Bach after making sure that I have 2 more vans ready. Salzbourg III built.
Interturn: Greeks develop Feudalism, start Sun Tzu’s.
860 AD: Theology > Banking. JS Bach will be done in 2 turns. I'll delay Cope's and I don't care.
880 AD: 2 vans in Konigsberg: Bach’s next turn. Dortmund II built.
900 AD: Konigsberg JS Bach’s. Starts Cope’s again. T4L3S3. Brandenbourg II built. Running out of hospitable build sites quickly in landmass 2! But the home continent was a lot bigger than expected. I was so wrong…
920 AD: Naples II built. Issos II built. Leipzig silk (d) to Nuremberg: 324g.
940 AD: Banking > Bridge Building.
960 AD: Van for 30g.
980 AD: Greeks declare war: I promptly steal The Wheel. I may or may not have goaded them in declaring war just so I could use up the waiting diplomat nearby.
STATUS AT 1000 AD:
Cities: 57 Pop: 13,460,000 Techs: 29 (currently researching Bridge Building) Government: Republic Gold: 222
WoWs: HG, Pyramids, MPE, Colossus, Mikes, JSB. Building Copes in SSC.
Foreign Officer:
War and Embassies with Greeks.
Americans just respawned: no contact yet.
I should have built that stagepoint city near Athens with my nomad… game’s gonna get quite long in game time. Fortunately not in IRL years since no van spam. But I’m really behind from my usual expansion pace bc no foreign trade partners, and I’m pretty sure that the CfCers are gonna figure another way around. Maybe I should have built Colossus in Frankfurt to get the offshore bonus over there and just dump vans… holy, I’m dumb. So far, SSC not really taking off since limited funds, so not really worth it. Been spending a lot on infrastructure like temples and ports.
Postgame edit: Might have overprioritized city building after my poor start expansion-wise. Really behind on wonder-building.
My hut luck was very good in this game.
1) Archer (NON)
2) HBR
3) Archer (supported)
4) Nomads
5) Nomads
6) Advanced Tribe (Frankfurt)
7) Advanced Tribe (Heidelburg)
8) 1 Barb Horse
Happiness was a major concern with this game. When Munich was founded as the 6th city in 2700 BC, the worker started out unhappy.
Seed could be 6, 22 or 54, Either way 75,19 is a 4 special, headed there for first city
-4000 Move settlers, See hut at 72,14, Seed is either 22 or 54
-3950 Hut -> Archer, 75,19 is a Jungle, so I won't build there
-3900 Berlin founded at 75,17, Building road at 72,14, will build second city at 73,14
-3850 start Alphabet (10), See Buffalo at 72,18, seed is 22
-3750 Leipzig founded at 73,14
-3700 Alphabet -> Code of Laws (22)
-3450 Hut -> HBR (36)
-3350 Berlin is size 2
-3300 Hut -> Archer (Leip) send it back to Leipzig
-3250 CoL -> Ceremonial Burial (48), Hut -> Nomads
-3200 RB Leipzig 4sh
-3150 Hamburg founded 66,20,5, Hut -> Nomads
-3100 Disband Leipzig Warrior
-3000 Konigsberg founded at 78,34, Hut (at 65,29) -> Advanced Tribe -> Frankfurt
stats at -3000:
pop.: .09; cities: 5; techs: 3, gov: Despotism, gold: 33; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 3 Warriors, 2 Archer
wonders: None
Chinese: No Contact
Greeks: No Contact
-2950 Berlin builds Settler
-2800 Leipzig Settler, CB -> Monarchy (60)
-2700 Munich founded (citizen is unhappy)
-2650 RB Munich 9sh
-2600 100K
-2450 Monarchy -> Bronze Working (84), RB Munich 1sh, Hut at 51,33 -> Advanced Tribe -> Heidelburg
-2400 Berlin Settler
-2250 Hut (45,31) 1 Barb Horse
-2200 Warrior is killed by Horse, BW -> Currency (105)
-2350 Beijing now shows barbarian in top 5 cities
-2050 Barb horse kills 2nd warrior, Konigsberg Settler, Hamburg Settler, Hut -> 50g, RB Heidelburg 4sh
