Romans VS Mongols in real life
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Domen
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I'm willing to back the Mongols.
I say the Romans win... :
... if the Mongols run out of ammunition.
Luckymoose
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You're only half right. The Mongols did come into conflict with post-Fourth Crusade Byzantine remnant states in Anatolia in the middle 1200s.
Cannot agree with you my wise comrade, it's got to be the Spartans, just give them the same weapons (and some training) and watch your US troops being wiped out by the Spartans who were brought up from age 7 to basically do nothing, but fight.
It is pretty hilarious that these Spartans didn't actually won in Thermopylae, didn't build any empire, barely managed to defeat democratic Athens in Peloponez War after 30 years of struggle... To be defeated by THEBES soon. And later by Macedonia. And Rome :d So - called Spartan superiority existed in the small part of small Greek country.
Honestly I cannot imagine better soldiers than these from Mongolian Empire. Jesus Christ, a bunch of horse riders - initially not much bigger than Spartan army - who snowballed into the biggest empire in the entire history. In medieval age with mediocre technology. Conquered major global Chinese technological superpower of 120 000 000 people and governed 30 millions square kilometres. Everything via tent, horse and bow. Impossible to beat.
Honestly I cannot imagine better soldiers than these from Mongolian Empire. Jesus Christ, a bunch of horse riders - initially not much bigger than Spartan army - who snowballed into the biggest empire in the entire history. In medieval age with mediocre technology. Conquered major global Chinese technological superpower of 120 000 000 people and governed 30 millions square kilometres. Everything via tent, horse and bow. Impossible to beat.
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Misico dux Vandalorum
The snowball effect is nothing that amazing, it is quite natural.
And what the Romans did if not snowballing ???
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the SS was dreamed up to be some sort of Spartans to massacre the some sort of Persians that populated the Earth by 1930s and they were like squashed like lemons between them Russkies and the Anglosaxons , including the US Army with ever present artillery and stuff . And am hardly a fan of US Army .
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uhmm , so what ? Is it a German fault that the Greeks could find it almost unpalatable to join the SS voluntering business only because they were like crushed by the Wehrmacht after a credible showing against the Italians ? Your Civil War immediately proved you had enough men with the "Right" spirit ...
Domen
Misico dux Vandalorum
Skanderberg division was a mountain division so they were best in hiding between mountains and in killing Serbian civilians.
Hygro
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The US military uses science.
Traitorfish
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That's true of ever warrior-society in history, especially warrior-aristocracies. The only reason we get so excited about Spartans is because 19th century historians built up the Peloponnesian Wars as a microcosm of all human civilisation. Spartans became the warrior-elite and Athenians became the soldier-citizens, archetypes more than historical realities.
MilesGregarius
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I say the Romans win... :
... if the Mongols run out of ammunition.
The Romans win by dispatching Swiss mercenaries?
MilesGregarius
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Understood, but I don't think it lends to the argument that the Romans themselves were better soldiers than the Mongols.
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Mongol seams to have been trained for war since like age 3 or something like that crazy.
Mongol also seams to have valued meritocracy more than many others during their time.
Basicly a society built for survival, other steep people probably was their equals but then they attacked the large rich empires they showed that large and rich don't have to have good soldiers atleast not compared to the mongols.
Its hard to find anything that did defeat empires like the mongols did.
For Romans their best hope probably lies in some kind of ambush or fighting in closed terrain, or just avoid them altogther.
Mongol also seams to have valued meritocracy more than many others during their time.
Basicly a society built for survival, other steep people probably was their equals but then they attacked the large rich empires they showed that large and rich don't have to have good soldiers atleast not compared to the mongols.
Its hard to find anything that did defeat empires like the mongols did.
For Romans their best hope probably lies in some kind of ambush or fighting in closed terrain, or just avoid them altogther.
Wrymouth3
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