killmeplease
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not to say +1 production/culture is so-so in ancient but just laughable in renaissance
I do agree that dual Tradition / Liberty is not specifically for competitive gaming, but it can make for a fun wide game if indeed you get a good source of culture early. I fully agree the path you need is open Tradition -> Liberty up to the Settler -> Finisher Tradition -> Finish Liberty.
I started Liberty planning to grow wide. Self-founded 4 cities and captured a few others.
Opened Patronage and Aesthetics + cultural centres...
Free Museums from Legalism offset the delay to Aesthetics somewhat (it was possible to complete Opera Houses having taken Liberty first).
Don't delay Aqueducts to the Tradition finisher - build them early.
Legalism culture buildings and Tradition finisher's aqueducts and are in your first 4 cities.
Taking Tradition+Liberty is a trade off for one of the other trees - consider if the focussed boosts from Rationalism, Commerce, or Exploration are better than growing both tall + wide.
I'd say Tradition+Liberty is definitely viable, combining tall+wide for 10+ pop outlying cities/puppets in the mid-game.
In the Liberty tree it is OOOOOOh so tempting to say, "Hey, diddle-diddle, straight down the middle", and go for the "-10% cut on future SPolicies " choice ! (3 picks)
In the Liberty tree it is OOOOOOh so tempting to say, "Hey, diddle-diddle, straight down the middle", and go for the "-10% cut on future SPolicies " choice ! (3 picks)
In Tradition, a tough choice; Oligarchy, or Wonder Builder (2 picks) ...
got Raging Barbs ON ??
Liberty-Tradition is great as 3 civs: Poland, Songhai and Siam. Poland obviously because they can fill them out fast enough to reap the benefits from both. Songhai and Siam because you can receive 4 free Mud Pyramid Mosques or Wats if you time it right, both fantastic buildings.