-2000 Munich Settler, Leipzig Settler
stats at -2000:
pop.: .17; cities: 7; techs: 6, gov: Monarchy, gold: 190; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 6 Settlers, 9 Warriors, 2 Archer
wonders: None
Chinese: No Contact
Greeks: No Contact
-1950 kill barb horse
-1900 Frankfurt Settler, Berlin Settler, RB Heidelburg 6sh, Nuremberg founded at 71,23 (citizen is unhappy)
-1850 Currency -> Trade (120), 200K, Cologne founded at 86,34, RB Nuremberg 9sh
-1750 RB Frankfurt 1sh
-1700 Hannover founded at 84,24, RB Heidelburg 1sh+10sh
-1600 Hut -> Map Making (144)
-1550 Chinese appear near Frankfurt, Peace, give MM+Mon+Curr, exchange maps, Barbs trireme near Berlin/Leipzig, Munich Settler, Konigsberg Settlers
-1500 Barb Archer lands near Berlin, Trade -> Mysticism (170), Hamburg Settler, Kill barb Archer
-1450 Bremen founded at 64,22, RB Konigsberg 2sh, Leipzig 8sh
-1400 Leipzig builds Trireme
-1350 Berlin Food, RB Leipzig 7sh, Frankfurt 1sh, Hannover 6sh
-1300 300K, RB Cologne 1sh, Munich 2sh, Nuremberg 6sh
-1250 Stuttgart founded at 76,8,1 (first off-shore city)
-1200 Barbs land near Cologne, Mysticism -> Writing (187), RB Stuttgart 9sh, Hut -> 1 barb Legion
-1150 Barb Legion kills horse, kill 2 barb units near Cologne, RB Leipzig 1sh, Hannover 1sh
-1100 RB Berlin 1sh
-1050 400K, RB Frankfurt 5sh, Berlin 6sh
stats at -1000:
pop.: .47; cities: 13; techs: 10, gov: Monarchy, gold: 259; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 6 Settlers, 23 Warriors, 1 Phalanx, 2 Archer, 2 Horsemen, 1 Trireme, 1 Caravan
wonders: None
Chinese: No Embassy
Greeks: No Contact
1) Archer (NON)
2) HBR
3) Archer (supported)
4) Nomads
5) Nomads
6) Advanced Tribe (Frankfurt)
7) Advanced Tribe (Heidelburg)
8) 1 Barb Horse
Happiness was a major concern with this game. When Munich was founded as the 6th city in 2700 BC, the worker started out unhappy.
Seed could be 6, 22 or 54, Either way 75,19 is a 4 special, headed there for first city
-4000 Move settlers, See hut at 72,14, Seed is either 22 or 54
-3950 Hut -> Archer, 75,19 is a Jungle, so I won't build there
-3900 Berlin founded at 75,17, Building road at 72,14, will build second city at 73,14
-3850 start Alphabet (10), See Buffalo at 72,18, seed is 22
-3750 Leipzig founded at 73,14
-3700 Alphabet -> Code of Laws (22)
-3450 Hut -> HBR (36)
-3350 Berlin is size 2
-3300 Hut -> Archer (Leip) send it back to Leipzig
-3250 CoL -> Ceremonial Burial (48), Hut -> Nomads
-3200 RB Leipzig 4sh
-3150 Hamburg founded 66,20,5, Hut -> Nomads
-3100 Disband Leipzig Warrior
-3000 Konigsberg founded at 78,34, Hut (at 65,29) -> Advanced Tribe -> Frankfurt
stats at -3000:
pop.: .09; cities: 5; techs: 3, gov: Despotism, gold: 33; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 3 Warriors, 2 Archer
wonders: None
Chinese: No Contact
Greeks: No Contact
-2950 Berlin builds Settler
-2800 Leipzig Settler, CB -> Monarchy (60)
-2700 Munich founded (citizen is unhappy)
-2650 RB Munich 9sh
-2600 100K
-2450 Monarchy -> Bronze Working (84), RB Munich 1sh, Hut at 51,33 -> Advanced Tribe -> Heidelburg
-2400 Berlin Settler
-2250 Hut (45,31) 1 Barb Horse
-2200 Warrior is killed by Horse, BW -> Currency (105)
-2350 Beijing now shows barbarian in top 5 cities
-2050 Barb horse kills 2nd warrior, Konigsberg Settler, Hamburg Settler, Hut -> 50g, RB Heidelburg 4sh
-2000 Munich Settler, Leipzig Settler
stats at -2000:
pop.: .17; cities: 7; techs: 6, gov: Monarchy, gold: 190; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 6 Settlers, 9 Warriors, 2 Archer
