Valkrionn
The Hamster King
I would have to agree on that one... It's always bothered me. 
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WarKirby
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I hated the great wall in vanilla civ, because it would quickly become outdated as your borders grew, and new towns wouldn't be visibly protected.
Recalculating it each turn would be very good. Or even just every 5 turns if it's too much cpu time.
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[to_xp]Gekko
QCT junkie
recalculating when your borders expand, if possible, would be great indeed 
lordrune
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The Jotun Hill giants are a bit weird. They start out with hidden nationality - guess this is okay - but I couldn't use them to capture Clan cities (because the Clan are 'barbarian'?) and I couldn't load them onto my Giant Tortoises either.
Other than that - Jotuns look pretty good. Not sure about the spawn rate of citizens, it seems a little high atm. Jotuns may need the economy tweaked down, just marginally.
Other than that - Jotuns look pretty good. Not sure about the spawn rate of citizens, it seems a little high atm. Jotuns may need the economy tweaked down, just marginally.
WarKirby
Arty person
The hill giants are bugged. Aparently they have hidden nationality hardcoded in their unit properties, in addition to having the promotion. removing the promotion, therefore does not actually remove HN. And they still have it, just not visible.
A fix is already done and will probably be in the next patch.
I posted a bit about the citizen spawning in the jotnar balance thread. Generally they get too few citizens to start with, and too many as you go on. needs to be spread more evenly.
A fix is already done and will probably be in the next patch.
I posted a bit about the citizen spawning in the jotnar balance thread. Generally they get too few citizens to start with, and too many as you go on. needs to be spread more evenly.
lordrune
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I just read your posts now - I think your solution will work if it can be implemented, and I definitely agree with you it needs evening out.
Good to hear a fix for the HG issue is on the way
Vermicious Knid
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They also have "no defensive bonus" hard-coded; I tried to play with it and had no success.
ZeroZeroSix
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The Skald cant make force node and then its impossible to build the tower of alteration.
WarKirby
Arty person
There's a "jotnar balance discussion thread" please don't resurrect this one.
black_imperator
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currently they are disable in Ashes of Erebus, we're gonna get back to make them working (and remotely balanced which is the main issue the various modders have had over the years with them ^^) at some point.
As for whether choosing Fall Further or Ashes of Erebus, it's up to you, but AoE is still in development while Fall Further isn't.
As for whether choosing Fall Further or Ashes of Erebus, it's up to you, but AoE is still in development while Fall Further isn't.
black_imperator
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don't worry, "balance" doesn't have to mean something ugly will happen to them. I know there's been serious issues with them, but i haven't played them in a while, so nothing will be decided before we get a good idea of where they're at ^^
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