NEW PATCH - December 19

apocalypse105 · Dec 19, 2011

glider1 said:
At a guess I'd say there is probably 50-100 small logical bugs in the AI right now. A slab of those we could legitimately request that they be fixed free of charge. However as for a really decent improvement in the quality of the AI, I think we Civfanatics should start to adjust our thinking towards having to pay for that in real cash as a substantial upgrade. This is because we bought Civ5 knowing it was going to be 1UPT and we knew that it was probably too difficult at the time to write a decent AI for 1UPT, so we knew what we were buying. To write a quality 1UPT AI is going to take some serious computer science, which means a really highly paid programmer on the Firaxis team, and we the gamers will have to pay for their wages.

Cheers

Diplomacy shouldn't be that hard to fix they just have to use other civlization games and look at the code especially civ 4. Why does it take so long?

Agree with the 1 unit per tile no AI has been good at this I played a lot of turn based strategy games with 1 unit per tile and the AI is terrible at it.

Edit : sorry for dubble post I wanted to change my original post but apperently I posted it.

Broken Hawk · Dec 19, 2011

I'm new to this Steam/CiV thing, so...

How do I know if my copy has been updated? Nothing obvious happened when I logged in. There is a set of numbers at the bottom of the main screen, 1.0.1.511

Is there a clock on the UI that I'm missing?

Thanks.

Louis XXIV · Dec 19, 2011

apocalypse105 said:
the reason why he says that civ 5 is dead that this patch took 4 months
and it didn't change the diplomacy and AI for single player

I don't see how that equals dead, though. Words have meaning.

Buccaneer · Dec 19, 2011

Camikaze said:
I wouldn't be getting too upset because a patch was released that didn't cover certain aspects. It's better than no patch. If they were obliged to add in single player changes before they release multiplayer fixes, the patch would presumably be delayed even longer, with multiplayer still experiencing those problems in the meantime. Okay, this doesn't affect the game much for me, but it doesn't have any sort of negative impact either. So what's there to be upset about?

Because it's CFC General Discussion, what else do you expect?

Really, there are a lot of games (including 2K) that are not patched a few months after release and here we are 15 months and they are still working on improving the game. Too many here believe in their own unrealistic expectations or their own self-worth to appreciate efforts of any kind.

Menzies · Dec 19, 2011

Well, Civ V is either nearing the end of its patch cycle, or their announcing an expansion in February/March...

CanuckSoldier · Dec 19, 2011

I'm not sure why people are disappointed. 2K delivered exactly what they said they would, a MP stability patch. They never said mods or WB maps would work, let alone anything at all to do with SP AI diplomacy.

For me I hope the patch does what it says it does. And we MPers can finally have larger more stable games.

CS

BandC · Dec 19, 2011

As a SP player, it's a bit of an underwhelming patch to be honest, yes. To be fair, they said it was gonna be about multiplayer mostly so I am happy MP players got some love too. I hope the next patch can improve SP more.

nokmirt · Dec 19, 2011

What a joke. Thats all they could come up with, you gotta be kidding.

Alweth · Dec 20, 2011

How long has Civ 5 been out now? And they're still just fixing very basic bugs? Where are the features that should have been in the game when it shipped? Like the ability to play mods in multiplayer.

I am a multiplayer player, and I would have been happy about this patch, if it had come out 6 months ago, when it should have.

Where is multiplayer mod support?

Pouakai · Dec 20, 2011

Guys. You've been whining about the lack of attention MP gets, and now that it actually gets something, you're still annoyed? It doesn't matter if it came out too late, the main thing is that it came out. So be happy and keep the rants to the rant topic, yeah?

ense7en · Dec 20, 2011

Nothing really for single player other than the sorting for saves, which is actually a nice time-saving feature.

Sounds like some exploits were taken care of for MP, but i've only played MP with friends so i don't know much about issues with that.

Mesix · Dec 20, 2011

anandus said:
At least they fixed the Korean exploit

But great news.
Not as comprehensive a patch as I'd have hoped for, but still.

What exactly was the Korean exploit?

Gilgamesch · Dec 20, 2011

Mesix said:
What exactly was the Korean exploit?

I think it was the techrush. Very overpowered, each time you build a new science building or wonder in your capital, you get a huge science boost. Sometimes its was game breaking for me.

comatosedragon · Dec 20, 2011

Gilgamesch said:
I think it was the techrush. Very overpowered, each time you build a new science building or wonder in your capital, you get a huge science boost. Sometimes its was game breaking for me.

This is the very definition of the UA. How is it OP? And what has it been changed to?

Montov · Dec 20, 2011

Wasn't the bug that you could seel the building, then rebuilding it for a tech boost and so on?

Anyway, de [UI] change is small but really great. Less bugs and more stability is good, but yeah, disappointing. MP without sequential turns is no fun. At least my current game won't be affected by this patch.

nokmirt · Dec 20, 2011

Pouakai said:
Guys. You've been whining about the lack of attention MP gets, and now that it actually gets something, you're still annoyed? It doesn't matter if it came out too late, the main thing is that it came out. So be happy and keep the rants to the rant topic, yeah?

Well I feel bad for those multiplayer guys. They ask for a real patch and get a partial fix. It is the same old thing, they fix everything in tiny baby steps. Why be happy with a lump of coal in your stocking. Firaxis should have gave all of us something useful. LOL!!!

Rub'Rum · Dec 20, 2011

Pouakai said:
Guys. You've been whining about the lack of attention MP gets, and now that it actually gets something, you're still annoyed? It doesn't matter if it came out too late, the main thing is that it came out. So be happy and keep the rants to the rant topic, yeah?

Their fixes on the MP was the bare minimum expectations without which the patch would have been plain insulting. And that's what we get. The bare minimum. Yay I'm so happy.

ense7en said:
Nothing really for single player other than the sorting for saves, which is actually a nice time-saving feature.

You're pretty nice to tag this as a "feature"? I call this correcting a major oversight.

Bandobras Took · Dec 20, 2011

Rub'Rum said:
Their fixes on the MP was the bare minimum expectations without which the patch would have been plain insulting. And that's what we get. The bare minimum. Yay I'm so happy.

The bare minimum of your expectations. I honestly expected nothing more than this, not nothing less.

Why?

Because multiplayer stability is far more complex to fix and test than scripting the AI to not declare on you when certain parameters are met.

You're pretty nice to tag this as a "feature"? I call this correcting a major oversight.

Because moving the mouse a few pixels down was causing emotional damage? :crazyeye:

apocalypse105 · Dec 20, 2011

Bandobras Took said:
The bare minimum of your expectations. I honestly expected nothing more than this, not nothing less.

Why?

Because multiplayer stability is far more complex to fix and test than scripting the AI to not declare on you when certain parameters are met.
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Then Why didn't they fix diplomacy allready? Thinx they don't have the resource to do it.. If you say it is so easy.

Rub'Rum · Dec 20, 2011

Bandobras Took said:
The bare minimum of your expectations. I honestly expected nothing more than this, not nothing less.

Why?

Because multiplayer stability is far more complex to fix and test than scripting the AI to not declare on you when certain parameters are met.

Because moving the mouse a few pixels down was causing emotional damage?

I wish my bosses were like you.

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