wonders: None
Chinese: No Contact
Greeks: No Contact
-1950 kill barb horse
-1900 Frankfurt Settler, Berlin Settler, RB Heidelburg 6sh, Nuremberg founded at 71,23 (citizen is unhappy)
-1850 Currency -> Trade (120), 200K, Cologne founded at 86,34, RB Nuremberg 9sh
-1750 RB Frankfurt 1sh
-1700 Hannover founded at 84,24, RB Heidelburg 1sh+10sh
-1600 Hut -> Map Making (144)
-1550 Chinese appear near Frankfurt, Peace, give MM+Mon+Curr, exchange maps, Barbs trireme near Berlin/Leipzig, Munich Settler, Konigsberg Settlers
-1500 Barb Archer lands near Berlin, Trade -> Mysticism (170), Hamburg Settler, Kill barb Archer
-1450 Bremen founded at 64,22, RB Konigsberg 2sh, Leipzig 8sh
-1400 Leipzig builds Trireme
-1350 Berlin Food, RB Leipzig 7sh, Frankfurt 1sh, Hannover 6sh
-1300 300K, RB Cologne 1sh, Munich 2sh, Nuremberg 6sh
-1250 Stuttgart founded at 76,8,1 (first off-shore city)
-1200 Barbs land near Cologne, Mysticism -> Writing (187), RB Stuttgart 9sh, Hut -> 1 barb Legion
-1150 Barb Legion kills horse, kill 2 barb units near Cologne, RB Leipzig 1sh, Hannover 1sh
-1100 RB Berlin 1sh
-1050 400K, RB Frankfurt 5sh, Berlin 6sh
stats at -1000:
pop.: .47; cities: 13; techs: 10, gov: Monarchy, gold: 259; trade routes: 0D0F; cost/turn:0
units: 6 Settlers, 23 Warriors, 1 Phalanx, 2 Archer, 2 Horsemen, 1 Trireme, 1 Caravan
wonders: None
Chinese: No Embassy
Greeks: No Contact
I started playing last night. I had decided apriori that I am playing OCC, mainly to catch up with the flow of the games.
I did map analysis and black clicking which made me realize that the nearby forest is on the coast and 3 specials. I was so much in hurry that I did not even notice the 4 special site nearby which most others headed for. In retrospect, of course, that was a good thing since it turns out it was on jungle.
The first hut was tipped before founding Berlin and the outcome was an archer. Horseman would have been better but I was happy to get a none unit and dreaded getting a tech. Hut luck was mediocre overall. No barbs, decent money, decent units, but two out of path techs (horseback riding and mysticism) early on (techs 2 and 4) which not only delayed Monarchy till -825 but more importantly delayed Trade so late that my place holder wonder (Oracle) for Marco had to be changed to Hanging Gardens at the last moment. By the time I discovered pottery and built the Hanging Gardens in -300 I had 305 shields in my production box. I soon realized that Marco was not really needed here due to there being only 2 rivals on the same land mass as ours but nevertheless 105 wasted shields is a lot particularly in an OCC game.
There are quite a few times during any OCC game when you have nothing useful to build (due to lack of prerequisite techs). The standard thing to do in those situations is to build vans, which you can never have too many of in an OCC game. But with Trade delayed till -25 I had to make unusual choices. Just look at what I have built by year +1: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls, Colossus, Hanging Gardens. Exactly half of these (Granary, City walls, and Hanging Gardens) are extremely rare in OCC games.
I did map analysis and black clicking which made me realize that the nearby forest is on the coast and 3 specials. I was so much in hurry that I did not even notice the 4 special site nearby which most others headed for. In retrospect, of course, that was a good thing since it turns out it was on jungle.
