VainApocalypse
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I'm always obsessed with theorycraft, and Venice is now officially my favorite civ, so I want to talk about Venice's strategy.
What social policies, wonders, victory conditions, and religious beliefs do you guys recommend? Here's what I've got:
Victory Condition
It'll be hard to win a diplomatic victory after you've removed most of the city-states from the game.
Domination is also out of the question, because Venice is a trade giant. It'll be trading away the resources from its puppeteering shenanigans in addition to establishing foreign trade routes to maximize profit. Declaring war and taking capitals limit how many civs will trade with you.
Science seems to jive with Venice pretty well, but I'd caution that if you're ahead of everyone else in science, you're just going to be leaking free science to all of your competitors through Venice's extra trade routes. Therefore, science victories maybe harder for Venice than other people.
That leaves culture, and you should be able to manipulate your trade routes to give you the best culture-tourism ratios
Social Policies
Exploration is essential. The buffs to the navy will be necessary for defending your extra traderoutes as well as defending your far away puppets. Treasure fleets will also make Venice very rich.
Finishing the commerce tree will not only increase your income, it'll give you another way to purchase your venetian merchants -- with faith.
I honestly don't know whether liberty or tradition would be preferable. If Liberty hasn't changed any, then Collective Rule and Representation will be useless to Venice, but finishing the tree will give it an early merchant. Is that worth wasting two policies? Tradition doesn't mesh with Venice historically or thematically, but the policies are much more beneficial to the built in one-city-challenge. What do you guy's think?
Going for the cultural victory, aesthetics will benefit you greatly.
I also think Fine Arts and Protectionism will benefit Venice more than most civs. Why? You're puppeteering city-states from dawn 'til dusk; most city states have at least one luxury resource. I anticipate Venice being able to maintain a verrrry high happiness.
Religion
For your pantheon, God of the Sea is a relatively safe bet, because you're bound to be on the coast. Depending on what your surroundings look like, the other tile buffing pantheons are equally as viable.
Founder belief: Church Property. End of discussion.
Follower belief: I'm really open to suggestions here.
Enhancer belief: Reliquary perhaps? Depending on how easy it is to purchase these Venetian merchants, you could be getting quite a lot of faith from this belief, which you could then invest into purchasing more merchants if you've finished the commerce tree.
Wonders
Preferably all of them, but I'd prioritize ones that maximize income, culture and happiness in that order.
What do you guys think? Did I miss anything?
What social policies, wonders, victory conditions, and religious beliefs do you guys recommend? Here's what I've got:
Victory Condition
It'll be hard to win a diplomatic victory after you've removed most of the city-states from the game.
Domination is also out of the question, because Venice is a trade giant. It'll be trading away the resources from its puppeteering shenanigans in addition to establishing foreign trade routes to maximize profit. Declaring war and taking capitals limit how many civs will trade with you.
Science seems to jive with Venice pretty well, but I'd caution that if you're ahead of everyone else in science, you're just going to be leaking free science to all of your competitors through Venice's extra trade routes. Therefore, science victories maybe harder for Venice than other people.
That leaves culture, and you should be able to manipulate your trade routes to give you the best culture-tourism ratios
Social Policies
Exploration is essential. The buffs to the navy will be necessary for defending your extra traderoutes as well as defending your far away puppets. Treasure fleets will also make Venice very rich.
Finishing the commerce tree will not only increase your income, it'll give you another way to purchase your venetian merchants -- with faith.
I honestly don't know whether liberty or tradition would be preferable. If Liberty hasn't changed any, then Collective Rule and Representation will be useless to Venice, but finishing the tree will give it an early merchant. Is that worth wasting two policies? Tradition doesn't mesh with Venice historically or thematically, but the policies are much more beneficial to the built in one-city-challenge. What do you guy's think?
Going for the cultural victory, aesthetics will benefit you greatly.
I also think Fine Arts and Protectionism will benefit Venice more than most civs. Why? You're puppeteering city-states from dawn 'til dusk; most city states have at least one luxury resource. I anticipate Venice being able to maintain a verrrry high happiness.
Religion
For your pantheon, God of the Sea is a relatively safe bet, because you're bound to be on the coast. Depending on what your surroundings look like, the other tile buffing pantheons are equally as viable.
Founder belief: Church Property. End of discussion.
Follower belief: I'm really open to suggestions here.
Enhancer belief: Reliquary perhaps? Depending on how easy it is to purchase these Venetian merchants, you could be getting quite a lot of faith from this belief, which you could then invest into purchasing more merchants if you've finished the commerce tree.
Wonders
Preferably all of them, but I'd prioritize ones that maximize income, culture and happiness in that order.
What do you guys think? Did I miss anything?