Lord of the Rings Civ Pack Part 1: Rohan

The Little One · Jan 1, 2012

ForzaFiori said:
For the hobbits, are you sure you wanna do the dunedain? They were men of Gondorian stock, not hobbits, and patrolled the area's just outside the hobbits borders, not actually inside them.

Granted, I don't know what they'd be replaced by, but I feel like the hobbits should be a civ that is made to avoid war as much as possible (as they were in the books), so a cheep military unit (like the hobbitry in arms) is useful, but maybe an uber worker would work instead, since the hobbits are so in-tune with the earth, if you will. Or a UI similar to terrence farms, that gives bonuses since the hobbits were such good farmers. It just seems weird for a civilization so anti-war to have a unit that was made for it.

yeah, I'm aware of the nationality problem, but they were specifically guardians of the shire and I don't really have any other choices. I can always change it later if someone thinks of something else. I think that maybe another building would be better. For all the civs I just want at least 1 unique unit and then the other two uniques can be anything. What kind of worker or improvement did you have in mind??

chrin67 · Jan 1, 2012

perhaps an enhanced scout for the hobbits (e.g. + 1MP ) since, according to the book, hobbits were very skilled at moving without being spotted by other beings (like the elves)
but I've no name for the UU

The Little One · Jan 1, 2012

chrin67 said:
perhaps an enhanced scout for the hobbits (e.g. + 1MP ) since, according to the book, hobbits were very skilled at moving without being spotted by other beings (like the elves)
but I've no name for the UU

The Dunedain Ranger will ignore terrain cost like a scout, but have the power of the longswordsman. but maybe a scout would be good, I just can't think of anything

chrin67 · Jan 1, 2012

as you know, Dunedain were men, it is not ok for a shire UU, tmo.

Other ideas perhaps:

- unique trait: all scouts have +1 MP

- enhanced archers: hobbits were very skilled with bows and arrows so you could define as UU for ex. the Buckland's archer (having automatically some promotions )

The Little One · Jan 1, 2012

chrin67 said:
as you know, Dunedain were men, it is not ok for a shire UU, tmo.

Other ideas perhaps:

- unique trait: all scouts have +1 MP

- enhanced archers: hobbits were very skilled with bows and arrows so you could define as UU for ex. the Buckland's archer (having automatically some promotions )

Trolls are neither orcs nor men, but does that stop them being ok for a mordor UU?

Nevermind, I know it isn't ideal, and originally I had the idea for something like a special archer, probably one that ignores terrain cost (because of the hobbits' skill to move around any kind of terrain unnoticed) and is cheaper but slightly weaker. how about that?

malcolm01234 · Jan 1, 2012

Sure hobbits were able to move around unnoticed, but they are more of a settled down people overall. I do agree with the enchanced worker though, or mabye a Unique Improvement that is a farm that is meant for hills (more food?). Dunedain Rangers pretty much WERE their military, so it makes since that they would be their military in the game too. And instead of changing the Dunedain Rangers, I think it'd be more realistic to change the hobbitry at arms.

The Little One · Jan 2, 2012

I don't know!

The farm on hills sounds too much like the terrace farm in my opinion. I'm just going to trust you and chrin67 and anyyone else to think of something good then tell me so that I can focus on starting Mordor and the Dwarves

chrin67 · Jan 4, 2012

to mitigate the "problem" you may call the UU only Rangers and be very vague in the unit description, not saying that they were men (or Dunedain). So very few people will notice the discrepancy.
And after all, it's your mod, you do what you want regardless of Tolkien

note: in the book the hobbits did not even know that there were Rangers protecting them! (except the members of the fellowship and Bilbo)

The Little One · Jan 4, 2012

chrin67 said:
to mitigate the "problem" you may call the UU only Rangers and be very vague in the unit description, not saying that they were men (or Dunedain). So very few people will notice the discrepancy.
And after all, it's your mod, you do what you want regardless of Tolkien

note: in the book the hobbits did not even know that there were Rangers protecting them! (except the members of the fellowship and Bilbo)

That's the point, there WERE rangers protecting them and those rangers were dunedain. There's no need for me to cover it up...

The Little One · Jan 4, 2012

What about colours for the civs? The red and yellow is good for Mordor and the Yellow and green works for the shire, but what about the Dwarves? I would say black and white but Isengard's taken that

malcolm01234 · Jan 4, 2012

Something ore colored like gold, silver, black, or something like that. I kinda do like the dwarves color becuz its like gold and mithril (cuz mithril is white, technically silverish white though)

The Little One · Jan 5, 2012

malcolm01234 said:
Something ore colored like gold, silver, black, or something like that. I kinda do like the dwarves color becuz its like gold and mithril (cuz mithril is white, technically silverish white though)

okay, you're in charge of making their colour. Can you call it 'PLAYERCOLOR_DWARF'?

malcolm01234 · Jan 5, 2012

do want a new color or the one semprini made the icon?

The Little One · Jan 6, 2012

malcolm01234 said:
do want a new color or the one semprini made the icon?

I think a new color (since he's redoing the icon anyway), probably with lots of silver or grey or black

malcolm01234 · Jan 6, 2012

I had two things in mind
- An ice colored blue with a marble colored background
- Silver with very light gray

The Little One · Jan 7, 2012

malcolm01234 said:
I had two things in mind
- An ice colored blue with a marble colored background
- Silver with very light gray

I was thinking maybe a darkish grey background with ice blue for the icon

malcolm01234 · Jan 7, 2012

Alright sounds good!

The Little One · Jan 10, 2012

Oh by the way, this mod has entered that slight lull just after a release where it looks like I've stopped all work on it, but I haven't really. Just didn't want anyone getting any thoughts about it dying

Semprini · Jan 10, 2012

Hi, all! Im back!

Some ideas to the flag of the dwarves.

I need to know which ones will be the chosen versions of the icons so i can start to make the DDS files..

(sorry for my english...)

Regards

Semprini

malcolm01234 · Jan 10, 2012

Personally, I like the top 2, I already made the player color, but I'll change it a bit for whichever one Little One chooses...

And Little One, how do you post a file?

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