The first hut was tipped before founding Berlin and the outcome was an archer. Horseman would have been better but I was happy to get a none unit and dreaded getting a tech. Hut luck was mediocre overall. No barbs, decent money, decent units, but two out of path techs (horseback riding and mysticism) early on (techs 2 and 4) which not only delayed Monarchy till -825 but more importantly delayed Trade so late that my place holder wonder (Oracle) for Marco had to be changed to Hanging Gardens at the last moment. By the time I discovered pottery and built the Hanging Gardens in -300 I had 305 shields in my production box. I soon realized that Marco was not really needed here due to there being only 2 rivals on the same land mass as ours but nevertheless 105 wasted shields is a lot particularly in an OCC game.
There are quite a few times during any OCC game when you have nothing useful to build (due to lack of prerequisite techs). The standard thing to do in those situations is to build vans, which you can never have too many of in an OCC game. But with Trade delayed till -25 I had to make unusual choices. Just look at what I have built by year +1: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls, Colossus, Hanging Gardens. Exactly half of these (Granary, City walls, and Hanging Gardens) are extremely rare in OCC games.
Map analysis indicates that the forest is on the coast and 3 special. Resource seed is 6 or 22 or 54.
Date Notes
-4000 Playing OCC. Both settlers move towards the forest.
-3950 Chinese are in. Archer from hut.
-3900 Berlin founded.
-3850 -> Bronze. Resource seed is 22 and the third special is buffalo.
-3700 25g from hut.
-3500 Bronze -> Burial. So far only Chinese and Greeks are in.
-3300 Size 1 settler built. Empty hut.
-3100 Berlin builds Phalanx and goes to size 2. Horseback riding from hut.
-3050 Supported settler joins Berlin making it size 3.
Status at -3000
City Size: 3 Government: Despotism Gold: 35 Techs: 2 Trade routes: 0
Structures:
Wonders:
Units: 1 None settler, 1 warrior, 1 phalanx, 1 None Archer
Goals: Monarchy, Trade, Colossus, Marco
Chinese: no contact
Greek: no contact
-2850 Horseman produced. Colossus started.
-2800 Burial -> Alphabet. 50g from hut.
-2700 Empty hut.
-2500 Mysticism from hut.
-2050 Alphabet -> Code of Laws.
Status at -2000
City Size: 3 Government: Despotism Gold: 128 Techs: 5 Trade routes: 0
Structures:
Wonders:
Units: 1 None settler, 1 warrior, 1 phalanx, 1 None Archer
Goals: Monarchy, Trade, Colossus, Marco
Chinese: no contact
Greek: no contact
-1950 Berlin is size 4.
-1500 Colossus built. Temple started to kill time. Could start another wonder but I may not get Trade in time.
-1400 Supported archer from hut. This is bad. I was hoping for a useful tech like Laws, currency, or writing.
-1300 T0L5S5
-1250 Berlin celebrates. Temple built. T0L4S6
-1200 Code of Laws -> Monarchy.
Status at -1000
City Size: 4 Government: Despotism Gold: 157 Techs: 6 Trade routes: 0
Structures: Temple
Wonders: Colossus
Units: 1 None settler, 1 warrior, 1 phalanx, 2 Archers (1 None), 1 horseman
Goals: Monarchy, Trade, Marco
Chinese: no contact
Greek: no contact
-0950 T4L0S6
-0925 Berlin is size 5
-0825 Monarchy -> Currency. Monarchy established.
-0700 None Archer from hut. Horseman is near Beijing.
-0650 Horseman runs into Beijing. Peace -> Chinese (6) -> 100g. They do not want to exchange techs because of Pyramids. My power is Strong.
-0625 Exploring warrior disbanded due to support cost.
-0575 Currency -> Pottery. Trade is not an option and I already have 200 shields into a wonder (Oracle).
Status at -0500
City Size: 5 Government: Monarchy Gold: 343 Techs: 8 Trade routes: 0
Structures: Temple
Wonders: Colossus
Units: 1 None settler, 1 phalanx, 3 Archers (2 None), 1 horseman
Goals: Monarchy, Trade, Marco
Chinese: no embassy, 3+ cities
Greek: no contact
-0400 Berlin is size 6. Shield output reduced to narrowly escape Oracle and get Hanging Gardens with over 300 shields instead.
