forcedalt
Warlord
Another worthless post , like this one http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=521296 , where i wonder what the little tiny microscopic people inside the computer screen are actually doing when something happens in civ5.
Sometimes the notification says "a handsome prince has married..." , but , i think it could also say "a lovely princess" ,so, its not Maria Teresa personally hooking up , like , she keeps growing her own love harem of former CS governors. She is forcing some relative (cousin, sister, brother, child...) into an arranged marriage , and , this somehow makes a CS cease to exist altogether , and , incontestably , for all time brings the entirety of the city , its people and all its army to total loyalty. Maria Teresa must be the most persuasive person in all worlds to make that work. The large amounts of gold needed to execute this ,probably help to grease some wheels.
You need about 1,500 gold to bring a CS from 0 to +60+ for long enough to keep it allied the needed turns. The cost of the marriage action itself ranges from 1,500-1,700.
the rush cost of the jet fighter unit is 1,190 gold. In the real world the purchase cost of an F-15 Raptor is : $150mil (USD)
Using these figures to calculate a conversion rate ,and assuming the jet unit only represents a single jet ,and , not a whole squadron. A unit of Civ 5 gold is worth roughly $125k Hmmmm, that doesn't sound right ,but , i will keep going with it.
So,the dowry for the marriage is $189 million on top of the $189 million gift given some years earlier to form the alliance. Well that could be enough money to bribe the sovereignty of a small country ,if , it was concentrated into a ruling elite.
One time i played huge map with Austria ,and , went wide ,eating about 20 CS's.
Imagining the lives of the citizens of my empire. Since i consider the marriage cost to be like a dowry , it means : this incredible amount of money was given to one particular person ; the head of state of the CS. I picture it as a shady deal of sorts. A secret envoy from the Austrian diplomatic corp meets with the CS leader and lays out the deal.
The initial gold to raise the influence bar is just for that. The CS leader will : announce the alliance to his people , sing the praises of Austria ,and distribute the gold amongst his people , making damn good and sure they know who it came from. The CS citizens are all N-word rich at Austria's expense. Imported goods flood into the CS to give purchases for the new disposable income. New job openings in shipping and retail create a labor vacuum causing average salaries to skyrocket. "Austria made us all rich" is the general view throughout the five turn period (which could be anywhere from 2-100 years depending on era and pace)
One day the CS president makes an announcement in the town square, the square is packed with citizens ready to hear an important address to the people.
"our alliance with our Austrian friends abroad has brought our people to prosperity and prominence previously unheard of in the great history of our people. Today we usher in a new age of this great alliance. ( the crowd cheers)
"Like many of you , i have a family i raised , loved , and provided for in this great city. My eldest daughter has come of age to marry , and , has found a suitor. Her husband will be young Lord Leopold of the Austrian royal house."
" The Duke has made several diplomatic visits through this region ,and , during those times , he has found love and fellowship amongst our people." "Currently the Duke is on honeymoon in Vienna. " (the president pauses and swallows hard at the thought of the scrumping) " however , he sends his regards ,and , has told me he looks forward to serving as your earl after my retirement this fall." (loud murmurs from the crowd below) "yes, yes , its true , please settle down. Its true. The rumors are true. We are now Austrians." " The treaties are all signed ,and plans to integrate our guilds and military into the Austrian royal services ,and , permanently dissolve the old city government will begin immediately." " Please don't see this as a sudden shift , but as another step in the prosperous path that Austria is walking with us."
A few weeks later : after the duke and his bride came to assume their position as the cities royal presence , a strange ship appeared at the harbor, an odd ship type never seen by these people before. It was a Yacht with a swimming pool on the deck , and a speed boat in the swimming pool , this was the personal ship of the former president , the ship he used to travel to his beach house in the equatorial provinces.
and......yeah , that's probably how the diplo marriage skill works.
Sometimes the notification says "a handsome prince has married..." , but , i think it could also say "a lovely princess" ,so, its not Maria Teresa personally hooking up , like , she keeps growing her own love harem of former CS governors. She is forcing some relative (cousin, sister, brother, child...) into an arranged marriage , and , this somehow makes a CS cease to exist altogether , and , incontestably , for all time brings the entirety of the city , its people and all its army to total loyalty. Maria Teresa must be the most persuasive person in all worlds to make that work. The large amounts of gold needed to execute this ,probably help to grease some wheels.
You need about 1,500 gold to bring a CS from 0 to +60+ for long enough to keep it allied the needed turns. The cost of the marriage action itself ranges from 1,500-1,700.
the rush cost of the jet fighter unit is 1,190 gold. In the real world the purchase cost of an F-15 Raptor is : $150mil (USD)
Using these figures to calculate a conversion rate ,and assuming the jet unit only represents a single jet ,and , not a whole squadron. A unit of Civ 5 gold is worth roughly $125k Hmmmm, that doesn't sound right ,but , i will keep going with it.
So,the dowry for the marriage is $189 million on top of the $189 million gift given some years earlier to form the alliance. Well that could be enough money to bribe the sovereignty of a small country ,if , it was concentrated into a ruling elite.
One time i played huge map with Austria ,and , went wide ,eating about 20 CS's.
Imagining the lives of the citizens of my empire. Since i consider the marriage cost to be like a dowry , it means : this incredible amount of money was given to one particular person ; the head of state of the CS. I picture it as a shady deal of sorts. A secret envoy from the Austrian diplomatic corp meets with the CS leader and lays out the deal.
The initial gold to raise the influence bar is just for that. The CS leader will : announce the alliance to his people , sing the praises of Austria ,and distribute the gold amongst his people , making damn good and sure they know who it came from. The CS citizens are all N-word rich at Austria's expense. Imported goods flood into the CS to give purchases for the new disposable income. New job openings in shipping and retail create a labor vacuum causing average salaries to skyrocket. "Austria made us all rich" is the general view throughout the five turn period (which could be anywhere from 2-100 years depending on era and pace)
One day the CS president makes an announcement in the town square, the square is packed with citizens ready to hear an important address to the people.
"our alliance with our Austrian friends abroad has brought our people to prosperity and prominence previously unheard of in the great history of our people. Today we usher in a new age of this great alliance. ( the crowd cheers)
"Like many of you , i have a family i raised , loved , and provided for in this great city. My eldest daughter has come of age to marry , and , has found a suitor. Her husband will be young Lord Leopold of the Austrian royal house."
" The Duke has made several diplomatic visits through this region ,and , during those times , he has found love and fellowship amongst our people." "Currently the Duke is on honeymoon in Vienna. " (the president pauses and swallows hard at the thought of the scrumping) " however , he sends his regards ,and , has told me he looks forward to serving as your earl after my retirement this fall." (loud murmurs from the crowd below) "yes, yes , its true , please settle down. Its true. The rumors are true. We are now Austrians." " The treaties are all signed ,and plans to integrate our guilds and military into the Austrian royal services ,and , permanently dissolve the old city government will begin immediately." " Please don't see this as a sudden shift , but as another step in the prosperous path that Austria is walking with us."
A few weeks later : after the duke and his bride came to assume their position as the cities royal presence , a strange ship appeared at the harbor, an odd ship type never seen by these people before. It was a Yacht with a swimming pool on the deck , and a speed boat in the swimming pool , this was the personal ship of the former president , the ship he used to travel to his beach house in the equatorial provinces.
and......yeah , that's probably how the diplo marriage skill works.