-0325 Pottery -> Trade.
-0300 Hanging Gardens built with 305 shields. Berlin celebrates.
-0225 Marketplace built. Horseman reaches Sparta. Ceremonial Burial, Mysticism, Pottery, Monarchy, Code of Laws -> Greek (6) -> peace, Construction, Map making, Math, Masonry. Chinese are not interested in knowledge exchange likely because they have nothing to offer.
-0150 Granary built. This is one unusual OCC.
-0050 25g from hut.
-0025 Chinese discover Trade just ahead of me. Construction, map making -> Chinese (5) -> Trade, maps. City walls built. I can finally start building Caravans instead of junk.
+0001 -> Writing. T2L1S7
Status at +0001
City Size: 6 Government: Monarchy Gold: 269 Techs: 14 Trade routes: 0
Structures: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls
Wonders: Colossus, Hanging Gardens
Units: 1 None settler, 1 phalanx, 3 Archers (2 None), 1 horseman
Goals: Library, Copernicus, growth to size 12
Chinese: no embassy, 4 cities; war with Greeks
Greek: no embassy, 2+ cities; war with Chinese
Date Notes
-4000 Playing OCC. Both settlers move towards the forest.
-3950 Chinese are in. Archer from hut.
-3900 Berlin founded.
-3850 -> Bronze. Resource seed is 22 and the third special is buffalo.
-3700 25g from hut.
-3500 Bronze -> Burial. So far only Chinese and Greeks are in.
-3300 Size 1 settler built. Empty hut.
-3100 Berlin builds Phalanx and goes to size 2. Horseback riding from hut.
-3050 Supported settler joins Berlin making it size 3.
Status at -3000
City Size: 3 Government: Despotism Gold: 35 Techs: 2 Trade routes: 0
Structures:
Wonders:
Units: 1 None settler, 1 warrior, 1 phalanx, 1 None Archer
Goals: Monarchy, Trade, Colossus, Marco
Chinese: no contact
Greek: no contact
-2850 Horseman produced. Colossus started.
-2800 Burial -> Alphabet. 50g from hut.
-2700 Empty hut.
-2500 Mysticism from hut.
-2050 Alphabet -> Code of Laws.
Status at -2000
City Size: 3 Government: Despotism Gold: 128 Techs: 5 Trade routes: 0
Structures:
Wonders:
Units: 1 None settler, 1 warrior, 1 phalanx, 1 None Archer
Goals: Monarchy, Trade, Colossus, Marco
Chinese: no contact
Greek: no contact
-1950 Berlin is size 4.
-1500 Colossus built. Temple started to kill time. Could start another wonder but I may not get Trade in time.
-1400 Supported archer from hut. This is bad. I was hoping for a useful tech like Laws, currency, or writing.
-1300 T0L5S5
-1250 Berlin celebrates. Temple built. T0L4S6
-1200 Code of Laws -> Monarchy.
Status at -1000
City Size: 4 Government: Despotism Gold: 157 Techs: 6 Trade routes: 0
Structures: Temple
Wonders: Colossus
Units: 1 None settler, 1 warrior, 1 phalanx, 2 Archers (1 None), 1 horseman
Goals: Monarchy, Trade, Marco
Chinese: no contact
Greek: no contact
-0950 T4L0S6
-0925 Berlin is size 5
-0825 Monarchy -> Currency. Monarchy established.
-0700 None Archer from hut. Horseman is near Beijing.
-0650 Horseman runs into Beijing. Peace -> Chinese (6) -> 100g. They do not want to exchange techs because of Pyramids. My power is Strong.
-0625 Exploring warrior disbanded due to support cost.
-0575 Currency -> Pottery. Trade is not an option and I already have 200 shields into a wonder (Oracle).
Status at -0500
City Size: 5 Government: Monarchy Gold: 343 Techs: 8 Trade routes: 0
Structures: Temple
Wonders: Colossus
Units: 1 None settler, 1 phalanx, 3 Archers (2 None), 1 horseman
Goals: Monarchy, Trade, Marco
Chinese: no embassy, 3+ cities
Greek: no contact
-0400 Berlin is size 6. Shield output reduced to narrowly escape Oracle and get Hanging Gardens with over 300 shields instead.
-0325 Pottery -> Trade.
-0300 Hanging Gardens built with 305 shields. Berlin celebrates.
-0225 Marketplace built. Horseman reaches Sparta. Ceremonial Burial, Mysticism, Pottery, Monarchy, Code of Laws -> Greek (6) -> peace, Construction, Map making, Math, Masonry. Chinese are not interested in knowledge exchange likely because they have nothing to offer.
-0150 Granary built. This is one unusual OCC.
-0050 25g from hut.
-0025 Chinese discover Trade just ahead of me. Construction, map making -> Chinese (5) -> Trade, maps. City walls built. I can finally start building Caravans instead of junk.
+0001 -> Writing. T2L1S7
Status at +0001
City Size: 6 Government: Monarchy Gold: 269 Techs: 14 Trade routes: 0
Structures: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls
Wonders: Colossus, Hanging Gardens
Units: 1 None settler, 1 phalanx, 3 Archers (2 None), 1 horseman
Goals: Library, Copernicus, growth to size 12
Chinese: no embassy, 4 cities; war with Greeks
Greek: no embassy, 2+ cities; war with Chinese
+0020 Chinese build Pyramids. Barbarian archer lands near Berlin.
+0040 Writing -> Seafaring. First caravan built and sent towards rivals.
+0060 Barbarians pillage irrigation.
+0080 Barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin. Barbarian horsemen appear near Berlin and one gets next to my working settler. Second caravan produced and sent towards rivals. Barbarian leader for 100g. 50g from hut.
+0100 Barbarian horseman kills Phalanx sent to distract the horseman from the settler. Archer kills the barbarian and turns vet.
+0120 The world is full of barbarians. T0L3S7
+0140 Berlin celebrates. T1L2S7
+0160 Berlin is size 8
+0180 Library built.
+0200 Seafaring from hut. T0L3S7
+0220 -> Literacy. Third van built and sent towards rivals. Chinese -> 100g. Greeks demand 250g and declare war.
+0280 Literacy -> Republic. Harbor built. If it was not for the barbarian pillaging, the settler would have been done.
+0340 Aqueduct built.
+0360 Warrior built. Berlin is size 9.
+0420 Greek chariot kills my caravan on mountain top. Food van built.
+0460 Republic -> Philosophy. Republic -> Greek -> 0g. Chinese -> 0g. Republic established. T3L4S3
+0480 Food van built. Warrior disbanded.
+0500 Archer survives barbarian horseman. Berlin is size 10. T4L3S3
Status at +0500
City Size: 10 Government: Republic Gold: 11 Techs: 18 Trade routes: 0
Structures: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls, Library, Aqueduct, Harbor
Wonders: Colossus, Hanging Gardens
Units: 1 None settler, 3 Archers (2 None), 1 horseman, 4 vans
Goals: Copernicus, growth to size 12, trade routes
Chinese: no embassy, 3+ cities; Pyramids; war with Greeks
Greek: no embassy, 3+ cities; war with Chinese
+0540 Barbarian archer lands near Berlin which is now size 11. Food van produced.
+0560 Barbarian archer pillages irrigation. Berlin is size 12. T6L2S2
+0580 Barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin. Barbarian leader for 100g.
+0600 Food van produced. Undemanded Cloth to Chinese Canton for 156. T2L2S6
+0620 Food van produced.
+0640 Food van produced. Philosophy -> Astronomy -> University.
+0680 Greeks build Lighthouse.
+0720 Copernicus built.
+0740 Food van built. Silk to Athens for 336 (capped).
+0760 University -> Banking. Diplomat built.
+0780 Diplomat built.
+0860 Banking -> Economics.
+0880 Berlin's food box overflows.
+0900 Once again Barbarians land near Berlin. Good thing I built city walls. University built. 25g from hut.
+0920 Barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin. Food van produced. Barbarian leader for 100g.
+0940 Greeks demand university and declare war. Economics -> Medicine. Food van produced. Greek horseman killed.
+0960 Food van produced. Beads to Greek Nanking for 412 establishes the third trade route.
+0980 Medicine -> Theory of Gravity. Food van produced. Navigation from hut.
+1000 Food van produced. Chinese embassy established.
Status at +1000
City Size: 12 Government: Republic Gold: 116 Techs: 25 Trade routes: 3
Structures: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls, Library, Aqueduct, Harbor, University
Wonders: Colossus, Hanging Gardens, Copernicus
Units: 1 idle None settler, 3 Archers (2 None), 1 horseman, 1 diplomat, 6 vans
Goals: Sanitation, Shakespeare, Newton, growth to maximum size
Chinese: 5 cities, 21 techs; Pyramids
Greek: no embassy, 4+ cities; Lighthouse
+1020 Food van produced.
+1040 Greeks build King Richard. Food van produced.
+1060 Greek catapult runs into my diplomat. Navigation, University -> Greek (6) -> peace, receptive, but no tech exchange.
+1080 Theory of Gravity -> Physics. T4L2S4. Greeks demand Theory of Gravity and declare war. Chinese keep refusing to ally or share maps despite gifts.
+1100 Chinese build Marco.
+1120 Greeks kill my diplomat. Newton built.
+1140 Berlin's food box overflows for the second time.
+1160 Diplomat produced.
+1180 Physics -> Atomic Theory. Greeks not interested in peace. Greek caravan killed.
+1200 Diplomat produced. T3L2S5
+1260 Atomic Theory -> Chemistry. Bank built. Economics -> Chinese -> maps. T6L2S2
+1300 Chinese acquire Engineering from Greeks. Physics -> Chinese -> Engineering. Wandering barbarian leader killed by horseman for 100g. T2L2S6
+1320 Greeks lose a unit attacking my mountain top archer.
+1340 Greek catapult kills my mountain top archer. Barbarian archers land near Berlin.
+1360 One barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin and the other one pillages irrigation. Chemistry -> Sanitation. Stock Exchange built. T1L2S7
+1380 Barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin. Barbarian leader for 100g.
+1420 Sanitation -> Invention. T8L1S1
+1460 Sewer built.
+1480 Food van produced. Berlin is size 13. T2L1S7
+1500 Food van produced.
Status at +1500
City Size: 13 Government: Republic Gold: 159 Techs: 31 Trade routes: 3
Structures: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls, Library, Aqueduct, Harbor, University, Bank, Stock Exchange, Sewer
Wonders: Colossus, Hanging Gardens, Copernicus, Newton
Units: 1 idle None settler, 2 None Archers, 1 horseman, 2 diplomats, 3 vans
Goals: Shakespeare, Refrigeration, growth to maximum size
Chinese: 6 cities, 27 techs; Pyramids, Marco
Greek: no embassy, 4+ cities; Lighthouse, King Richard; war with me
+0040 Writing -> Seafaring. First caravan built and sent towards rivals.
+0060 Barbarians pillage irrigation.
+0080 Barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin. Barbarian horsemen appear near Berlin and one gets next to my working settler. Second caravan produced and sent towards rivals. Barbarian leader for 100g. 50g from hut.
+0100 Barbarian horseman kills Phalanx sent to distract the horseman from the settler. Archer kills the barbarian and turns vet.
+0120 The world is full of barbarians. T0L3S7
+0140 Berlin celebrates. T1L2S7
+0160 Berlin is size 8
+0180 Library built.
+0200 Seafaring from hut. T0L3S7
+0220 -> Literacy. Third van built and sent towards rivals. Chinese -> 100g. Greeks demand 250g and declare war.
+0280 Literacy -> Republic. Harbor built. If it was not for the barbarian pillaging, the settler would have been done.
+0340 Aqueduct built.
+0360 Warrior built. Berlin is size 9.
+0420 Greek chariot kills my caravan on mountain top. Food van built.
+0460 Republic -> Philosophy. Republic -> Greek -> 0g. Chinese -> 0g. Republic established. T3L4S3
+0480 Food van built. Warrior disbanded.
+0500 Archer survives barbarian horseman. Berlin is size 10. T4L3S3
Status at +0500
City Size: 10 Government: Republic Gold: 11 Techs: 18 Trade routes: 0
Structures: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls, Library, Aqueduct, Harbor
Wonders: Colossus, Hanging Gardens
Units: 1 None settler, 3 Archers (2 None), 1 horseman, 4 vans
Goals: Copernicus, growth to size 12, trade routes
Chinese: no embassy, 3+ cities; Pyramids; war with Greeks
Greek: no embassy, 3+ cities; war with Chinese
+0540 Barbarian archer lands near Berlin which is now size 11. Food van produced.
+0560 Barbarian archer pillages irrigation. Berlin is size 12. T6L2S2
+0580 Barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin. Barbarian leader for 100g.
+0600 Food van produced. Undemanded Cloth to Chinese Canton for 156. T2L2S6
+0620 Food van produced.
+0640 Food van produced. Philosophy -> Astronomy -> University.
+0680 Greeks build Lighthouse.
+0720 Copernicus built.
+0740 Food van built. Silk to Athens for 336 (capped).
+0760 University -> Banking. Diplomat built.
+0780 Diplomat built.
+0860 Banking -> Economics.
+0880 Berlin's food box overflows.
+0900 Once again Barbarians land near Berlin. Good thing I built city walls. University built. 25g from hut.
+0920 Barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin. Food van produced. Barbarian leader for 100g.
+0940 Greeks demand university and declare war. Economics -> Medicine. Food van produced. Greek horseman killed.
+0960 Food van produced. Beads to Greek Nanking for 412 establishes the third trade route.
+0980 Medicine -> Theory of Gravity. Food van produced. Navigation from hut.
+1000 Food van produced. Chinese embassy established.
Status at +1000
City Size: 12 Government: Republic Gold: 116 Techs: 25 Trade routes: 3
Structures: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls, Library, Aqueduct, Harbor, University
Wonders: Colossus, Hanging Gardens, Copernicus
Units: 1 idle None settler, 3 Archers (2 None), 1 horseman, 1 diplomat, 6 vans
Goals: Sanitation, Shakespeare, Newton, growth to maximum size
Chinese: 5 cities, 21 techs; Pyramids
Greek: no embassy, 4+ cities; Lighthouse
+1020 Food van produced.
+1040 Greeks build King Richard. Food van produced.
+1060 Greek catapult runs into my diplomat. Navigation, University -> Greek (6) -> peace, receptive, but no tech exchange.
+1080 Theory of Gravity -> Physics. T4L2S4. Greeks demand Theory of Gravity and declare war. Chinese keep refusing to ally or share maps despite gifts.
+1100 Chinese build Marco.
+1120 Greeks kill my diplomat. Newton built.
+1140 Berlin's food box overflows for the second time.
+1160 Diplomat produced.
+1180 Physics -> Atomic Theory. Greeks not interested in peace. Greek caravan killed.
+1200 Diplomat produced. T3L2S5
+1260 Atomic Theory -> Chemistry. Bank built. Economics -> Chinese -> maps. T6L2S2
+1300 Chinese acquire Engineering from Greeks. Physics -> Chinese -> Engineering. Wandering barbarian leader killed by horseman for 100g. T2L2S6
+1320 Greeks lose a unit attacking my mountain top archer.
+1340 Greek catapult kills my mountain top archer. Barbarian archers land near Berlin.
+1360 One barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin and the other one pillages irrigation. Chemistry -> Sanitation. Stock Exchange built. T1L2S7
+1380 Barbarian archer dies in attack on Berlin. Barbarian leader for 100g.
+1420 Sanitation -> Invention. T8L1S1
+1460 Sewer built.
+1480 Food van produced. Berlin is size 13. T2L1S7
+1500 Food van produced.
Status at +1500
City Size: 13 Government: Republic Gold: 159 Techs: 31 Trade routes: 3
Structures: Temple, Granary, Marketplace, City walls, Library, Aqueduct, Harbor, University, Bank, Stock Exchange, Sewer
Wonders: Colossus, Hanging Gardens, Copernicus, Newton
Units: 1 idle None settler, 2 None Archers, 1 horseman, 2 diplomats, 3 vans
Goals: Shakespeare, Refrigeration, growth to maximum size
Chinese: 6 cities, 27 techs; Pyramids, Marco
Greek: no embassy, 4+ cities; Lighthouse, King Richard; war with me
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